Toyotasfan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Elite company: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckistani Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 57 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said: This is the key. Next year teams will be cueing in on him, scouting him, would have played him before etc. If EP can still produce like he has been through next year then I think we can start having contract discussions. Until then this conversation is rather pointless. His production could very well decline in the second half of the season. Look at Matthew Barzal. Last year he wins the Calder with 22G, and 85 points over the season. This year he has 4G in 31 games (27points). He is on pace for 10 goals! Tavares is gone so he is getting the opposing top pair D and defensive FWD line. IF Pettersson can perform in those conditions then the 10M/season conversation can start. well unlike Barzal and him facing tougher minutes, EP is facing those tough minutes already. That being said, i expect him to be 80-90% as productive as this year, when the vaunted 'sophomore slump' hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, RogersTowell said: Cap management is going to start to be a big part of the puzzle for management. There are a lot of contracts to be negotiated over the next three years: Leivo, Virtanen, Motte, Boeser, Gaudette, Goldobin, Edler, Hutton, Tanev, Stecher and more that might be let go. We currently sit with between 7 and 8 million in cap space and most of these guys will want, and some of them deserve, a raise. Contracts like Eriksson, Beagle and Roussel start to be problems during this period. With both Boeser and Pettersson being core players who make players around them better, it's going to be critical to keep some cap space for them. Yes and no. Those 3 take up less than 15% of next year’s projected 82.5m cap. Who knows what it’ll be the year after that. Edler will likely be signed to a similar priced contract I should think. Maybe a little more, for lesser term. Leivo I don’t necessarily see as a long term player here but we’ll see. I see what you’re saying, but unless Benning gets drastically worked over on Boeser’s contract, we should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 million dollars is the new 9 million . that said Mcdavid's contract was negotiated after a completion of a art ross win, so hopefully we don't have to go pass 9 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I'm not too worried about cap problems at the moment. Cap Friendly has us at a projected 31.1M in cap space next season and that does not include the raise to possibily 83M upper limit giving us closer to 35M in cap space. Even if 1/5 of that goes to Brock. Granlund, Leivo, Goldobin, Motte, and Demko are not going to be eating up the remaining 27-28M themselves, realistically Hutton (if kept) is the only other player looking at a significant raise. Edler if kept likely wouldn't have much of (if any) raise. I even less likely see both of Hutton and Edler being kept but I could be wrong about that. We even have room to add a high-calibre UFA if needed and not put too much of a dent into our cap situation. We should have no reason to worry about signing Brock or Elias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 RFA status doesn't mean what it used to, I could see him getting Tavares dollars. 8x11mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I don’t care how much he gets as long as he keeps playing like this. Pay your home grown stars and don’t sign any overpriced free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro17 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 9:46 AM, Toyotasfan said: Elite company: HOLY! This is the only time I have ever been glad that we didn't get 1st overall in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sandro17 said: HOLY! This is the only time I have ever been glad that we didn't get 1st overall in the draft. I'd be curious what those other players' plus/minus was after 30 games? Petey is a very strong D minded player too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro17 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Alflives said: I'd be curious what those other players' plus/minus was after 30 games? Petey is a very strong D minded player too. Mcdavid after 45 games was -1 Malkin after 78 was +2 Crosby after 81 was +1 Pettersson after 30 is +11 What that says is up to interpretation. But I'm impressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Sandro17 said: Mcdavid after 45 games was -1 Malkin after 78 was +2 Crosby after 81 was +1 Pettersson after 30 is +11 What that says is up to you. But I'm impressed Petey does get a lot of ozone starts, but he's still a smart D side of the puck player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Sandro17 said: HOLY! This is the only time I have ever been glad that we didn't get 1st overall in the draft. On 12/17/2018 at 9:46 AM, Toyotasfan said: Elite company: With the exception of Yashin, that’s generational elite talent company EP40’s in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro17 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, SergioMomesso said: With the exception of Yashin, that’s generational elite talent company EP40’s in. Yashin was actually PPG during his rookie year before he became entitled and got traded. So he was still Elite :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Jumping the gun a little bit on this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beni Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I think someone is really taking advantage of this new Legalization . Cap is not going to increase, there is 5 teams still under the cap floor. Wait until the new CBA comes through and there is a potential lockout. People really think some of the owners want to spend that much money to keep up with the increases? I really have a hard time believing they want to continue this trend but that's just my 2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_T83 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 1:55 AM, Ryzen said: It's possible when in 3 years Elias Petterson is do for his contract it could be worth anywhere from $100Million-$150Million over 8 Years! I personally believe he is the next Gretzky of the NHL... Give him a couple more years and beef up another 10pds and experience with more skilled players. I'm calling it now... What do you think? I highly doubt it. Let's assume he continues his pace -- gets 40 goals + 40 assists this season in ~70+ games. Then let's assume he's top 5 in scoring for the next 2 years in a row. He's still probably only getting Conor McDavid money, at around $12 million AAV. That puts him at approximately $100M over 8 years -- nowhere near $150M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 If he stays on a PPG pace, he will be a $10-11 million player. Let’s not go crazy and assume he will be the highest paid player in the league. He is good, but has a long way to go before you can say he will be a top 5 guy in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/16/2018 at 10:55 PM, Ryzen said: It's possible when in 3 years Elias Petterson is do for his contract it could be worth anywhere from $100Million-$150Million over 8 Years! I personally believe he is the next Gretzky of the NHL... Give him a couple more years and beef up another 10pds and experience with more skilled players. I'm calling it now... What do you think? You're calling what now? EP making $150M for 8 years?, Or him becoming like Gretzky after the hockey world has already predicted that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I really think that franchise players are overpaid. Generational is over-used. IMHO there are only a few generational players in recent memory: Gretzky and Mario. they scored close to double what anyone else was scoring - and that is what I would call generational. Crosby is a franchise elite player - but he is no Mario. imho he isn't generational. This generation doesn't have an obvious player who takes over the game like those 2 did. not all the time. Maybe it was the concussions that hindered Crosby, I don't know. but in any case Crosby isn't in the same league as Gretz or Mario. McDavid isn't generational either. In the middle of a pack of really awesome players - but these players aren't scoring 50 points more than the next group. If Mario was playing now it would be obvious. EP deserves a good contract, as a solid franchise elite player. but he isn't generational. Maybe he will turn into a player like that, but I am doubtful. I guess that paying players at the top of their class is expected, so whatever - I assume he will get a ton of $. I just hope it is reasonable and that he doesn't hurt the franchise by wanting too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Are we talking about the same player who scored 137 points when he was 18 and wore 99? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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