Gaudette Celly Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 In my opinion we lack top 6 wingers and a top 2-3 defencemen. Eriksson would be an upgrade to our wing. I don't think trading Kassian would be a good idea but I wouldn't be opposed to trading say, Gaunce/Cassels or something to that effect. Boston might not be interested at all but do you see where I'm going with this?? Yes, but we do not have the capspace to do a trade like that. Something else for at least $2.5mil or so would have to go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 While i agree that ownership highly values the playoff revenue and prefers to be getting that every year they must also know that if and when the canucks win a cup it will make them even more money long term. Benning will not be fired after one season even if they dont make the playoffs because ownership is likely smart enough to realize the team is on the decline with lots of older players and that a transition is coming. Bennings job is to sustain things during that retool but he has some time on his side. Gillis was probably fired as much to install a new gm who has grace period than any other reason. With fickle fans that were starting to bail they needed hope more than anything and ownership knew that. The irrelevance of this post doesn't stop to amaze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The irrelevance of this post doesn't stop to amaze. I assume by "this post" you mean your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I think its all about finding the right balance. A young player with upside at the bottom of our depth chart could be an attractive asset for a team with a need at that position. This is just hypothetical but we have an abundance of young prospect centers right now (Horvat/Gaunce/McCann/Cassels). If we were looking for a player to give us that playoff push (Eriksson?) and Boston needs a center then lets make a deal. Obviously we shouldn't be trading a defenceman because we don't have the depth. You have to give a little to get a little. If you have 5 A+ centers, 5 A+ LW's, 2 A+ RW's and 1 A+ D it makes no sense to trade away a D for a C or LW. In my opinion we lack top 6 wingers and a top 2-3 defencemen. Eriksson would be an upgrade to our wing. I don't think trading Kassian would be a good idea but I wouldn't be opposed to trading say, Gaunce/Cassels or something to that effect. Boston might not be interested at all but do you see where I'm going with this?? Let me spell Eriksson for you: SALO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Just watched the Bruins and Devils, they allowed 14 shots. I think they are fix'n to turn the corner. Everyone played amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Just watched the Bruins and Devils, they allowed 14 shots. I think they are fix'n to turn the corner. Everyone played amazing. It was the Devils. Nothing to be proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 It was the Devils. Nothing to be proud of. Sounds like you have never played competitive sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Just watched the Bruins and Devils, they allowed 14 shots. I think they are fix'n to turn the corner. Everyone played amazing. I can't lie I like watching Boston lose games but ya I'm thinking they're to good not to be in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VANcanucks92 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 virt is still no lock. horvat looks like at the very least he will be a solid player but the reality is, we have no blue chip prospects. our non blue chip prospects are no more of a guarantee than anyone else's non blue chip prospects, so . . . we really don't know what we have other than no guarantee's. if benning trades any of our youth for another ageing vet, he will be filling the ship with bricks. he must know we will not win the cup this year. anyone who thinks that has blinders on. i worry that jim has blinders on. i remember him commenting on his players at a pre-camp fishing trip, saying that they were a solid group along with various superlatives. i hoped it was just hyperbole, drumming up interest in a team that had just crapped the bed last year. i would hope jim would do whatever it takes to pick up as many as possible picks in this years deep draft not as a fix but as a solid beginning to the impending new era of canuck hockey. this is probably the most uninspiring winningest ?? canuck squad i have ever watched. i don't get ramped up for games. there are no players i am particularly keen to watch other than maybe kassian, lack, horvat. i have deciphered similar comments from others along the same lines. i remember the 80's. watching the canucks was with dim prospects and it was as close as we have ever gotten to resembling a southern u.s franchise as far as fanbase. anyway, i ramble. suffice it to say benning's moves in 2015 will set the course for this franchise good or bad for years to come Virtanen is a blue chip imo, any time you are ranked 6th by central scouting, you are a highly coveted prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Sounds like you have never played competitive sports. I have. Nice try though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I have. Nice try though. Well seems odd seeing as any victory is a good thing and something to be happy about. Wouldn't you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Well seems odd seeing as any victory is a good thing and something to be happy about. Wouldn't you agree? You can be anything you want on the Internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 You can be anything you want on the Internet Well ain't that the truth. