oldnews Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 i'd be willing to compromise and accept hamhuis as a bonafide #2 and garrison as a 2-3 guy, but the reality is not a single one of the 6 is a game changer. none of them can control a game from the back end, none of them can quarterback a powerplay, none of them are physically dominating or intimidating, none of them worry other teams offensively or in the transition game. it's something virtually every legitimate cup contender needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Ah Oldnews, I was just about to give you a +1 on this post, then I saw the silly pictures following... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Looks like Jay Leno and Joey from Full House had a love child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 LOL that's an embarrassing list of players for such the amount of time he's had. NONE of those players u listed are irreplaceable. Kass higgy tanev are the only ones that are decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 so what the hell do you want then? He did apparently go after Hossa, he also went after Demitra, Sundin, and he actually made a play for Ryan Malone back then. What the hell do you want? Sydney crosby? Jagr? Igina? He made an offer to Shea Weber but Weber turned it down. What do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Green Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 ah, no thanks. don't really care much about the +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 so what the hell do you want then? He did apparently go after Hossa, he also went after Demitra, Sundin, and he actually made a play for Ryan Malone back then. What the hell do you want? Sydney crosby? Jagr? Igina? He made an offer to Shea Weber but Weber turned it down. What do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 An offer to Shea Weber? That's news to me... My understanding is that the management team talked about an offer sheet, but concluded that the Preds would match no matter what the amount. Of course Holmgren decided to try anyways and ended up screwing up everyone's chance to get him as a UFA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 answered, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industrious1 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 The expiration date on the coaching staff was at the end of last year's playoffs. This year (and playoffs) the team just went through the motions and it predictably ended up in dismal failure. AV is a solid coach, there is no doubt about it...however the saturation point has been reached and this team needs a new motivator. Will this happen? Bob seems to think so....i'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I heard the rumors that an offer was presented to him. He didn't sign it, because we just offered him a 1 year deal. But regardless I'm just letting that hater know, MIke Gillis is trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANGO Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Fire gillis first plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 No Sutter and No Playfair. Remember how good Playfair was with the Flames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Our biggest issue was scoring. PP and 5-on-5. We seem to focus too much on defensive posture and less on attacking the net. That to me is a coaching issue. If you have been watching the Playoffs you'll notice the successful teams play a good defensive game but also attack the net hard. If AV can't or won't make that adjustment to our game then he needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry_Wilkins Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Our biggest issue was scoring. PP and 5-on-5. We seem to focus too much on defensive posture and less on attacking the net. That to me is a coaching issue. If you have been watching the Playoffs you'll notice the successful teams play a good defensive game but also attack the net hard. If AV can't or won't make that adjustment to our game then he needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Our forwards aren't built to "attack the net". Who, other than Kassian, is in that category? The Sedins? Ha ha. Burrows is too small. Kesler isn't big enough, either. Nor are Higgins, Hansen, or Raymond. Booth is always injured. Roy wasn't brought in as a banger. Then we have the same body types down the middle in Ebbett and Schroeder. Vigneault can't make his forwards put on twenty pounds of muscle overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaNuCkSLoUiE23 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 And replace him with who? AV has done a fine job as coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Bob McKenzie is way off here. Why would you change the coach when it's the GM not making the right moves? You don't trade Luongo, you pick up guys like Ballard, Booth, Pahlsson, and Roy who do not contribute, you trade Grabner, I mean who's fault is it, not the coach. This one is all Gillis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry_Wilkins Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Have you been watching the Playoffs? There are plenty of "small" players attacking the net. You seem to mistake crashing the net with attacking. We play from the corners out. Too much time in the corners and not enough time going to the front. Instead of setting up in the corners we need to take the puck to the front with numbers. You make it sound as if only big goons can go to the front. Plus our transition game needs improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 so what the hell do you want then? He did apparently go after Hossa, he also went after Demitra, Sundin, and he actually made a play for Ryan Malone back then. What the hell do you want? Sydney crosby? Jagr? Igina? He made an offer to Shea Weber but Weber turned it down. What do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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