Ossi Vaananen Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Expected. I know there was talk around here about taking on his contract for picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Now Benning can sign him for a bargain basement 1 year 1 mill to bridge another year to give Demko another year in the AHL Markstrom plays best when playing a boat load of games. Niemi seems lately to play better with fewer games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Nil is going to be desperate to sign a UFA D now... this helps a little bit freeing up 3 mil in cap this year, but it costs them 1.5 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ossi Vaananen said: Expected. I know there was talk around here about taking on his contract for picks. In before people bash Benning for being an idiot for not taking on the contract for picks...perhaps the picks are more valuable to Dallas than the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Just now, S'all Good Man said: Nil is going to be desperate to sign a UFA D now... this helps a little bit freeing up 3 mil in cap this year, but it costs them 1.5 next year. I wonder if Gaglardi still has that grudge against Aquillini over the ownership fiasco. Could he possibly let his personal BS affect the betterment of his team? I dunno, but it seems like Dallas does everything in it's power to not make a deal with the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Makes sense if they can fit the cap space. No reason to give up assets if you have cash to spare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, VanGnome said: I wonder if Gaglardi still has that grudge against Aquillini over the ownership fiasco. Could he possibly let his personal BS affect the betterment of his team? I dunno, but it seems like Dallas does everything in it's power to not make a deal with the Canucks. seems like it for sure. Heiskanen was a great pick for sure, but he's not going to be part of their current window unless Benn ages like wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, Wilbur said: In before people bash Benning for being an idiot for not taking on the contract for picks...perhaps the picks are more valuable to Dallas than the money? The only teams that give up assets to dump contracts are the ones in a deep cap crunch. The Stars were not, they have plenty of cap space having no one really important to sign. I doubt Nill even considered giving up picks with the Niemi buyout being fairly cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Toews said: The only teams that give up assets to dump contracts are the ones in a deep cap crunch. The Stars were not, they have plenty of cap space having no one really important to sign. I doubt Nill even considered giving up picks with the Niemi buyout being fairly cheap. what about the fact that they really need another top 4 D? If they crap out in free agency its going to be another tough year for them, Hitchcock is going to run them hard. It will be interesting to see how Benn reacts to Hitchcock, SN has an interesting story on his battles with Hull over team style (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/brett-hull-like-play-offence-ken-hitchcock/) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I'd be willing to take him as a backup for a reasonable price and short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 34 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said: what about the fact that they really need another top 4 D? If they crap out in free agency its going to be another tough year for them, Hitchcock is going to run them hard. It will be interesting to see how Benn reacts to Hitchcock, SN has an interesting story on his battles with Hull over team style (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/brett-hull-like-play-offence-ken-hitchcock/) I should have clarified that I meant that they do not have to give out any big time raises. Their core is locked up long term and they have cap space. It was wishful thinking that they would trade picks to get out of a 1.5Mx2 buyout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Obviously!....you don't trade a 3rd overall or even a 29th overall just to get rid of a 1 year contract. That option is only feasible for Clarkson, Bolland, Horton type of contracts. Cap is going up 2M and probably at least another 2M$ the year after. Stars will be just fine with the 1.5M cap penalty over two years, they won't even break a sweat trying to get under the cap for those 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, Toews said: I should have clarified that I meant that they do not have to give out any big time raises. Their core is locked up long term and they have cap space. It was wishful thinking that they would trade picks to get out of a 1.5Mx2 buyout. oh for sure. Lehtonen would have been more value on that front but even still not that much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, -AJ- said: I'd be willing to take him as a backup for a reasonable price and short term. I'd rather take Elliott for the same, reasonable price and short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Rather have traded for Lehtonen anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 We took on salary as the principal motor behind getting Ehrhoff. It worked once. We hemorrhaged on varying types and levels of contracts with Lou, David Booth, Ballard, Tortorella, AV, just ate a year on Willie's deal. I would not be surprised if Aquilini has noticed that just throwing money at shat, isn't always going to solve everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Point being ^ we may not just run to the bank and pull out $10 mill like we once did. Just to get a draft pick or player. Been burned too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 well now he will be cheap if benning wants him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 4 hours ago, VanGnome said: I wonder if Gaglardi still has that grudge against Aquillini over the ownership fiasco. Could he possibly let his personal BS affect the betterment of his team? I dunno, but it seems like Dallas does everything in it's power to not make a deal with the Canucks. I think so and do not blame him one bit as I think he got screwed over pretty bad in the deal. That said Gaglardi is the one with the cup win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: We took on salary as the principal motor behind getting Ehrhoff. It worked once. We hemorrhaged on varying types and levels of contracts with Lou, David Booth, Ballard, Tortorella, AV, just ate a year on Willie's deal. I would not be surprised if Aquilini has noticed that just throwing money at shat, isn't always going to solve everything? IMO that's the cost of doing business in the NHL. Nearly every team in the NHL has a similar list of poor returns on investment. The Canucks are one of the larger markets in the NHL and Aquilini made a killing when the team was a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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