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 This is ridiculously exaggerated but the premise I can agree with. IMO the only surefire NHL'rs we have are Virt and Horvat. The rest are on the latter side of things. And don't think either of them will amount to much more than decent second liners. No one is surefire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 This is ridiculously exaggerated but the premise I can agree with. IMO the only surefire NHL'rs we have are Virt and Horvat. The rest are on the latter side of things. And don't think either of them will amount to much more than decent second liners. Gaunce is pretty "surefire" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Let me spell Eriksson for you: SALO What do you mean by that? Another knock on Erikkson being injury prone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 No one is surefire. I'm just saying that unless they receive career ending injuries they should be able to carve out careers as 3rd or 4th liners at the minimum.Gaunce is pretty "surefire" I'm not going to pretend to have seen him play recently but I was under the impression Guance is being bred as a defensive specialist. If he's improved his footspeed then his stock could have improved, but he still hasn't proved anything at the NHL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 You like to speak in absolutes and pretend to know the future - which does absolutely nothing for your credibility or pretenses of authority. The suggestion that Seguin is the most valuable player in the league doesn't help your case either, at all. Seguin has peers - in his own age group - that are clear and simple comparables - Tarasenko (41 pts +19), Kucherov (41pts +26), Johansen (36 pts and probably the premier young two way forward in the NHL) - if you knew anywhere near as much as you posture to, you'd realize that any of these players can be seen to have value in the same range as Seguin - and in fact, Tarasenko comes with a 1.75 million cap hit, while Kucherov is a $712k cap hit for the next two years, and Johanssen three years at 4 million. Forsberg is 20 years old, with 38 pts and +28 with a 1.4 million cap hit. Ekblad is a 19 year old defenseman with 22 points on an ELC. Your oversimplifications and fortune telling aren't that convincing. Anything is possible I guess. But do you actually think Smith, Eriksson, and Morrow's contributions will be better than Seguins? The chance of that happening are close to none. Reading comprehension? I said arguably has the most value. You may have missed that. 22 year old 40 goal 90 point center and he could still get better? With a 5.75m cap hit? That is valuable as &^@#. None of the guys you mentioned have long term contracts. They are going to raises and will be making much more than Seguin. Seguin is better than all of them and will be making less than them for the next 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Agreed. virt is still no lock. horvat looks like at the very least he will be a solid player but the reality is, we have no blue chip prospects. our non blue chip prospects are no more of a guarantee than anyone else's non blue chip prospects, so . . . we really don't know what we have other than no guarantee's. if benning trades any of our youth for another ageing vet, he will be filling the ship with bricks. he must know we will not win the cup this year. anyone who thinks that has blinders on. i worry that jim has blinders on. i remember him commenting on his players at a pre-camp fishing trip, saying that they were a solid group along with various superlatives. i hoped it was just hyperbole, drumming up interest in a team that had just crapped the bed last year. i would hope jim would do whatever it takes to pick up as many as possible picks in this years deep draft not as a fix but as a solid beginning to the impending new era of canuck hockey. this is probably the most uninspiring winningest ?? canuck squad i have ever watched. i don't get ramped up for games. there are no players i am particularly keen to watch other than maybe kassian, lack, horvat. i have deciphered similar comments from others along the same lines. i remember the 80's. watching the canucks was with dim prospects and it was as close as we have ever gotten to resembling a southern u.s franchise as far as fanbase. anyway, i ramble. suffice it to say benning's moves in 2015 will set the course for this franchise good or bad for years to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Yes, but we do not have the capspace to do a trade like that. Something else for at least $2.5mil or so would have to go back. Exactly. If there's a deal to be made for Eriksson we'd have to give up at least Higgins to fit under the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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