Ted Lasso Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 So what’s the next move? If we can now take advantage of another cap strapped team, relieving them of a decent 3C or D (eg. Forbort), what are we sending them back? Some of our surplus 3rd/4th round picks this year? Prospects? 2024/25 picks? If options for a hockey trade (winger for center or D), were held up due to cap, can we move forward on them now? Given how thin the UFA market is, will we try to acquire rights to Soucy or Graves ahead of July 1? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, mll said: Other teams also have players that can be traded there. Niederreiter just went from Nashville to Winnipeg. Is Garland someone they see helping them in the post-season because that's the aim. Also Dubois is asking for about 9M. If a trade materialises whichever teams trades for him are going to have to send players back and likely more than 1 given his ask. Possibly also for Scheifele and Hellebuyck. Their contracts are high enough that teams might not clear enough by sending only 1 player back. Niederreiter is only signed for one more year, and then he is gone. Garland gives them term and a player who will stick around for 3 more years. Sure, they probably take players back for PLD, Scheifele and Hellebuyck. However, they need 23 guys to ice a team, so they will need several guys with term coming back, not just one or two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted June 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: So what’s the next move? If we can now take advantage of another cap strapped team, relieving them of a decent 3C or D (eg. Forbort), what are we sending them back? Some of our surplus 3rd/4th round picks this year? Prospects? 2024/25 picks? If options for a hockey trade (winger for center or D), were held up due to cap, can we move forward on them now? Given how thin the UFA market is, will we try to acquire rights to Soucy or Graves ahead of July 1? I'd do Graves at 5x5. If we can't get Graves, I'd go after Soucy at 3x3. I'd do Forbort for a 3rd or 4th, if not I'd try and move Garland to Winnipeg for Brenden Dillon. I'd go after Luke Schenn again. Tryamkin is also an option in free agency. Erik Cernak is a dream. Andrew Peeke is another. Brett Pesce may be traded. Noah Hanifin, Chris Tanev, Nikita Zadorov from Calgary, who have no cap space.. Lots of options to consider and we now have the cap space to make at least one move and probably two... Edited June 17, 2023 by Elias Pettersson 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Our next best move would probably be to try and trade a wing for a 3rd C in a cap for cap move so that we could spend more cap on D. Maybe we end up even saving cap in the trade 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 @Kenny Powers ^^ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mll Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Niederreiter is only signed for one more year, and then he is gone. Garland gives them term and a player who will stick around for 3 more years. Sure, they probably take players back for PLD, Scheifele and Hellebuyck. However, they need 23 guys to ice a team, so they will need several guys with term coming back, not just one or two... They had the cap to trade for Garland instead of Niederreiter. Size still important especially for the post-season and Garland doesn't even have playoff pedigree to prove that he can overcome his lack of size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: @Kenny Powers ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elias Pettersson Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Junkyard Dog said: Our next best move would probably be to try and trade a wing for a 3rd C in a cap for cap move so that we could spend more cap on D. Maybe we end up even saving cap in the trade Scott Laughton, Colton Sissons for trade. Nick Bjugstad as a UFA. Those would be my 3 top picks for a 3C. Charlie Coyle is intersting too. Boston has a huge cap problem. So they need to trade somebody to open up cap space... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 23 hours ago, 24K PureCool said: I won't be surprised if OEL just retires. The fire has been gone from him a long time ago. He might not even like plating hockey anymore. Man I wonder how much he regrets putting Vancouver on his list. Not more than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 So who replaces him as whipping boy ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, mll said: They had the cap to trade for Garland instead of Niederreiter. Size still important especially for the post-season and Garland doesn't even have playoff pedigree to prove that he can overcome his lack of size. I don't think playoff pedigree is gonna be too important for Winnipeg moving forward if they are forced to trade almost half their team. They are looking right now just to stay relevant and get some assets that will actually be on the roster for the next few years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Our next best move would probably be to try and trade a wing for a 3rd C in a cap for cap move so that we could spend more cap on D. Maybe we end up even saving cap in the trade That would be optimal for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, RU SERIOUS said: So who replaces him as whipping boy ? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Not more than us. He's getting paid 20 million to do nothing, I'm sure he's okay with it. Now he can get paid even more to play in whichever city he wants (granted they're interested). He's the only winner here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, RU SERIOUS said: So who replaces him as whipping boy ? Mill…..nvm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 34 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: $10.5 million to be exact. Did Aquilini really want to pay OEL $10.5 million this season? The total owing to OEL was $29 million over the next 4 years. With the buyout, Aquilini owes him $17,013,336, but it is spread out over the 8-year buyout period. The misconception is that Aquilini has to pay OEL $20 million on a buyout, which is not true. Arizona has to pay almost $2.5 million of that. Also, there is a misconception that Aquilini has to write a big upfront cheque. That is also not true. The money owing to OEL is spread out over the 8-year buyout period. According to CapFriendly, the money owed to OEL is $2,126,667 each year for the next 8 years. This is in comparison to Aquilini having to write a $10.5 million cheque this year to keep him around. This is an actual savings for Aquilini, a huge savings this year. Yes, we will be replacing OEL on teh roster so Aquilini has to pay that contract, however the goal is to make the playoffs so Aquilini can recoup that money with playoff money and maybe a Stanley Cup too... But doesn't OEL need to be replaced? I assume a top 4 LHD will be at least $4M per year for the next 4 years. That means $16M plus the $17M owed to OEL... $33M out of Aquilini’s pocket instead of $29M. So $4M extra cost overall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 23 hours ago, mordekai said: Actually according to Drance article today.. to build for long term he actually said buyout oel. I don't agree usually with Drance but in this case if Canucks take on a bad contract for next two years and say trade up their 11th pick to 5th? that would make a lot of sense. With 7mil cap savings this year and cap expecting to rise next year 2-3mil. Without Myers and OEL, they are looking at 13mil of cap space to weaponized while building for the future. They just can't go out and sign a few 28year old 6x6. You lost me A more pathetic excuse for a hockey "journalist" I have not seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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