[Report] Alex Pietrangelo suspended 1 game

[D-Money]

1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said:

One game for each player is fair. Everyone seems to be glossing over Kane's cross check to Pietrangelo's face.

Exactly! That was probably more painful than what happened to Draisaitl.

 

It wasn't necessarily as premeditated, but then again...

[Mando27]

1 Game for that is surprising. Oh wait they are playing a Canadian team, makes sense now.

[DS4quality]

NHL fans anytime after any disciplinary hearing

[Pears]

1 hour ago, Mando27 said:

1 Game for that is surprising. Oh wait they are playing a Canadian team, makes sense now.

A Canadian team playing the NHL's darlings. Can anyone really say they're surprised?

[Warhippy]

9 hours ago, D-Money said:

And really, what did Pietrangelo do? He smacked his stick across Draisaitl's chest protector (and arms, but even if it missed the padding, the fact it was across both arms and the chest spread out the impact). It was stupid and reckless, and deserved a suspension because of optics, and how close he was to hitting Leon somewhere that could actually hurt him. But I tend to think Pietrangelo knew exactly where he was hitting him, and could have done far more damage if that was his intention. It looked bad - but the actual effect and intention wasn't really that bad. A game seems pretty fair, IMO.

So because player A makes more money than player Y it averages out?

 

For your reference.  I pulled my gun out.  I shot at him.  Grazed him.  didn't kill or maim him.  I deserve a fine.  It looked bad, was not as bad as it looked.  Still used what is a weapon on someone but it wasn't that bad because I knew exactly where I was shooting him.

 

See how that sounds?

 

9 hours ago, D-Money said:

Nurse's was automatic, so no sense comparing.

 

Makar and Bunting injured the guys. McCann just came back. Cernak might still be out if Tampa had advanced.

 

Draisaitl is fine, and indicated such immediately after. So how is this worse than those two?

 

Nurses was automatic.  1 game in the playoffs when "the whistles get put away" which is interesting given how much actual fighting we see in the playoffs especially towards the end of a game.

 

Makar and Bunting were both FAR more towards or in to the play than APs was.

 

Draisatl was fine?  K.  So what?  Again, AP crossed the entirety of the ice surface after the whistle had blown the play dead.  He then took his stick two handed, over his head and chopped it down across the body of an opposing player.  yet you feel it isn't that bad?

 

Why?  Why are these other plays more egregious or comparable to two hand chopping someone?

 

2 hours ago, D-Money said:

They probably looked at this situation and thought it was easy to wrap it up in a bow by giving Pietrangelo the same suspension as Nurse. But at the same time, I understand why AP didn't necessarily deserve a longer suspension.

Why did he not deserve a longer suspension for using his stick in a two handed over the head chopping motion on the body of another person?

Curious

[Drakrami]

9 hours ago, D-Money said:

Not really. It's kind of juvenile to say 'a game is a game', regardless of the player.

 

A suspension is, in effect, a fine. Pietrangelo makes $47,600 per day. Bunting makes $5,140 per day. Financially, a 1-game suspension for AP is a far larger "fine" than a 3-game suspension for MB. Money is different in the playoffs, but the "cost" for AP's team to be missing their top defenseman(/player?) for a game is very high. It's much more of a hit to a team than losing a 3rd-pairing/depth guy like Rome for 4 games.

 

And really, what did Pietrangelo do? He smacked his stick across Draisaitl's chest protector (and arms, but even if it missed the padding, the fact it was across both arms and the chest spread out the impact). It was stupid and reckless, and deserved a suspension because of optics, and how close he was to hitting Leon somewhere that could actually hurt him. But I tend to think Pietrangelo knew exactly where he was hitting him, and could have done far more damage if that was his intention. It looked bad - but the actual effect and intention wasn't really that bad. A game seems pretty fair, IMO.

Chopping at someone's arm with a hockey stick can break it you know? Ask Teravainen. Stop making lesser of the attack. It is what it is. Shouldn't have happened and he will be suspended. 

