JeremyCuddles Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Jake was the better choice, because we got Zhukenov in this draft so we don't need Nylander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Jake was the better choice, because we got Zhukenov in this draft so we don't need Nylander. Don't u stir the pot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I would consider Ekblad a franchise player, Seguin a very very good player and key element on that team. You're right, it depends on definition. I don't see anyone from Virt's draft class, outside of the top 3-4, that I would consider franchise guys that you build your entire team around. Most of the time Franchise players get picked as sleepers. To look at a draft and say its a bust or there will be only two or three players before any games. Well we can look back at drafts 10 years ago and make those conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Most of the time Franchise players get picked as sleepers. To look at a draft and say its a bust or there will be only two or three players before any games. Well we can look back at drafts 10 years ago and make those conclusions. I would say most of the time franchise players get selected with the first few picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I would say most of the time franchise players get selected with the first few picks. Agreed, though there are sleepers, obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Most of the time Franchise players get picked as sleepers. To look at a draft and say its a bust or there will be only two or three players before any games. Well we can look back at drafts 10 years ago and make those conclusions. Stawns is referring to specifically that draft year FWIW, not drafts generically. It was not noted as, nor does it appear to be now, a particularly strong draft class. Short of a surprise here and there, he's likely correct that outside the top 3-4 there will be very little in the way of elite, franchise players. I would say most of the time franchise players get selected with the first few picks. Also that ^ Edited September 25, 2015 by J.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 How did you like Naslund? Loved Naslund. Planted a tree in the yard, and named it Marcus. I have trees for Daniel, Henrik, Bertuzzi, Linden and Bure. I would never plant a tree for a guy named "Wee Willie". And this is not the name I gave him. It's what is used during the Leaf's play-by-play, and it's spreading. He's a soft perimiter player. If that's what people like in their players, that's fine. He's not Marcus, and he's not Kane. He's more like Vey than any of those other guys. And I'm not a fan of Vey either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Jake was the better choice, because we got Zhukenov in this draft so we don't need Nylander. Except Zhuk plays a lot harder on and off the puck game than Wee Willie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Except Zhuk plays a lot harder on and off the puck game than Wee Willie. I feel like u just make assumptions... Have ever even seen this guy play haha, he plays against men and provides tons of offence, Zhuk plays against kids and does well. I'd obviously much rather have a guy who's proved against men. But that's why he was chosen top 10 and not 5th round lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Yeah because naming trees is normal unless the name is Wee Willie..... Hey! That's a low [bow]. I guess I could name a bonzi weeping willow Wee Willie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I feel like u just make assumptions... Have ever even seen this guy play haha, he plays against men and provides tons of offence, Zhuk plays against kids and does well. I'd obviously much rather have a guy who's proved against men. But that's why he was chosen top 10 and not 5th round lol I think the poster, who first mentioned Zhuk in comparison to Nylander, was making the point that small, soft, perimiter, one dimensional players are better taken in the later rounds, because of their high bust potential. And please stop with the "lots of love" acronym. Even sassy furry muppets have their limits:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 As per usual the Jake Virtanen Talk has gone down the toilet and became a Nylander bash/ball grope session. So how about that guy Jake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Can't believe people are still talking about picking Virtanen. It was 2 years ago, get over it. We got a good player. That very much so remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 As per usual the Jake Virtanen Talk has gone down the toilet and became a Nylander bash/ball grope session. So how about that guy Jake? We could bash Ehlers too! I love what Jake brings. He's big, fast, physical - on and off the puck, and he affects the game in a variety of ways. Should he be on the team though, considering the way he plays? Is he physically mature enough to stand up to solid men without hurting himself? Would spending another year in Junior retard his development? If sent to Junior, could the Canucks convince the Hitmen to trade him to Kelowna or Vancouver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 That very much so remains to be seen. Just like all players in that draft. We see Ekblad and Bennet, but the rest we are still waiting to see. Jake has the size, skill, and physical presence to impact the game right now. Most of those other guys picked around him don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Just like all players in that draft. We see Ekblad and Bennet, but the rest we are still waiting to see. Jake has the size, skill, and physical presence to impact the game right now. Most of those other guys picked around him don't. Well he's gonna have to start making an impact then or junior it is. Iv liked his game but not to the point of keeping him up here full time. (iv been flip flopping because of his inconsistencies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Just like all players in that draft. We see Ekblad and Bennet, but the rest we are still waiting to see. Jake has the size, skill, and physical presence to impact the game right now. Most of those other guys picked around him don't. The exact same things could be said about Kassian, and he hasn't been able to put it together yet. I'm not suggesting that he's a bust or anything, but the kid hasn't even played one NHL game yet, and he didn't exactly set the world on fire in his last season with the Hitmen/Comets playoff run/first Canucks preseason game. Let's just wait and see before we start declaring him a "good player (NHL-wise, anyways)". As of this moment, he's a "good prospect." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 The exact same things could be said about Kassian, and he hasn't been able to put it together yet. I'm not suggesting that he's a bust or anything, but the kid hasn't even played one NHL game yet, and he didn't exactly set the world on fire in his last season with the Hitmen/Comets playoff run/first Canucks preseason game. Let's just wait and see before we start declaring him a "good player (NHL-wise, anyways)". As of this moment, he's a "good prospect." Exactly why I think Virt around and under their total guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Just thought you would like to know the nick name Nylander has earned in TO: "Wee Willy". Got a link to back up your assertion there, Fluffy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 why dont you actually talk to some Toronto fans on gow they feel about him. Might give you more insight than some stupid nickname you made up. My uncle and cousins are the biggest leaf homers around. They wanted Jake or Ritchie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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