Olli Juolevi | #48 | D

[gttxc]

2 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said:

Didn't Juolevi have knee surgery in his draft -1 year as well?

 

If so, is the knee that's currently injured the same one?

You are correct!

 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/scouts-like-juolevi-chychrun-nhl-draft/sn-amp/

 

Hopefully it's not the same knee...

[Dungass]

Listening to a podcast on sports net with a reporter who covers the Comets, Ben Birnell, I think, and he said Olli was getting an MRI today in the city.  So we should know something, hopefully, by the end of the week.

[mpass1]

1 hour ago, gttxc said:

You are correct!

 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/scouts-like-juolevi-chychrun-nhl-draft/sn-amp/

 

Hopefully it's not the same knee...

Funny how they mention Chychrun in that article and he's been as messed up or even a little more messed up with injuries than Juolevi since the draft

[A Skylit Drive]

25 minutes ago, mpass1 said:

Funny how they mention Chychrun in that article and he's been as messed up or even a little more messed up with injuries than Juolevi since the draft

Detroit sure knew what there were doing when they traded the #16 away with Datsyuk for that Dman  Filip Hronek and Dennis Cholowski

[mpass1]

12 minutes ago, A Skylit Drive said:

Detroit sure knew what there were doing when they traded the #16 away with Datsyuk for that Dman  Filip Hronek and Dennis Cholowski

Detroit rarely ever make a miss....Hopefully they missed out on taking Quinn Hughes though!!!!

[ruilin96]

31 minutes ago, mpass1 said:

Detroit rarely ever make a miss....Hopefully they missed out on taking Quinn Hughes though!!!!

Detroit was going to draft Hughes even after the first 4 selections. Going into the draft, Ken Holland was quoted to want to draft a puck moving offensive defence man. With Hughes playing in Michigan, they saw him at their backyard and was ready to pick him at 6. JB really wanted Hughes and was revealed that JB was trying to jump up to 4th or 5th spot to sneak ahead of Detroit to get him. Then there comes the Coyotes, drafted Haytton at 5, which throws a hughe curveball to the draft. Detroit must have had Zadina ranked higher than Hughes and they didn’t pass up on the opportunity and drafted Zadina instead. It worked out perfectly for JB and the management staff because Hughes fell right to our laps without having to lose any assets to get him.

 

To me, I think Coyotes would of been smarter if they traded down to 7th swapping picks with the Canucks and gain extra assets. Chances are, they still would of gotten Haytton. Because, I don’t think Detroit has Haytton ahead of Zadina on their board. I am not going to make fun of the Coyotes for picking Haytton at 5 like most others, because most ppl made fun of us taking EP at 5 just the year earlier. If Haytton turns out to be a Patrice Bergeron type of player (which his best case projects to be), Coyotes would feel pretty good about this pick. I am just glad the Canucks got Hughes out of all this because I don’t think we have ever had a defenceman at Hughes caliber ever in franchise history.

[Kanukfanatic]

14 minutes ago, The 5th Line said:

 Don't worry our medical team is top notch

Your sarcasm aside. What are your qualifications to question actual Medical Doctors and sports therapists?  Your online criticism? Any other qualifications? lol

 

No offence but your opinion on medical matters means less than nothing.

 

...ok pal.  

[Wanless]

25 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said:

Your sarcasm aside. What are your qualifications to question actual Medical Doctors and sports therapists?  Your online criticism? Any other qualifications? lol

 

No offence but your opinion on medical matters means less than nothing.

 

...ok pal.  

He could be serious

 

They have had a lot of practice this year...!

[Noble 6]

5 hours ago, gttxc said:

You are correct!

 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/scouts-like-juolevi-chychrun-nhl-draft/sn-amp/

 

Hopefully it's not the same knee...

 

Thanks for finding this.

 

Wow, Juolevi says he missed 6 months due to his knee surgery before coming over to the OHL (draft -1 year) and that he wasn't 100% at the start of his first OHL season. That's significant time missed in a fairly important period for physical growth. Adding that to his back surgery and another knee surgery and I don't like what I see in terms of health. Not that it's his fault, I just don't think there's any way you can look past that when assessing his long term potential. I'm not sure if having surgery on one knee twice or both knees once is better for that. 

 

[MoneypuckOverlord]

59 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said:

 

Thanks for finding this.

