theminister Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Interesting. I hope Malkin demands a trade. He plays so much better without Crosby around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Wasn't he already making 8 years at 8.7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 That ends the Crosby to Vancouver rumours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 For everyone complaining about investing $8 million in 2 of the best goalies in the league, its deals like this that make them justifiable. Crosby is one player, and as good as he is, he is no where near as valuable as having 2 great goalies playing at their peak (due to lack of fatigue) every single night. Ice hockey is a goalie's game, and like it or not the goalie is pretty much the same as football's quaterback - he is the most important player out there, plays 60 minutes of every single game of the season (well, 2 would) and his mistakes show up a lot more than the mistakes of another forward who plays 20 minutes a game for possibly not the entire season. Crosby may be involved in 1.5 goals a game over the season, but 2 goalies playing every minute of the game are involved in 2 to 3 goals a game. Goalies are hence far more important than forwards, so it baffles me why star forwards can earn $9 million and a star goalie like even Lundqvist is around the $6 million mark, despite being FAR more important to his team than any forward ever would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 The cap hit is pretty much meaningless for Crosby on a financial basis, since he makes way more money with sponsorship. The only thing that matter is Crosby's ego/reputation. If he takes 12-14 millions per years he looks like a greedy son of a B*. But at the same time, he wants to makes sure he makes close to ovechkin, slighty under to show he has a better heart/winning attitude. So 9M i think is reasonnable and it all comes down to reputation since, the money is pretty much useless for Crosby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonny_Bohonos_14 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Malkin for Nash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Reports say there have only been preliminary talks between the Penguins and Sidney Crosby’s side. Blogs and 1 media outlet are reporting that they have agreed or settled on a 9 year, $90 million deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Tell this to the guy paying Crosby's guaranteed salary, regardless of whether the team loses all its playoff revenue when he does not play, they dont sell tickets, and dont sign any corporate sponsors? When Sid steps on the ice he's instantly the best player on either team - hence, I'd say he'd be worth every penny of that contract (if it is indeed an accurate estimate of his next contract). Whether or not he's fully recovered from his concussion injury is irrelevant because his salary doesn't count against the Pens cap when he's not playing. One thing it will do however, is set a bar on both the Pens roster (think what Malkin will want on his next contract - right now the two stars make the exact same money) and throughout the league - think what this will create in the form of a 'ripple effect' in the league. Guys like Teows, Stamkos, Nugent-Hopkins, etc....won't get that kind of money (maybe Stamkos perhaps) but they will be asking for a percentage of what Crosby makes. If the league has a work disruption this fall it could (I emphasize could) have a negative effect throughout the league and revenues could drop leading to a drop in the cap. This is what got the league in trouble before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Holy crap Crosby is gonna be unbelievabley rich. His current contract, what he makes from sponsors, and now a $90 million extension. Me seriously jelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 That's only a 300K higher cap hit than what he has now. Don't see how this changes anything, or suddenly means Malkin is going anywhere (not gonna happen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 They were discussing on Live @ the Score that if he signs this massive contract, there is no insurance against his concussion. If he goes down again because of that, the Pens have to suffer his cap hit. Right there such a lengthy big deal seems stupid. Sign him two-three years @ whatever he wants. If he suffers another concussion, you're not suffering his cap hit. Then renegotiate down the road. Also, if he wanted out of Pitts for whatever reason, then he wants out. A ten year contract wont keep him there. So not only do you sign him to a contract that wouldn't keep him there no matter what, you're also potentially hooked to his contract for the remaining years. You don't need to sign these players to career long contracts. Never been a fan of them, they're stupid and we've seen it several times before already (Luongo. His contract may have looked great at first to most people but most are against it now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I think that when the dust settles(settled), that Luongos contract still looks really palatable. Especially since most likely he will retire, and because budget constrained cap-floor teams would love to add his cap-hit while only paying minimal dollars at the end of his contract. Add to that for now, he is very reasonably paid for what he provides and his cap-hit is stellar compared to his peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22Sedinery33 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Staal is gone, however Malkin is not going anywhere the year after. Most likely they will give up a D with a juicy contract with the exemption of Letang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzy Mahmood Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 This is quite possibly the biggest high-risk / high-reward deal in NHL history (possibly rivalled by the Lindros trade). The Pens own the best player in the game - if they lock him up, and he stays healthy, they win. If they invest so heavily and he's crocked, they lose BIG time. If I was GM, I'd trade him. Imagine the package you could get - Perry + Ryan, Nash + Johansen + Moore, Kane + Enstrom etc. They could really get tooled up, make Malkin C1, Staal C2 with decent wingers...and lose the headache of 'what if Sid goes down again?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sedin's 6th Sense Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 9$ a year? Isnt he only making barely below that now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 They were discussing on Live @ the Score that if he signs this massive contract, there is no insurance against his concussion. If he goes down again because of that, the Pens have to suffer his cap hit. Right there such a lengthy big deal seems stupid. Sign him two-three years @ whatever he wants. If he suffers another concussion, you're not suffering his cap hit. Then renegotiate down the road... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklas Jensen Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 if I was Crosby, I'd not sign and hit the open market. Probably get a whole lot more money; both on an annual basis and term-wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Sidney Crosby is in LA, working out on and off ice, and is fit, healthy and feeling great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksBruins Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 if I was Crosby, I'd not sign and hit the open market. Probably get a whole lot more money; both on an annual basis and term-wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Naslund Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Its Crosby,If I was the GM - I'd say, heres a bank, take what you want and we'll worry about it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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