Kassian for Hodgson now ?

[D-Money]

Bieksa -1.61 hits per game.

Sbisa-2 hits per game.

Kassian-1.69 hits per game.

Not exactly lighting up the NHL with his skill and brawn to date.

323rd place in the NHL in points scored and 215th in Hits per game category.

1) D get more minutes, obviously

2) D generally get more hits

3) Lots of hits can actually be a negative thing, as they indicate how often you don't have possession of the puck

[iinatcc]

Gillis may have made some mistakes in his time here but getting Kassian was one of his absolutely best moves. For years this team has been starving for a bigger, nastier team that can stand up for itself. Zack Kassian is the epitome of what they have needed so badly.

Kassian was supposed to help the team in the playoffs and that didn't pan out. Hodgson could have scored 1 goal or two, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Now let's say even if those rumors about Hodgson a straight up Hodgson for Kassian for a team than needed to win now at the time was not ideal considering Kassian was unproven.

[Chalky]

Kassian was supposed to help the team in the playoffs and that didn't pan out. Hodgson could have scored 1 goal or two, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Now let's say even if those rumors about Hodgson a straight up Hodgson for Kassian for a team than needed to win now at the time was not ideal considering Kassian was unproven.

Kesler could have scored 1 goal or two, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Pahlsson could have scored 1 or two (more) goals, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Hank could have scored 1 goal or two, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Burrows could have scored 1 goal or two, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Raymond could have scored 1 goal or two, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Now I will look into my crystal ball

Nope, Cody was never going to score. See? It was that easy. We can all stop talking about Cody now.

[Brick Tamland]

Edit:

I forgot the Nit put me on ignore. He got tired of my calling him on his bs.

He should see this

[coryberg]

Hodgson could have scored 1 goal or two, which would have helped the canucks...

-Påhlsson scored a goal against the kings. 1 in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

-Påhlsson had 6 points and was a +4 playing on a shutdown 3Rd line in the final 19 regular season games with the canucks

-Coho had 8 points and was a -7 playing on the 2nd line with powerplay time in the final 20 games with buffalo

Påhlsson was an upgrade to our 3rd line. It was Keith destroying Daniel that was our downfall that year.

[oldnews]

-Påhlsson scored a goal against the kings. 1 in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

-Påhlsson had 6 points and was a +4 playing on a shutdown 3Rd line in the final 19 regular season games with the canucks

-Coho had 8 points and was a -7 playing on the 2nd line with powerplay time in the final 20 games with buffalo

Påhlsson was an upgrade to our 3rd line. It was Keith destroying Daniel that was our downfall that year.

couldn't agree more. have posted the same a number of times

[Baggins]

1) D get more minutes, obviously

2) D generally get more hits

3) Lots of hits can actually be a negative thing, as they indicate how often you don't have possession of the puck

Don't be ridiculous, Comparing apples (forwards) to apples (forwards) makes too much sense and won't work for him. He has to use oranges (d-men) to make any kind of point. And asking him to take ice time into consideration is just crazy talk that has no relevance. Ice time can't possibly have any bearing on things like hits, points etc.

As to point #3, during Bieksa's second full season he was told to stop "chasing hits". Doing so you can take yourself out of the play or leave you way out of position. He wasn't told to stop hitting, just pick his spots better. His hitting dropped after that, but he also played smarter.

[iinatcc]

Kesler could have scored 1 goal or two, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Pahlsson could have scored 1 or two (more) goals, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Hank could have scored 1 goal or two, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Burrows could have scored 1 goal or two, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Raymond could have scored 1 goal or two, which would have helped the Canucks againts the Kings since 3 of the 4 losses were 1 goal games.

Now I will look into my crystal ball

Nope, Cody was never going to score. See? It was that easy. We can all stop talking about Cody now.

Let's look at the regular season that year Hodgson was a difference maker in key games Boston, Detroit? Plus I'd wager I would count Hodgson to have a better chance of scoring over Kassian at that series.

[apollo]

The only person it matters to is his agent, everyone at CDC knows he sucks.

I think himself and his family are pretty high on the care meter. His agent doesn't get much of it.