 

Wow, Juolevi says he missed 6 months due to his knee surgery before coming over to the OHL (draft -1 year) and that he wasn't 100% at the start of his first OHL season. That's significant time missed in a fairly important period for physical growth. Adding that to his back surgery and another knee surgery and I don't like what I see in terms of health. Not that it's his fault, I just don't think there's any way you can look past that when assessing his long term potential. I'm not sure if having surgery on one knee twice or both knees once is better for that. 

 

the back is totally his fault. 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

 

 

[CRAZY_4_NAZZY]

 

[Noble 6]

3 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

 

 

That's less severe than what I thought it would be, so that's good. 

[Borvat]

On 12/1/2018 at 1:57 PM, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

 

Have they said if its the same knee he previously had surgically repaired?

Edited December 3, 2018 by Borvat

[MoneypuckOverlord]

7 minutes ago, Borvat said:

Have they said if its the same knee he previously had surgically repaired?

either way I am expect him to be back in action by dec 20.

[73 Percent]

15 minutes ago, The 5th Line said:

The lack of concern is this thread when it comes to Olli's injuries is quite telling.  Clearly he is not progressing the way many had hoped.......

Why would we be concerned about him missing 2-3 weeks? 7 games isnt the end of the world. Injuries happen. I'm sure most people around these parts understand that. OJ has impressed even his biggest doubters this year (myself included). 

 

13 pts in 18 games is very impressive for his ahl rookie season. Especially when you consider how bad Utica is this year. 

Edited December 3, 2018 by 73 Percent

[73 Percent]

8 minutes ago, The 5th Line said:

There was hardly any concern shown before we knew it would only be 3 weeks and there was a lack of relief shown when we heard to good news that he would only miss 3 weeks.  Hughes, Boeser, Petterson etc would gain a lot more attention, that's all I'm saying.

 

 

Or maybe you're trying to create some drama where there is none. We were told last weekend it was minor and there were still concerns around these parts.

 

 

OMG OUR OTHERWISE IMPRESSIVE 2ND BEST DEFENSIVE PROSPECT WILL MISS AROUND 10 GAMES! MIGHT AS WELL FOLD THE FRANCHISE. SHUT DOWN CDC AND CAN BENNING.  SHOULD HAVE TAKEN SERGACHEV. TRADE HIM FOR A 5TH WHILE HE'S STILL WORTH THAT.

 

 

better?

[73 Percent]

4 minutes ago, The 5th Line said:

No I'm pretty sure people are just disappointed with his progression.  Apparently he's still behind Brisebois, Sautner and Chatfield on the pecking order so we weren't planning on seeing him any time soon anyways and that was before the injury.  Point totals are good and that's a good sign but I thought we weren't supposed to just look at stats?  He has 5 even strength points in 18 games, apparently he's still soft and frigid, turns the puck over at bad times and is a -12

 

Our other top prospects would garner a lot more attention during injury news like that, not sure how you would dispute that.  

 

 

Those who are disappointed with his progression can speak for themselves unless there was some election held where you became their leader. That's if there is many... all I see in here is you to be honest.

 

As for the pecking order business you are off in the gaudette thread claiming he should be honing his skills In the AHL rather than "5 mins a game" (your words not mine) but in OJs case its a negative that he's not first call up to sit in the box or play 5 mins. Double standard much.

 

My favorite part about your post though is when you say we aren't supposed to look at stats, then proceed to list a bunch of stats to help your case. Admittedly I don't watch comet games so I'm just tracking and relying on updates from those who do. I'm no expert like yourself but at least I don't hope for prospects to fail like you appear to.

 

And I will dispute that CDC doesn't freak the &^@# out over minor injuries to our prospects. It's the middle of another bad season and most of the kneejerk fans have jumped ship leaving mostly regulars around here. And unlike past years we have lots of distraction in Vancouver with our own injuries to EP and Brock. All our eggs aren't in one basket like before either. If Bo was hurt in his draft+1 it was a big deal because that's all we had. If OJ doesn't turn out to be a top 4 dman it's not the emd of the world. We have some depth in the pipeline where we didn't before. But we do now and he is progressing nicely so we need not worry. 

 

 

But you still can if you'd like. Worry your hairline away bruh.

[HorvatToBaertschi]

The guy teared up a peo league last year, and is incredible in the AHL this year. Who said his progression isnt up to par? Just because Tkachuk and Sergachev and Chychrun made the NHL already doesnt take anything away from Olli. We learned our lesson with Jv and McCann, calgary arizona took chances and it payed off, and Sergachev is sheltered on an elite team, and is having quite the sophomore slump. Nobody should be worried about OJ.