PhillipBlunt Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 So no solitary confinement.......ok. Bring back capital punishment. Scum like Olson, Bernardo, Pickton and numerous others shouldn't have breathed a single breath after they were convicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 13 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: Typical Liberals soft on crime and they don't want to punish dangerous criminals. Same thing under Chretien, except under Chretien they also received hustler magazines on the tax payers dime. Same old liberals. I get thats the CPC narrative that must always be trotted out, but really at this point can we try to look at some actual evidence? Harpers 'tough on crime' approach was a failure, it didn't do any objective good at all. How about some factual debate instead of this line, it doesn't do any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: I get thats the CPC narrative that must always be trotted out, but really at this point can we try to look at some actual evidence? Harpers 'tough on crime' approach was a failure, it didn't do any objective good at all. How about some factual debate instead of this line, it doesn't do any good. Looking at evidence would force them to acknowledge that they were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Down by the River said: Looking at evidence would force them to acknowledge that they were wrong. its a useless debate. It hasn't led to anything better. The focus should be citizens experiencing less crime, not some old line about who's softer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Put em in GP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Down by the River said: Looking at evidence would force them to acknowledge that they were wrong. I wish their party leader would speak up on this but...he's in India playing dress up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 57 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I wish their party leader would speak up on this but...he's in India playing dress up Wow Andy Pandy's wife does not seem too happy to find herself in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Toews said: Wow Andy Pandy's wife does not seem too happy to find herself in India. Amy Schumer....err Scheer does no approve of your comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Toews said: Wow Andy Pandy's wife does not seem too happy to find herself in India. thats a 'wife look' I'd hate to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 As an introvert I can't support this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 7 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: So no solitary confinement.......ok. Bring back capital punishment. Scum like Olson, Bernardo, Pickton and numerous others shouldn't have breathed a single breath after they were convicted. meh, as I've said before, putting those individuals in the general prison population (eg., taking the no solitary confinement to it's logical conclusion) will solve the problem soon enough. No need for anyone to soil their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: meh, as I've said before, putting those individuals in the general prison population (eg., taking the no solitary confinement to it's logical conclusion) will solve the problem soon enough. No need for anyone to soil their hands. Except the prisoners tearing them apart. Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Toews said: Wow Andy Pandy's wife does not seem too happy to find herself in India. She's dying for some Swiss Chalet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboarder Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I disagreed with Liberals bill for a few following reasons: a dangerous offenders should pay the crime as they committed the crimes and if they didn't like the prison, it's a consequences that they must face. It is giving criminals more rights over victims which I am sick of seeing nowadays. It is like, you can commit a crime then get away with it with programs but the crime act has been done for the victims. Second reason, it also cost money to the program that will not have some success to it as criminals might like the new prison environment and might reoffend than if solitary confinement due to human interactions and they wouldn't be able to get that when they get out of prison as many people will avoid that dangerous ex-criminals that is liability to recommit a crime. Once they get lonely in the society, they would do anything to maintain the contact within the prison with the new program that the Liberals are proposing. I wouldn't be surprised if this program will not work 10 years from now as increased crimes will be once criminals get out of prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 23 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: I'm not necessarily saying long term. It should be there as a deterrent and a punishment. It's not an effective deterrent and actually puts staff and other prisoners at more risk. There are many ways to restrict and punish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 14 hours ago, coolboarder said: I disagreed with Liberals bill for a few following reasons: a dangerous offenders should pay the crime as they committed the crimes and if they didn't like the prison, it's a consequences that they must face. It is giving criminals more rights over victims which I am sick of seeing nowadays. It is like, you can commit a crime then get away with it with programs but the crime act has been done for the victims. Second reason, it also cost money to the program that will not have some success to it as criminals might like the new prison environment and might reoffend than if solitary confinement due to human interactions and they wouldn't be able to get that when they get out of prison as many people will avoid that dangerous ex-criminals that is liability to recommit a crime. Once they get lonely in the society, they would do anything to maintain the contact within the prison with the new program that the Liberals are proposing. I wouldn't be surprised if this program will not work 10 years from now as increased crimes will be once criminals get out of prison. Your post goes completely against all of the statistics. Your feelings mean nothing in front of data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/17/2018 at 7:59 AM, PhillipBlunt said: So no solitary confinement.......ok. Bring back capital punishment. Scum like Olson, Bernardo, Pickton and numerous others shouldn't have breathed a single breath after they were convicted. Should ship them to Russia, I watched a doc. on their prison system and yikes, don't get in trouble over there. I know there's other prisons that are deadlier like in El Salvador but in Russia it's something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/17/2018 at 8:26 AM, Warhippy said: I wish their party leader would speak up on this but...he's in India playing dress up He's married to Amy Shumer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: Should ship them to Russia, I watched a doc. on their prison system and yikes, don't get in trouble over there. I know there's other prisons that are deadlier like in El Salvador but in Russia it's something else. Saw the same documentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Solitary confinement is what kept me sane in prison. The amount of idiocy you have to deal with in a medium security facility is extremely agonizing and gruelling to anyone with even a pea sized brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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