BoKnows53 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 There have been so many top prospects like Zach hamill and Zach boychuk, who look like guarantees to play in the NHL. But it's been years since they were drafted and they still are in the AHL. If one of our prospects can help us in any way each year I'll be happy with our drafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman60 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 how anyone can say they are happy with gillis drafting is amazing. He has been here 4 years. Chris tanev who was signed out of college i believe is the only player in 4 years to make this team since gillis has been here and he just cracked it. Drafting has been horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edler's Mind Tricks Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Avelanch I must have missed part1, maybe so sorry bout that, just trying to add to the conversation in a positive manner, as far as Grenier goes maybe try looking at the "in the system" it is under the heading "ROSTER" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yeah beautiful post, thanx heaps! Wish Sauve was higher on the list, he is the most physically capable to play in the NHL of any of our prospects. I wonder, would love Deniro or Dasein's opinion on this; should be looking drafting more to physical attributes after the 2knd round? It seems to me there is an asterisk attached to almost all our prospects. Hodgson too slow, Schroeder too small, Connauton weak defensively, McNally too young, but each had a compelling talent. Players like Lucic slip a little below the radar on talent at a draft, then dominate physically... Players like Malhotra have come back to be serviceable players based on size & athleticism, Burrows and Hansen made it in the first place aginst expectation. When the Oiler's made the finals they were full of big, fast young players nobody had heard of. The point, they were drafting athletic ability and crating lines that could both beat you up in the corners & beat you to the puck. Are we missing opportunity by not prioritizing athletic ability? edit, and funny thing > is that not exactly a corner turned with Kassian? Will it reflect more in our drafting??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TmanVan Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I think the biggest suprises with our drafting under MG will be the later round picks. I can see Alex Friesen in the role of a young Matt Cooke, Joe Cannata as a late rounder putting up college numbers the same as or better than Cory Schneiders could turn out to be one heck of steal, Frankie Corrado getting a vote as top ohl defenseman, and third best defensive defenseman are good signs for a late pick, and Patrick Mcnallys offensive numbers as a rookie blueliner are amazing for college hockey, for all the people drooling over justin schultz give this kid 3 more years. I can see all of them making the team Kevin Bieksa style, after about 4 years in the AHL. The only questions I have with MG's drafting are his first round selections. Kyle Palmieri, Marcus Johansson, Tim Erixon, even Jordan Caron are looking pretty good right now compared to Schroeder. Emerson Etem, Charlie Coyle, or Justin Faulk sure would have made the future look nice instead of trading for Ballard. And everybody seems to have a man crush on Niklas Jensen but you can't argue with Brandon Saad's or Ty Ratties numbers... but hey, Gm's dont pick with hindsight so what do I know right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I really think Corrado will be a steal for us in a few years down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Sorry ALEXANDER GRENIER, you knew who i meant i am sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Yeah beautiful post, thanx heaps! Wish Sauve was higher on the list, he is the most physically capable to play in the NHL of any of our prospects. I wonder, would love Deniro or Dasein's opinion on this; should be looking drafting more to physical attributes after the 2knd round? It seems to me there is an asterisk attached to almost all our prospects. Hodgson too slow, Schroeder too small, Connauton weak defensively, McNally too young, but each had a compelling talent. Players like Lucic slip a little below the radar on talent at a draft, then dominate physically... Players like Malhotra have come back to be serviceable players based on size & athleticism, Burrows and Hansen made it in the first place aginst expectation. When the Oiler's made the finals they were full of big, fast young players nobody had heard of. The point, they were drafting athletic ability and crating lines that could both beat you up in the corners & beat you to the puck. Are we missing opportunity by not prioritizing athletic ability? edit, and funny thing > is that not exactly a corner turned with Kassian? Will it reflect more in our drafting??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Inconsistent list. The top 1-5 prospects indicated that the rankings were based on NHL readiness. The 6-10 and so fourth, are now based on potential. Should have one or the other. Now it's a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I really think Corrado will be a steal for us in a few years down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I have high hopes for Gragnani. You can't simply judge him based on the few games and low minutes he spent on a new team after the deadline. It takes time to adapt to a new team. However, with 3 points in the last 4 games, he showed signs of being a quick learner (offensively, anyways). Contrast that with Ballard, who has 3 points in his last 19 games. People say he's finished with his development, but he spent a portion of his development years playing forward, and is still learning the nuances of a defenseman's game. Actually, his situation reminds me a lot of Mark Streit. D/F who took a while to break into the NHL, primarily thought of as a PP specialist, with obvious offensive skills, but needing work on the defensive side. Montreal gave up on Streit, and he went on to prove that he was a bonafide #2 defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Forget about Gragnani, the guy is going to be a career AHLer. The fact that Gillis asked for him to try and make the trade look more even was kind of pointless. I would rather build up Connauton into all that he can be, instead of wasting minutes on a guy AV used to coach and that he thinks can be an all star. No more fringe defencemen please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Whats with this Thomas Wilson hype all of a sudden, i don`t get it, just because hes a tough means we will use a 1st round pick on him, whats the low down on this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Heyman Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Whats with this Thomas Wilson hype all of a sudden, i don`t get it, just because hes a tough means we will use a 1st round pick on him, whats the low down on this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Whats with this Thomas Wilson hype all of a sudden, i don`t get it, just because hes a tough means we will use a 1st round pick on him, whats the low down on this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 60 points in 63 games is better than 33 in 73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion Phaneuf Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Gragnani, but from how AV used him, he will be a bust in Vancouver. I hope we trade the guy before we ruin his career (looked good in Buffalo). He isn't a 5th/6th guy , he needs ice-time in the top 4 to be effective (Chris Campoli...). I don't think Connauton will get a chance in Vancouver if we get a NHL defencemen from the goalie trade. Tanev would take that 6th spot. Connauton will have a hard time cracking the lineup unless he really outshines Tanev (no point in having him play as a 7th/8th , kills development/potential). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRow Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Connauton needs another year in AHL. Gragnani should be on our PP next year though. I thought he was underrated last year and would like to see more of him in the right situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows53 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Dumba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Heres the thing, we don't know how Counnauton will do in the NHL. He might equally a liablity just liek Gragnani, but as a few posters said and who watched him play during last years pre season, he looked good, in the game I watched, which was Vancouver vs Anahiem, and Anahiem dressed their full line up, Connauton was one of our best defencemens, on top of that, Counnauton is much more tougher then Gragnani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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