Gaudette Celly Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Noseforthenet said: That is the rub right there. That extra year on Higgins' contract. Canucks take the RFA rights and lose him for nothing if there isn't much to salvage. Higgins on 1 year remaining at 2.5 is better than a Schultz at 3-4mil + who you don't know what to do with. For us, we need the cap relief for next year. That loses 2.5 and then another bit for the rest of the year with Weber. Yeah, I would buy that. Nothing wrong with getting an extra $2.5 mil this summer. Even if not used for UFAs, it gives us massive flexibility to bail out cap-strapped teams. As for Schultz, here's an article from Willis today, outlining his play especially of late. A snippet: Quote His play has reached such a level, though that Edmonton had no other realistic option. I graded Saturday’s loss to Montreal and gave Schultz the lowest possible mark in an afternoon where he was easily the Oilers’ worst player: #19 Justin Schultz, 1. Wow was he bad. Just out of curiosity I looked at the five-on-five numbers; the shots were 11-0 Montreal when Schultz was on the ice and 19-19 when he was on the bench. He got time with Davidson and Fayne after getting run over with Nurse; nothing would stop the bleeding. He turned the puck over on a bad clear on Montreal’s 1-0 goal. The official scorer credits him with two turnovers; by my count he had five on the game, several of them leading to shorthanded rushes by Montreal. If he’s in the lineup for Sunday’s game, it won’t be based on his performance against the Canadiens. http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/cult-of-hockey-justin-schultz-a-healthy-scratch-even-as-oilers-must-still-hope-to-trade-him And we complained about Weber. Two possible benefits: 1. A final hull puncture to the beleaguered 15/16 Canuck Titanic 2. A new CDC whipping boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Nothing wrong with getting an extra $2.5 mil this summer. Even if not used for UFAs, it gives us massive flexibility to bail out cap-strapped teams. As for Schultz, here's an article from Willis today, outlining his play especially of late. A snippet: And we complained about Weber. Two possible benefits: 1. A final hull puncture to the beleaguered 15/16 Canuck Titanic 2. A new CDC whipping boy How do they say it? #tanknation Actually that might be a Leafs thing. The only think I can see is we try to develop him right. He wanted Vancouver, but we offered him sheltered minutes. He picked Edmonton, so he could be "the guy" on the back end. Doesn't work that way, hot shot. You will get better, but time is required to make you better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 All this speculation because Justin Schultz sucks so bad he got scratched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 The problem with Schultz is that he was relied upon to play huge defensive minutes m and was never developed properly. He never got to play the sheltered minutes a developing dman should get , i.e. Hutton. Maybe if he was a 3rd or 4th dman on the team and was relief upon more offensively while he develops defensively. Edmonton screwed him, expecting Schultz to defend against the top players in the league while he develops. Who was he learning to play the game from ?? I'd love too see a skilled RH dman with the Sedin's. The Sedin's were able to make Yanick Weber look good on the PP. Schultz >>>>>>> Weber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I wouldn't mind Schutlz as a low cost flyer on a reclamation project. As long as there isn't much going back. It'll be interesting to see if he can be re-signed for less than his current contract, which I think is a possibility. It would also impact what type of return we could target for Hammer/Vrbata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Found this ?? http://oilonwhyte.com/2016/02/09/edmonton-oilers-may-trade-justin-schultz-tonight/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeBee51 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I wonder if he regrets signing with Edmonton. Sure doesn't seem to have been a great career making decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 51 minutes ago, KelownaCanucksFan said: If it gets Higgins and Weber out of here would you say the same thing? I think not Junk for junk? whats so great about that? wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, LaBamba said: All this speculation because Justin Schultz sucks so bad he got scratched. I think that's probably the most likely reason. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 The rumours are swirling all over, based on the belief that Edmonton's been trying to trade him. Considering the Canuck's situation of late, sounds like a good partnership in trading troubled assets. Quote Likelihood of trade happening today: 4/10 Between now and the trade deadline Schultz will be traded; the likelihood of that happening is 9.9/10. Today though I don't know that it's very likely. Renaud Lavoie has broken stories in the past and knows plenty of things that we don't, but Todd McLellan's comments this morning certainly made it sound like Schultz's night off was a direct result of his play over the weekend. We'll have to wait and see. http://www.coppernblue.com/news-and-notes/2016/2/9/10952372/oilers-trade-rumour-justin-schultz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I would take Schultz Crappy contract If eberle came with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boddy604 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Wonder if a 1 for 1 Sbisa for Schultz trade would be considered? Similar cap hit. Similar risk defensively. Edmonton needs size and toughness, Vancouver needs offense from the back end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wash Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Schultz would be good with a veteran defenceman paired with him, Someone reliable defensively, like Hamhuis. Ah crap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 11 minutes ago, LaBamba said: All this speculation because Justin Schultz sucks so bad he got scratched. Id deal Higgins, Prust and Weber for him and a 3rd. Would give Edmonton veterans who haven't been in the losing oasis forever and we would land a local d man who has seen the sedins tear apart the oilers for the past few seasons. although he choose them over us I'm sure he's regretted it at times. He would be a project player but him + another young d prospect in a hammer deal would revamp our youth depth at d. he would probably sit every few games but I could see him and Hutton being a good pairing down the road. He was a young kid with talent who choose a terrible defensive team. He's just stunted I'm sure his game can be salvaged. We would need a contract extension in place though which would be difficult as I'm sure he wants to prove he's worth more then 800k-1.5m a year. Medium risk, medium high reward? donno just my thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Or maybe he's just been scratched because he sucks and needs a night in the press box to see where he is making errors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 If I were to guess though they would probably want a young d man back like a Briseois; too which I say no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Wash said: Schultz would be good with a veteran defenceman paired with him, Someone reliable defensively, like Hamhuis. Ah crap.... I agree, we can retain him if say Sbisa is the player moved the other way, or if hamhuis gets moved we can resign in in july. So it is possible, I like that pairing myself. Then Hutton and Tanev, so moving Edler is possible imo, dallas would be a good fit and they has assets we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 17 minutes ago, theminister said: I wouldn't mind Schutlz as a low cost flyer on a reclamation project. As long as there isn't much going back. It'll be interesting to see if he can be re-signed for less than his current contract, which I think is a possibility. It would also impact what type of return we could target for Hammer/Vrbata. at the very last he is a PP specialist the canucks could desperately use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Wonder if a 1 for 1 Sbisa for Schultz trade would be considered? Similar cap hit. Similar risk defensively. Edmonton needs size and toughness, Vancouver needs offense from the back end. And we don't? Trading Sbisa for him takes our Charmin back end down to cotton candy softness. Without the stick. 11 minutes ago, Wash said: Schultz would be good with a veteran defenceman paired with him, Someone reliable defensively, like Hamhuis. Ah crap.... And that's a problem, alright. Schultz + Edler (ulp) Schultz + Sbisa (double ulp) Schultz + Hutton (how much more can a rookie handle?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, stawns said: at the very last he is a PP specialist the canucks could desperately use. Yup Benning call up your old buddy and make a deal happen, but only if its you buying low like Sven. Except we dont wanna move a 2nd rounder for him we wanna send salary back to edmonton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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