Nuxfanabroad Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Too many parts going back, take away Shinkaruk and I'd be fine with it Bonino Tanev Hansen 1st rounder Markstrom Glad posters are discussing this idea, & agree it probably represents quite an overpayment. To get such a player, it would likely require significantly overpaying. Prior to the deal occurring, we'd have to agree to a reasonable number with RJ. He'd prob jump for the chance to play at home. I wouldn't overpay if it were a strong team(eg:Chi, Det, Bos), but CLB makes it different. If they ever won a Cup, good for them, but it's not a market that players really want to play in. They'll always have these issues with top players. Again: Shinkaruk, Bonino, Hansen, Tanev, 2015 1st(protected top 10) & Lack. Get them to include 2 of their dud prospects(for the 50 contract matter, make 1 a D man) & Johansen. Daniel.. Henrik ..Vrbata Burrows.. Johansen ..Kassian Higgins.. Matthias ..Vey Sestito.. Rich ..Dorsett Would leave room for Jensen and/or Horvat. Comets could still add guys like Gaunce, Fox & Kenins. Our D would be hurt in losing Tanev, but Miller would get a chance to earn his keep. Losing Lack would be tough(really like the guy), but who's to say his career will definitely surpass Markstrom & Eriksson? Who really knows(especially with Demko also in the pipeline)? The teams that might rival this package, probably don't have the cap space(to add Johansen), nor are their pieces as reasonable & diverse(all positions). Tanev, Lack, Bonino & Hansen around 7.5 mill, mostly locked in for 2~3 years, would be attractive for a non-enticing market like Columbus. Hard for them to land key vet FA's. Our future at C? Fine even without Henrik, down the road... Johansen, Horvat, McCann, Gaunce, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 The only deals that make sense for us Columbus wouldn't do, and the only deals that make sense for Columbus we wouldn't do. (Or we would be stupid to do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octapi Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Another note: Ive seen it mentioned in many threads but here. That 1st round pick next year is worth more than in the past because its such a deep pool next year. Seems a bit undervalued in some of the offers. Also remember, if Columbus cant come to an agreement with RJ then it comes down to us outbidding the next guy - it helps if it is what Columbus actually needs but if someone offers a better package that doesnt fit their exact needs then they may still win. Gotta hope here that RJ lays it down like Kesler and gives Columbus a small pool of teams to negotiate with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Another note: Ive seen it mentioned in many threads but here. That 1st round pick next year is worth more than in the past because its such a deep pool next year. Seems a bit undervalued in some of the offers. Also remember, if Columbus cant come to an agreement with RJ then it comes down to us outbidding the next guy - it helps if it is what Columbus actually needs but if someone offers a better package that doesnt fit their exact needs then they may still win. Gotta hope here that RJ lays it down like Kesler and gives Columbus a small pool of teams to negotiate with. First off. They have until Dec 1 to work out a deal and still have him eligible to play this season. Even if he doesn't sign before then he still doesn't become a UFA for another 4 years. In the unlikely event that they do decide to trade him Johansen has zero say in where he goes . He can't "lay it down like Kesler". The only negotiating tool he has at this point is to hold out until he gets the deal both he and the team can live with. But I seriously doubt he'll forgo a full years salary to get what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Liszt Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 A 2015 1st, two center prospects and an NHL winger. 2015 1st Gaunce / McCann Cassels Hansen FOR Johansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 A 2015 1st, two center prospects and an NHL winger. 2015 1st Gaunce / McCann Cassels Hansen FOR Johansen I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 as good as he will be he hasn't earned a contract over 3 years. He had a great year but until he has another its smart not to gamble like that. they will eventually give him what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucks2477 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Update: Still nothing ;-) http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/18/report-negotiations-remain-chilly-between-columbus-johansen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Aaron Portzline @Aportzline Dispatch: #CBJ, Johansen's agent no closer to deal, with training camp looming less than one month away http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2014/08/19/kekalainen-doesnt-want-johansen-to-hold-out.html … Yesterday was the first time either side would discuss the possibility of a training camp holdout by Johansen, and Overhardt has history. Overhardt clients who have held out of training camp: Turris (PHX), Dubinsky (NYR), Turco (DAL), Shields (SJ), Morrison (NJ). Also, Overhardt represents Ryan Kesler, who signed an offer sheet with Flyers as training camp neared in 2006. Johansen due to arrive in Columbus on Wednesday, will workout with the group of players in town even if a contract isn't reached. Not sure where this goes from here. Maybe a last minute deal, or does it push into the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 As this goes on, the more pressure for both of them to get a deal done. One will bite it's just a matter of which, you don't want this to become a distraction either if your the Jackets' GM because you're coming off a big season with your team and don't want to shake anything in that locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 A player has motivation and consistency issues but plays really well in a contract year. He certainly seems like one of those character guys Benning wants on our team. It's guys like him and Toews that you build your team around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 2 year deal, or whatever gets him to UFA status. And we swoop him up. Get it done. Not sure we have, or want to give up, the pieces necessary to acquire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinkaruk_9 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Apparently, Johansen and CBJ are 3 million apart. CBJ wants him at a bridge of 4, he wants 7... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 2 year deal, or whatever gets him to UFA status. And we swoop him up. Get it done. Not sure we have, or want to give up, the pieces necessary to acquire him. I think he's 4 years away from UFA status. Also, it has been widely reported that Columbus will NOT sign a contract that will take him to his UFA year. They are looking for a maximum deal of 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 CBJ offer i think is more than reasonable….. they fact he wants 7 (when he probably worth 5-5.5) MIGHT mean theres a chance he's on the trade block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Ryan Johansen stat for anyone who's wondering http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8475793&view=splits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Apparently, Johansen and CBJ are 3 million apart. CBJ wants him at a bridge of 4, he wants 7... Johansen wants a long-term deal aswell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Johansen wants a long-term deal aswell? I think he wanted 5 years. So he can become a UFA after his deal expires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Locker room cancer in the making. Hope CBJ gets rid of him because I actually like that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Best case scenario for Canuck fans, is if they sign him for 4 years at 6.5M per. Sedin's contract are up by that time, and we could sign him long term for whatever the asking price is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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