DownUndaCanuck Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Santini is basically a bottom pairing defenceman at best, Davies could be decent puck moving defenceman but hasn't touched the AHL yet at 22 and the picks are 2nd rounders. Steal for NJD but this might have mainly been a bit of a cap dump. New Jersey really gearing up, hopefully Hall will want to stay after a move like this. They've got a top forward in Hall, a future superstar in Hughes, now an elite defenceman coming off a bad year. This is a team that is rebuilding on the fly with so many good young players. All they need is goaltending. Forwards: Hughes, Hall, Zacha, Hischier. Future center depth that will probably be the best in the NHL. Superstar winger in Hall, they could just use a UFA winger here or there when it comes the time to contend. Defencemen: Subban, Vatanen, Severson, Butcher. All great puck-movers, they could use a top shutdown guy though but that's a very solid top-4 now and in 2-3 years time still. This blueline needed a veteran and Subban is just that. Goaltending is the main issue. This team will be a contender in anywhere from 1-3 years depending on how quickly those 3 future superstar centers develop and whether they can find a decent goaltender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generational.EP40 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, coryberg said: Cap space is currency right now. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Damn nice trade for NJ. Bottom pair D, prospect & a pair of seconds. Soft deal for Nashville. Too bad we couldn't get in on that just from a value standpoint, I don't think Tyson Barrie will come as cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maketherightmove Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Duodenum said: All these "rumours" yesterday yet nobody broke the two trades that just happened this morning. Step up your game, twitter warriors. Hilarious how full of sh*t most of these “insiders” are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) This is a trade that wouldnt have happened if teams weren't scared that the cap is going down (in terms of the return). See the Marleau trade Edited June 22, 2019 by Odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 After taking a moment to look up those pieces, it's confirmed - this wasn't even a trade, it was a straight up DUMP by NSH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Odd. said: This is a trade that wouldnt have happened if teams weren't scared that the cap is going down (in terms of the return). See the Marleau trade We need to try & capitalize on this ASAP. For a team lacking assets, its hard to look at that Marleau deal & wonder why we couldn't have done it. Either way this is a prime opportunity to make a deal and/or gain assets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Santini is basically a bottom pairing defenceman at best, Davies could be decent puck moving defenceman but hasn't touched the AHL yet at 22 and the picks are 2nd rounders. Steal for NJD but this might have mainly been a bit of a cap dump. New Jersey really gearing up, hopefully Hall will want to stay after a move like this. They've got a top forward in Hall, a future superstar in Hughes, now an elite defenceman coming off a bad year. This is a team that is rebuilding on the fly with so many good young players. All they need is goaltending. Forwards: Hughes, Hall, Zacha, Hischier. Future center depth that will probably be the best in the NHL. Superstar winger in Hall, they could just use a UFA winger here or there when it comes the time to contend. Defencemen: Subban, Vatanen, Severson, Butcher. All great puck-movers, they could use a top shutdown guy though but that's a very solid top-4 now and in 2-3 years time still. This blueline needed a veteran and Subban is just that. Goaltending is the main issue. This team will be a contender in anywhere from 1-3 years depending on how quickly those 3 future superstar centers develop and whether they can find a decent goaltender. They've also got Smith on the way on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 and canucks didnt offer something similar? subban woulda been perfect for the canucks ;( again JB failed ..he tried in 2016 t get em, and he didnt bother trying now .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Damn nice trade for NJ. Bottom pair D, prospect & a pair of seconds. Soft deal for Nashville. Too bad we couldn't get in on that just from a value standpoint, I don't think Tyson Barrie will come as cheap. Barrie is younger, and a much better teammate. However, he is a coming UFA in 2020. Cost might be similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_impersonator13 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, Slegr said: You do have to wonder.. his third team in fairly short span. He may be talented, but me thinks he's not invaluable to a team. So glad we didn't land him. Think I've told this before but I have a buddy that's pretty high up in hockey circles and has a connection to the Habs told me when PK got traded to Nashville that in the Habs locker room out of the 23 guys in the locker room PK was 23rd on the popularity scale. They couldn't have been happier to see him leave. Pretty sure Nashville is saying the same thing now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Will the Devils inherit the title of worst PP in the league now ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Dave "The Hammer" Schultz said: and canucks didnt offer something similar? subban woulda been perfect for the canucks ;( again JB failed ..he tried in 2016 t get em, and he didnt bother trying now .... We have a great character young core. Why bring PK and his dominant personality into our group? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Steal for NJD but this might have mainly been a bit of a cap dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, Alflives said: We have a great character young core. Why bring PK and his dominant personality into our group? we have 2nd most cap space, only ottawa has more, we need to spend and buy a very good def, and so far another one is traded and gone, JB need to open his wallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dave "The Hammer" Schultz said: and canucks didnt offer something similar? subban woulda been perfect for the canucks ;( again JB failed ..he tried in 2016 t get em, and he didnt bother trying now .... sounds like an awful lot of speculation to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Barrie is younger, and a much better teammate. However, he is a coming UFA in 2020. Cost might be similar. But another thing to consider, Colorado isn't under pressure to clear cap space. Think there looking for a good deal or they'll just keep him for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Alflives said: We have a great character young core. Why bring PK and his dominant personality into our group? Why bring a Norris winning Dman to a team that very much needs a Norris winning Dman? It's rhetorical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, shayster007 said: sounds like an awful lot of speculation to me how? he wanted subban, and failed 2x , tired of wating, ill be dead before cancuks ever get to the payoffs again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, coryberg said: Cap space is currency right now. Just hope the Canucks realize this at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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