[Dogbyte]

Let's look at the regular season that year Hodgson was a difference maker in key games Boston, Detroit? Plus I'd wager I would count Hodgson to have a better chance of scoring over Kassian at that series.

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Just cause you say so does make it even remotely close to reality. Facts are we sucked. Hodgson wasn't making a difference. Dammit, Bergeron or Toews probably doesn't make a difference.

[Chalky]

Let's look at the regular season that year Hodgson was a difference maker in key games Boston, Detroit? Plus I'd wager I would count Hodgson to have a better chance of scoring over Kassian at that series.

Let me look again.

Nope, Kassian scored, Hodgson didn't. Move on.

[Baggins]

Let's look at the regular season that year Hodgson was a difference maker in key games Boston, Detroit? Plus I'd wager I would count Hodgson to have a better chance of scoring over Kassian at that series.

So he was a difference maker in 2 out 63 games in the regular season. Open the trophy cupboard! Raymond was the difference maker in two games as was Ebbett and Andrews (same number of game winners).

Kassian didn't replace Hodgson for the playoffs. We may have swapped those two players, but it was Pahlsson that replaced Cody and Kassian played fourth line. Ignoring the notion scoring in the playoffs is tougher and that we facing the leagues second best goalie that season, Hodgson averaged 1 goal per 4.2 games during the regular season. So logically we should have been able to expect one goal from Hodgson for the series. Pahlsson scored one goal. So no difference there. Add to this Pahlsson is a defensive specialist, and Hodgson is anything but, and one could say that Hodgson would have been more likely to hurt us in the series than help us compared to the guy that replaced him. Face it, Hodgson would not have been a difference maker in that series.

[The Lock]

Let's look at the regular season that year Hodgson was a difference maker in key games Boston, Detroit? Plus I'd wager I would count Hodgson to have a better chance of scoring over Kassian at that series.

Let's just look at everything that Hodgson did right and forget everything else bad that happened. That way we can provide an argument and sounds legit and try and sell used cars while we're at it!

"Hey, you know you want to buy this car, look at the beautiful exterior. What? The exhaust? Oh ,that's supposed to have a million holes."

[Drewismyname]

Hodson when integrated into a team intelligently is an effective player and we have viewed this during his time in vancouver. He could have very well won the calder if he wasnt traded.

Iv watched his play in buffalo and he plays exactly the same as he did here except isnt utilized effectively.

He contributed to hansen and booth being effective offensive third liners. Hansen was a +18 that year and had the second most points as a canuck while booth had his best year as a canuck in most if not all aspects. Boot and hansen would crash the boards at the half boards and pinch the opposition with the d man while the smaller hodgson would stay near centre for the outlet and then move the punch up the ice. Hes always played like this and in buffalo the system doesnt work the same and his line gets scored on. Iv witnessed it a few times

Hopefully hes traded to a team that can utilize what he brings to the table And if not he can play with mcdavid and or reinhart next year.

[UFCanuck]

Mcdavid/Eichel

Reinhart

Girgensons

Grigorenko

Ristolainen - Zadorov

They're building their team properly as long as this season goes as planned.

[Absent Canuck]

.40 PP time.

Two hits.

Two shots on net.

One TKA.

Of the five face off men he has the second best winning %.

Neutral +/- .

Third line line mates and minutes.

Worst team in hockey.

Here comes the dreaded mysterious Sabre illness excuse. According to this spin, the Sabres suck but no individual player actually sucks. They are all great. Honest

The 'Great Sabres Illness' is to blame , not the players who are paid to perform on the ice.

Poor Cody plays on the third line because he SUCKED on the first and he SUCKED on the second so two coaches in a row now, Ralston and Nolan, have slid him downwards. He alone has played himself down there and appears to be playing himself right off the team.

Sabres won again tonight, with Cody getting 12 min of ice time and almost 2 min powerplay time. What did he get? DRY @#$% .

Not even a + . Something like 31% on the dot as well.

The guy has 2 points in 20 games for christs sakes. Hodgson cant play defense. He cant skate. He is one dimensional. If he aint scoring he is useless.

All hail the Mysterious Sabre Illness where nobody is actually responsible for their play on the ice.

[Absent Canuck]

Hodson when integrated into a team intelligently is an effective player and we have viewed this during his time in vancouver. He could have very well won the calder if he wasnt traded.

