Junkyard Dog Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 We are too soft even today. Can't you guys realize that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: He would do worse on our team. We don't have the size to allow him to flourish. It is pretty simple to see. Not saying Ehlers is weak but he would do better vs St. Louis/LA/SJS/ANA/CHI on the jets than he would with us. You should apply to Hogwarts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, peaches5 said: You aren't listening. It will be a lot easier to find another Virtanen than Ehlers in the draft. Watch Winnipeg play, the kid is unreal and it has nothing to do with Winnipeg or his linemates. The kid dances around players, has a canon of a wrist shot and doesn't look soft or out of place at all. Don't say that he's not soft because CDC won't have anymore reasons to say that JV is better! 3 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: He wouldn't be able to do that on our team. LOL. Nostradamus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 a Just now, The 5th Line said: We can't score enough goals to get to the playoffs Not our year this year. Injuries, inexperience and disappointing veterans are a cause for that. Just now, guntrix said: You should apply to Hogwarts. Why? I am talking hockey, I have nothing against you do you have something against me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Guys how about keeping the talk in this thread to Mikael Granlund talk. cheers I like this player. A while back, can't remember if it was this year or last I remember saying why can't we have a kid like this in our system. He's a smart, playmaking, versatile C, LW who can put up offense or play a defensive game. This is a sure fire NHLer guys. Glad to get him for a decent prospect who may or may not ever become a bona fide NHLer'. Now remember this is a very young player. He's only 22 and he'll take a couple of years to grow into a solid NHLer. But this is a good trade and we're getting a good player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: We are too soft even today. Can't you guys realize that? I would like to point out that Dallas and Tampa are both extremely soft teams yet there are two of the better teams in the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Junkyard Dog said: He wouldn't be able to do that on our team. Yea you're right so we should pass on guys like Patrick Kane and go after guys like Lucic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) He kicked Tyson Barrie's ass in a fight a couple weeks back too. Edited February 23, 2016 by peaches5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Just now, peaches5 said: Yea you're right so we should pass on guys like Patrick Kane and go after guys like Lucic. If Kane is available take him. Lucic can be acquired in the 2nd round. Not saying we shouldn't have skill, their should be a balance, but Virtanen's skill set is hard to pass up and fits our mold. Sorry if you don't have the patience for him to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Gstank29 said: I would like to point out that Dallas and Tampa are both extremely soft teams yet there are two of the better teams in the NHL Both those teams are loaded with loaded with skill yes but both those teams have gotten walked over bigger teams in the playoffs. You gotta have a balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 minute ago, peaches5 said: Yea you're right so we should pass on guys like Patrick Kane and go after guys like Lucic. Patrick Kane is not soft! He's like any player (the twins too) who needs the puck on his stick to be elite. He is a target while he has the puck. He takes all kinds of crap, from chops, to guys running at him. He has a lot of character (courage) to dominate the way he does. We want elite skill combined with character (toughness) just like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, peaches5 said: He kicked Tyson Barrie's ass in a fight a couple weeks back too. Not saying he's soft but the team around him is better suited to have his skillset than ours. Jets size can create space for him to flourish. We don't have that quality yet Edit: Also it is Tyson &^@#ing Barrie. Edited February 23, 2016 by Junkyard Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: If Kane is available take him. Lucic can be acquired in the 2nd round. Not saying we shouldn't have skill, their should be a balance, but Virtanen's skill set is hard to pass up and fits our mold. Sorry if you don't have the patience for him to develop. Virtanen is not a skilled player. He is not known for his skilled play. He is known for quite the opposite a player who drives down the wing and shoots and shoots and crashes the net. He was and is a horrible passer and most scouts had him ranked 10th. Ehlers on the other hand was one of the most skilled players in the draft but his size was the negative and people thought he mooched off Drouin which has proven not to be the case. Skill wise in the draft he was ranked 6th instead we took a less skilled local kid who had size. Edited February 23, 2016 by peaches5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Not saying he's soft but the team around him is better suited to have his skillset than ours. Jets size can create space for him to flourish. We don't have that quality yet Edit: Also it is Tyson &^@#ing Barrie. What part don't you understand? Ehlers is a player you build a team around. Virtanen is not. We could have had a bonafide young top 6 forward in our system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Just now, peaches5 said: Virtanen is not a skilled player. He is not known for his skilled play. He is known for quite the opposite a player who drives down the wing and shots and shots and crashes the net. He was and is a horrible passer and most scouts had him ranked 10th. Ehlers on the other hand was one of the most skilled players in the draft but his size was the negative and people thought he mooched off Drouin which has proven not to be the case. Skill wise in the draft he was ranked 6th instead we took a less skilled local kid who had size. Ehlers has NHL skill and will always be more skilled than Virtanen offensively. Virtanen needs to develop his NHL skillset. It takes time. That's fair to say no? Not many power forwards can come in like Landeskog and light up the league right away. What I can tell you is that he will still be a useful player when he's not scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 minute ago, peaches5 said: What part don't you understand? Ehlers is a player you build a team around. Virtanen is not. We could have had a bonafide young top 6 forward in our system. What part don't you understand? Jets = better team built for Ehlers. Canucks = soft team that isn't suited. We needed size and we got that size with skill in Virtanen. It just take time for the type of player he is to develop. He won't be the type of player that makes flashy plays. We are not going to be a team full of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 41 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Prust and Higgins have been waived and our GM has tried to move them. Granlund will be around a lot longer than either of them. Unless Granlund is exposed to waivers next year and lost to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 If you guys don't like the way this team is being built then go watch Dallas or Tampa like Gstank mentioned. Or learn to accept the type of team that's trying to be built. It is pointless to bicker and complain about something that cannot be changed or thwarted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Junkyard Dog said: Ehlers has NHL skill and will always be more skilled than Virtanen offensively. Virtanen needs to develop his NHL skillset. It takes time. That's fair to say no? Not many power forwards can come in like Landeskog and light up the league right away. What I can tell you is that he will still be a useful player when he's not scoring. You're missing the point. Ehlers > Virtanen. Ehlers is much harder to draft than Virtanen. You're saying Jake needs more time to develop well Ehlers only needed half an NHL season to turn into a top 6 forward. He is going to the face of Jets for years to come. Virtanen will never be good enough to be the face of Vancouver and if he is then you're team is in big trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: Unless Granlund is exposed to waivers next year and lost to us The plan is to probably bring him up to the main roster next year I assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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