AV. Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Read something over at HF Boards that supposedly Moulson and Isles couldn't agree to extension over money. So theoretically, you could look at this deal as Vanek for 1st and 2nd but still a big risk if he leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Wow. Severe overpayment by the NYI. And MG couldn't find a way to do a deal with Garth Snow? We don't have Vanek duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Read something over at HF Boards that supposedly Moulson and Isles couldn't agree to extension over money. So theoretically, you could look at this deal as Vanek for 1st and 2nd but still a big risk if he leaves. even if Moulson can't agree to an extension, they could have gotten way more than a player who will likely to be an UFA, request more money than Moulson, andcould bolt to a contenter at anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Garth Snow should be fired...right after he trades Grabner to the Nucks for Booth!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shensmobile Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I'm not sure of behind the scenes problems, but I know that Tavares and Moulson are like best friends. I have a feeling Snow is hedging his bets that Moulson will re-sign with NYI after this year just to hang out with Tavares. They'll deal Okposo to open up room for Moulson on the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Top NHL goal scorers since 2009: 1. Lightning Steven Stamkos 192 2. Capitals Alex Ovechkin 162 3. Sharks Patrick Marleau 136 4. Ducks Corey Perry 134 5. Leafs Phil Kessel 126 .... *10. Sabres Matt Moulson 118 .... *18. Islanders Thomas Vanek 110 Yea 8 goals more with John Tavares doesn't say much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Read something over at HF Boards that supposedly Moulson and Isles couldn't agree to extension over money. So theoretically, you could look at this deal as Vanek for 1st and 2nd but still a big risk if he leaves. A 1st, a 2nd and whatever they can get for Moulson at the trade deadline? regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Ya done fracked up Snow lmfao I died from laughter when I saw the news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMohammadman Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Anyways, Moulson couldn't be a bad option for us at the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Most pundits speculated that it would be unlikely that Vanek would be able to match his current average in a new deal and it's extremely unlikely that Buffalo would give him $7.5 mil + per season. Conversely, coupled with their new building, it's possible the Isles see a 5 or 6 year deal at this price doable for Vanek. Additionally, even if the Islanders aren't able to sign him, this sends two signals out to the FA market: 1. They're willing to spend big on the right players. 2. They've officially moved out of rebuild mode and want to make all-in runs at the Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danthecanucksfan Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I like Moulson better than Vanek, so I definitely think this trade is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoolander Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Has to be something more to this. Moulson unhappy on the island? He was Tavares' right hand man... surely it was the First that was unhappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcrguy Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Most posts say NYI lost this trade, NYI made a dumb move, NYI paid way too much for the trade..................NYI beat us a few games ago........so how bad/dumb can they be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Most posts say NYI lost this trade, NYI made a dumb move, NYI paid way too much for the trade..................NYI beat us a few games ago........so how bad/dumb can they be We beat them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Most posts say NYI lost this trade, NYI made a dumb move, NYI paid way too much for the trade..................NYI beat us a few games ago........so how bad/dumb can they be Ummm, no they didn't.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Additionally, even if the Islanders aren't able to sign him, this sends two signals out to the FA market: 1. They're willing to spend big on the right players. 2. They've officially moved out of rebuild mode and want to make all-in runs at the Cup. I agree. It also gives them a bit of a drop on the FA market, for one of the top targets available, while getting the bulk of the season out of him. They can also use this time to spend negotiating a new deal. Brooklyn will be a marketable location as it;s a top city in the US to live in. It additionally might have extra appeal to Vanek as it's just downstate from where he has played his whole career. There are very few teams that might be willing to immediately drop a 5 year, $38+ mil contract on Vanek but the Isles must be one of them. That may seem like a steep price now but when average players start getting $5mil on day 1 of FA, and Moulson is one of the top wingers left available, then it might seem more palatable in a relativistic sense. Heck, trading for him allows them to give him the extra year, as in 8, that no other team can offer him. That allone might be the clincher. This deal may seem like an overpayment initially but until we see the FA period open up, and what these two players sign for, then this deal will be hard to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING ALBERTS Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Wow... It's been stated but I think the 1st was unnecessary. Moulson isn't much less of a player than Vanek, in fact he may turn out to be better. I hope Vanek re-signs to be Tavares' finisher and Moulson shafts Buffalo for a team with some talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Most posts say NYI lost this trade, NYI made a dumb move, NYI paid way too much for the trade..................NYI beat us a few games ago........so how bad/dumb can they be Just like how we've only beaten one playoff team? Get your facts right buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder__Bread Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Honestly this isn't THAT bad of a deal. People are overreacting. Moulson only has those great stats because he played with Tavares. No doubt he's a talented hockey player but let's be honest here, he's AT BEST a 2nd liner. Add in the fact that Tavares has never gotten the opportunity to play with a bonafide 1st liner, this deal makes sense for NYI. We're talking about Moulson, a player who's career high in points is 69, he's 29, and is a UFA at the end of the season, just like Vanek. a 1st is a steep price, but elite talent, rental or not always gets a 1st in return. The 2nd is in the following year as well so at least they aren't handcuffed at the draft. Moulson might not re-sign with Buffalo, he may want to go for a cup, and if NYI can make the playoffs and show Vanek that they can compete he may re-sign. Then Snow looks like a genius. The way I look at it, you're trading a rental and picks for an elite rental. And don't believe that Vanek is a lock to sign in Minny, players say things like that all the time, doesn't mean they'll go out and do it. Lucic has wanted to play for us his whole life, where is he now? Gaborik had a house here or was looking for one, how'd that pan out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING ALBERTS Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Yea 8 goals more with John Tavares doesn't say much Yeah but Vanek had... Uhhh... Hmmm Dipietro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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