[PhillipBlunt]

1 minute ago, Drakrami said:

Chopping at someone's arm with a hockey stick can break it you know? Ask Teravainen. Stop making lesser of the attack. It is what it is. Shouldn't have happened and he will be suspended. 

YEAH! How dare you have an opinion, @D-Money!!!

[canuck73_3]

10 hours ago, D-Money said:

Not really. It's kind of juvenile to say 'a game is a game', regardless of the player.

 

A suspension is, in effect, a fine. Pietrangelo makes $47,600 per day. Bunting makes $5,140 per day. Financially, a 1-game suspension for AP is a far larger "fine" than a 3-game suspension for MB. Money is different in the playoffs, but the "cost" for AP's team to be missing their top defenseman(/player?) for a game is very high. It's much more of a hit to a team than losing a 3rd-pairing/depth guy like Rome for 4 games.

 

And really, what did Pietrangelo do? He smacked his stick across Draisaitl's chest protector (and arms, but even if it missed the padding, the fact it was across both arms and the chest spread out the impact). It was stupid and reckless, and deserved a suspension because of optics, and how close he was to hitting Leon somewhere that could actually hurt him. But I tend to think Pietrangelo knew exactly where he was hitting him, and could have done far more damage if that was his intention. It looked bad - but the actual effect and intention wasn't really that bad. A game seems pretty fair, IMO.

They don't get paid in the post season, so monetarily this does not affect him at all. 

[Gurn]

10 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

They don't get paid in the post season, so monetarily this does not affect him at all. 

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-player-playoff-compensation/

 

The size of the playoff prize pool generally increases every third season. In 2012-13 and 2013-14, the playoff bonus pool was $13 million, or twice the amount set aside in the earlier CBA. Here’s how the pool was divided in 2013:

"Presidents’ Trophy winner — $500,000
First round losers — $2 million ($250,000 each to eight teams)
Second round losers — $2 million ($500,000 each to four teams)
Third round losers — $2.5 million ($1.25 million each to two teams)
Stanley Cup Finalist — $2.25 million
Stanley Cup Champion — $3.75 million

 

s league revenues have increased, the bonus pool has also risen. Here’s how the playoff prize pool has risen over the last decade from $13 million in 2012-13 to $16 million in 2018-19. The most CBA extension, which went into effect for the 2020-21 season has allotted the following amounts for the Playoff Fund:

 

• 2020-21: $20 million
• 2021-22: $20 million
• 2022-23: $21 million
• 2023-24: $22 million
• 2024-25: $23 million
• 2025-25: $24 million

• The NHLPA, with league approval, determines how the pool is distributed among the playoff-participating teams each year.

  Each team votes on the number of shares it should give out. Players who dress for just a few playoff games typically don’t receive a full share, but regulars basically all receive an equal amount. In other words, each player doesn’t necessarily receive an equal share of the pool allocated to their respective team. Often there are some adjustments made based on roster size, healthy scratches, and other unique situations.

•  

• In 2019, the eight playoff teams that lost in the first round received roughly $2.6 million ($325,000 to each of the teams). With each team having a roster of 25 players, each player received approximately $13,000.
• The four playoff teams that lost in the second round received $2.6 million ($650,000 to each of the teams); each of the 25 players received approximately $26,000.
• The two teams that lost in the third round received $1.6 million; each of the 25 players received approximately $65,000.
• The Stanley Cup Finalist received $3 million; each of the 25 players received approximately $117,000.
• Stanley Cup Champions received $4.9 million; each of the 25 players received approximately $200,000.

[canuck73_3]

34 minutes ago, Gurn said:

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-player-playoff-compensation/

 

The size of the playoff prize pool generally increases every third season. In 2012-13 and 2013-14, the playoff bonus pool was $13 million, or twice the amount set aside in the earlier CBA. Here’s how the pool was divided in 2013:

"Presidents’ Trophy winner — $500,000
First round losers — $2 million ($250,000 each to eight teams)
Second round losers — $2 million ($500,000 each to four teams)
Third round losers — $2.5 million ($1.25 million each to two teams)
Stanley Cup Finalist — $2.25 million
Stanley Cup Champion — $3.75 million

 

s league revenues have increased, the bonus pool has also risen. Here’s how the playoff prize pool has risen over the last decade from $13 million in 2012-13 to $16 million in 2018-19. The most CBA extension, which went into effect for the 2020-21 season has allotted the following amounts for the Playoff Fund:

 

• 2020-21: $20 million
• 2021-22: $20 million
• 2022-23: $21 million
• 2023-24: $22 million
• 2024-25: $23 million
• 2025-25: $24 million

• The NHLPA, with league approval, determines how the pool is distributed among the playoff-participating teams each year.

