rekker Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Warhippy said: With all due respect, have you seen the moves Holland made over the last 8 years? Holland....is not Holland. it's not like he's trading from a place where his assets played for years in the vaunted Detroit system of old Just horsing around and I agree. Check my comments in the Oilers hire Holland thread. Hollands overrated. More a play on JB's lack of experience vs Holland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, Warhippy said: With all due respect, have you seen the moves Holland made over the last 8 years? Holland....is not Holland. it's not like he's trading from a place where his assets played for years in the vaunted Detroit system of old 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks for Tatar is impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 NO LUCIC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, sampy said: 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks for Tatar is impressive. Meh. From the same GM that gave up Forsberg for Erat. McPhee shouldn't trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 minute ago, rekker said: Meh. From the same GM that gave up Forsberg for Erat. McPhee shouldn't trade. Hahaha true.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbriggs Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Kobayashi Maru said: I’d do that in a heartbeat and the trade Eriksson with a pick to Arizona for future considerations. Getter done Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastDave Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 It is highly unlikely Seattle will want to pick up Lucic or Eriksson in the expansion draft. So, it is probably okay for them to waive their NMC to help facilitate a trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, WestCoastDave said: It is highly unlikely Seattle will want to pick up Lucic or Eriksson in the expansion draft. So, it is probably okay for them to waive their NMC to help facilitate a trade. Loui doesn’t have a NMC. Only Lucic has that. That’s the stumbling block in any trade. Milan must be protected. Loui doesn’t. That and Lucic’s extra year. These two reasons, plus Loui can still help a team, and Milan can’t, make for why the Oilers have to add a lot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, WestCoastDave said: It is highly unlikely Seattle will want to pick up Lucic or Eriksson in the expansion draft. So, it is probably okay for them to waive their NMC to help facilitate a trade. This. There's no way in hell either player gets taken in an expansion draft. So if Lucic really wants to come home, you'd think he'd understand and play ball. Eriksson only has a modified NTC starting in July so he doesn't need to be protected. If I'm Holland and I'm really considering attaching an asset like Puljujarvi to a Lucic deal and taking back Eriksson, I'm not going to do it before Eriksson's bonus is paid and I'd also want Goldobin coming with Eriksson. So that would be my guess if a trade is ever worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, Alflives said: Loui doesn’t have a NMC. Only Lucic has that. That’s the stumbling block in any trade. Milan must be protected. Loui doesn’t. That and Lucic’s extra year. These two reasons, plus Loui can still help a team, and Milan can’t, make for why the Oilers have to add a lot. "Players with no-movement clauses at the time of the draft, and who decline to waive those clauses, must be protected by their teams." So it looks like Lucic can waive. Why would Seattle want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Lucic has only managed decent numbers in Edmonton playing with McJesus. A pylon could put up numbers playing with that guy. Offensively, he is now no better than your average 4th liner. Eriksson hasn't gelled with anybody very well as of yet. But if he finds chemistry, I feel he has the small potential of making a bit of a comeback. Even as it stands, despite LE's disappointing scoring in relation to his salary, he is still a player that contributes and his numbers are far better than that of Lucic. Add to that the fact Lucic has an extra year, plus the low cash price of LE in his final years, and there is no doubt we should be getting a sweetener if this deal was to occur. I also wouldn't do it unless Lucic allows us to leave him unprotected. He has to know Seattle would have no interest. He could still have a clause that we wouldnt send him to the minors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/edmonton-oilers-would-have-to-add-sweetener-to-move-milan-lucic-to-vancouver-nhl-insider-says-hmm here's what an Edmonton writer thinks .... he thinks maybe WE should sweeten the deal to get Lucic ... ohhh Edmonton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Provost said: The trade as rumoured would be really good for us... therefore I don’t believe it. What's the rumor? That drunk dial of a tweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanNucks1 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) tbh if Edmonton added a nice sweetener i wouldn't hate it Edited June 10, 2019 by VanNucks1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanNucks1 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) looks good to me Edited June 10, 2019 by VanNucks1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 14 hours ago, shiznak said: I don’t see how there’s a problem from Lucic taking up a protection spot. I get what you're saying but it does reduce your flexibility. What if we land some key UFA's/trades that need protecting after get him? What if we could trade for a solid forward from a team that won't be able to protect them, for cheap but wouldn't be able to because Lucic is going that slot? If he's coming here, the clause needs to be waived IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastDave Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Loui doesn’t have a NMC. Only Lucic has that. That’s the stumbling block in any trade. Milan must be protected. Loui doesn’t. That and Lucic’s extra year. These two reasons, plus Loui can still help a team, and Milan can’t, make for why the Oilers have to add a lot. According to CapFriendly, Loui currently has a NTC while Lucic has a NMC so in order for a trade to happen they both would need to waive those. I read somewhere after July 1st, Loui's contract has 3 x 3 years = 9 million in salary with a cap hit of 6 x 3 = 18 million. The amount of Lucic's contract is 4 x 4 years = 16 million in salary with a cap hit of 4 x 6 = 24 million. So the difference in salary is 7 million (16 - 9) and a difference of 6 million (24 - 18) in cap hit. So yeah, we would need somekind of sweetener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Dreger is seemingly apeing points spoken about here over three weeks ago, regarding adding a sweetener in a trade for Lucic. That guy is the epitome of full of $&!# from Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 57 minutes ago, VanNucks1 said: looks good to me Not only a great trade but they stripped McDavid of captaincy and gave it to Eriksson. Bold moves in Edmonton! Now I want to see Puljujarvi in Canucks blue, green and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Dreger is seemingly apeing points spoken about here over three weeks ago, regarding adding a sweetener in a trade for Lucic. That guy is the epitome of full of $&!# from Toronto. 90% of his statements are just his best guess thoughts not far from what we do here. He just puts on a serious face and says “Look, here is what I think will happen....” and it rarely does because nobody is that close to the actual convos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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