Iv watched his play in buffalo and he plays exactly the same as he did here except isnt utilized effectively.

He contributed to hansen and booth being effective offensive third liners. Hansen was a +18 that year and had the second most points as a canuck while booth had his best year as a canuck in most if not all aspects. Boot and hansen would crash the boards at the half boards and pinch the opposition with the d man while the smaller hodgson would stay near centre for the outlet and then move the punch up the ice. Hes always played like this and in buffalo the system doesnt work the same and his line gets scored on. Iv witnessed it a few times

Hopefully hes traded to a team that can utilize what he brings to the table And if not he can play with mcdavid and or reinhart next year.

Yeah. Anyone can look good on an overstacked team playing against the other teams weakest lines. As for the Calder, he had 3 points in his last 16 games with the canucks. So spare us the spin of using conjecture as fact.

When he went to Buffalo he was given an enormous opportunity. When given a chance with Pominville and Vanek, he produced. For a while. Then his mysterious sabre illness kicks in and he cant produce anymore. Then the coach demotes him.

Your right. Hodgson

Let's just look at everything that Hodgson did right and forget everything else bad that happened. That way we can provide an argument and sounds legit and try and sell used cars while we're at it!

"Hey, you know you want to buy this car, look at the beautiful exterior. What? The exhaust? Oh ,that's supposed to have a million holes."

This is what they do. Why? Its got nothing to do with Hodgson. Its got everything to do with them admitting they were wrong so they would rather lie and spin their way out of it . Heaven knows if they were wrong about the guy they would be the first person in the history of the world to be wrong about something.

[Gross-Misconduct]

Here comes the dreaded mysterious Sabre illness excuse. According to this spin, the Sabres suck but no individual player actually sucks. They are all great. Honest

The 'Great Sabres Illness' is to blame , not the players who are paid to perform on the ice.

Poor Cody plays on the third line because he SUCKED on the first and he SUCKED on the second so two coaches in a row now, Ralston and Nolan, have slid him downwards. He alone has played himself down there and appears to be playing himself right off the team.

Sabres won again tonight, with Cody getting 12 min of ice time and almost 2 min powerplay time. What did he get? DRY @#$% .

Not even a + . Something like 31% on the dot as well.

The guy has 2 points in 20 games for christs sakes. Hodgson cant play defense. He cant skate. He is one dimensional. If he aint scoring he is useless.

All hail the Mysterious Sabre Illness where nobody is actually responsible for their play on the ice.

Like kassian fanboys dont spend all their time making excuses for him.

[Drewismyname]

So he scored 31 pnts in 45 games saying he couldnt score again at that pace after the trade deadline if he wasnt traded is as good at asking a magic eight ball.

A player who is almost a ppg in 31 45 games is calder worthy and afaik landeskog scored the same rate.

Im not here to make claims the calder refference was a supplement point to the main point that hes a decent player being used effectively im not arguing who is better.

Im about what a player is not what a player is compared to a other much different plYer.

You can say thats what so and so does etc but ur grouping a lot of different point of views into one statement and claiming it to be correct. By the same token i can use a blanket statement and claim every post is a certain viewpoint when it varies just because part of it goes against my argument.

Let me guess your response is, huh? Whats that?

Not everything is black and white and grouping different responses to one statement is u intelligent and ruins debate.

[Canucks1219]

So he scored 31 pnts in 45 games saying he couldnt score again at that pace after the trade deadline if he wasnt traded is as good at asking a magic eight ball.

A player who is almost a ppg in 31 45 games is calder worthy and afaik landeskog scored the same rate.

Im not here to make claims the calder refference was a supplement point to the main point that hes a decent player being used effectively im not arguing who is better.

Im about what a player is not what a player is compared to a other much different plYer.

You can say thats what so and so does etc but ur grouping a lot of different point of views into one statement and claiming it to be correct. By the same token i can use a blanket statement and claim every post is a certain viewpoint when it varies just because part of it goes against my argument.

Let me guess your response is, huh? Whats that?

Not everything is black and white and grouping different responses to one statement is u intelligent and ruins debate.

That would be my response, but it would have nothing to do with hockey.