  Each team votes on the number of shares it should give out. Players who dress for just a few playoff games typically don’t receive a full share, but regulars basically all receive an equal amount. In other words, each player doesn’t necessarily receive an equal share of the pool allocated to their respective team. Often there are some adjustments made based on roster size, healthy scratches, and other unique situations.

•  

• In 2019, the eight playoff teams that lost in the first round received roughly $2.6 million ($325,000 to each of the teams). With each team having a roster of 25 players, each player received approximately $13,000.
• The four playoff teams that lost in the second round received $2.6 million ($650,000 to each of the teams); each of the 25 players received approximately $26,000.
• The two teams that lost in the third round received $1.6 million; each of the 25 players received approximately $65,000.
• The Stanley Cup Finalist received $3 million; each of the 25 players received approximately $117,000.
• Stanley Cup Champions received $4.9 million; each of the 25 players received approximately $200,000.

Those are bonuses there is no salary loss for a post season suspension.

[AnthonyG]

19 hours ago, Warhippy said:

Utter bull5h1t

 

Whatever people feel about the Oilers or Pietrangelo or whatever.  The intent was clear.  he crossed an entire rink, he swung his stick 2 handed at the arms of a player on the opposing team.  He got less time for that than Bunting got for his late hit.  Less time than Aaron Rome.  equal time to Nurse who merely caught the instigator suspension.

 

This was absolutely predatory, this was malicious and I don't care what peoples opinions are deserved a MINIMUM of 2 games because this is no deterrent.

Now i would say it would be fair if they rescinded Nurses 1 game and only gave Pietrangelo 1 game. But the fact that Nurse and Pietrangelo’s suspensions are holding the same weight is absolutely wrong. 
Like this isnt minor hockey ffs, Nurse getting a 1 game suspension for a bloody instigator in the last 5 mins is an absolute joke.

[D-Money]

30 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

Those are bonuses there is no salary loss for a post season suspension.

There's a big loss if Vegas loses next game (as I expect they will, trying to contain McD/Drai without their franchise D-man), and are unable to win the next two.

[EdgarM]

 

I am just gonna leave this here........................No further explanation needed. Blunt metioned it afew times already.

[PhillipBlunt]

15 minutes ago, EdgarM said:

 

I am just gonna leave this here........................No further explanation needed. Blunt metioned it afew times already.

And the reaction is.....

[IBatch]

13 hours ago, D-Money said:

Not really. It's kind of juvenile to say 'a game is a game', regardless of the player.

 

A suspension is, in effect, a fine. Pietrangelo makes $47,600 per day. Bunting makes $5,140 per day. Financially, a 1-game suspension for AP is a far larger "fine" than a 3-game suspension for MB. Money is different in the playoffs, but the "cost" for AP's team to be missing their top defenseman(/player?) for a game is very high. It's much more of a hit to a team than losing a 3rd-pairing/depth guy like Rome for 4 games.

 

And really, what did Pietrangelo do? He smacked his stick across Draisaitl's chest protector (and arms, but even if it missed the padding, the fact it was across both arms and the chest spread out the impact). It was stupid and reckless, and deserved a suspension because of optics, and how close he was to hitting Leon somewhere that could actually hurt him. But I tend to think Pietrangelo knew exactly where he was hitting him, and could have done far more damage if that was his intention. It looked bad - but the actual effect and intention wasn't really that bad. A game seems pretty fair, IMO.

Players don't get paid for playoffs though.   Well not really. 

[canuck73_3]

3 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said:

And the reaction is.....

I don’t get how he got away with that to be honest.