TheRussianRocket. Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 To Tampa Bay: Edler To Vancouver: Drouin + Carle @50% retained [Edler waives to go to top contender and enjoy the sun] To Montreal: Hansen + Burrows @50% retained To Vancouver: 2nd + 4th round picks [Montreal gets much needed versatile depth wingers] To Florida: 1st overall aka Matthews + Hamhuis UFA rights + McCann To Vancouver: Barkov + Ekblad [Florida gets the next Barkov, a top prospect who will be a stud, and a capable dman] To Islander: Sbisa + Miller To Vancouver: Hamonic [Goaltending is a weak point and why Isles suck. Miller will stabilize the crease. Get a replacement dman in Sbisa and Hamonic comes home to western Canada] To Toronto: Horvat To Vancouver: Nylander [Hunter and TO get a former London Knight. Know him inside out, will get the most out of him, and make it easier to play with guys like Marner and Tkachuk/Juolevi also fellow Knights] To Anyone: Dorsett + 3rd round pick To Vancouver: Anything [Cap move to free up salary which will be used to sign key free agent] Sign: Stamkos 9x$9m per Okposo 6x$5.5m per Lucic 6x$5m per Russell 4x$4m per Reimer 2x$2.5m per 2016 OPENING DAY LINEUP Drouin-Stamkos-Rodin Baertschi-Barkov-Okposo Dank-Hank-Lucic Etem-Nylander-Virtanen Gaunce Russell-Ekblad Tryamkin-Tanev Hutton-Hamonic Carle, Subban, Pedan, Biega Markstrom-Reimer PS, would loved to have signed Ladd or Eriksson but not enough cap space and there would be no room for them to have a roster spot anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 You should read more realistic proposals, like this one: before posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Rocket, let's pretend I am Steven Stamkos. How are you going to sell me on Vancouver other than a big bag of money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 1 minute ago, nuckin_futz said: Rocket, let's pretend I am Steven Stamkos. How are you going to sell me on Vancouver other than a big bag of money? Massive endorsement deals which give him more than his yearly hockey salary and essentially has him making $20m+ a year. Pretty much what any team will be offering him. Not to mention we would be the best Canadian team by far and a top team in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Finally, something I can get behind> Yes to all deals, m8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, TheRussianRocket. said: Massive endorsement deals which give him more than his yearly hockey salary and essentially has him making $20m+ a year. Pretty much what any team will be offering him. Not to mention we would be the best Canadian team by far and a top team in the NHL. He can get an endorsement deal anywhere. And we definitely are not the most appealing Canadian team in terms of the free agent market. Toronto is his hometown, has a better prospect pool, more cap space, and further ahead in their rebuild. Also, your "top team in the NHL" claim is based off wild trades that with the exception of #2 and maybe #1, have absolutely no chance of happening. Then you have every free agent taking a discount price to sign with the Canucks even though every single player, except Russell, has a higher rumored value in the free agent market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazmanian Devil Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, Caboose said: You should read more realistic proposals, like this one: before posting. This bloke stole my other proposal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, TheRussianRocket. said: Massive endorsement deals which give him more than his yearly hockey salary and essentially has him making $20m+ a year. Pretty much what any team will be offering him. Not to mention we would be the best Canadian team by far and a top team in the NHL. With whom do I get these endorsement deals? Who will want to endorse me when I play 70% of my games when everyone on the east coast is asleep? My agent says you're dreaming. Do I have to play with Drouin? That little puke who walked away from all his teammates. And broke his word/contract to the team. Then came sniveling back. Doesn't Vancouver endure travel as bad as Tampa? If I am going to a new team wouldn't I want to travel less? That's a very ambitious plan you put together for a new lineup. How will all these new guys gel together. Is Willie D still coach? Is he up for that challenge? I heard the owner there likes to muck around in hockey decisions when he's really a real estate guy. Should I be concerned about that? Aren't the fans and media kind of nuts there? Doesn't it rain all the friggin time in Vancouver? That would be a big change from Tampa where I can wear shorts to the rink in January. I have no ties to Vancouver. All my buddies are in Tampa or Ontario where my family is. Maybe try that Lucic guy I hear he's from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said: He can get an endorsement deal anywhere. And we definitely are not the most appealing Canadian team in terms of the free agent market. Toronto is his hometown, has a better prospect pool, more cap space, and further ahead in their rebuild. Also, your "top team in the NHL" claim is based off wild trades that with the exception of #2 and maybe #1, have absolutely no chance of happening. Then you have every free agent taking a discount price to sign with the Canucks even though every single player, except Russell, has a higher rumored value in the free agent market. Actually oddsmakers have Canucks high on the list of places Stamkos would go to. Earlier this year TSN and Sportsnet both had a piece on it with oddsmakers placing Vancouver in the top 5 likeliest destinations for Stamkos to land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Just now, TheRussianRocket. said: Actually oddsmakers have Canucks high on the list of places Stamkos would go to. Earlier this year TSN and Sportsnet both had a piece on it with oddsmakers placing Vancouver in the top 5 likeliest destinations for Stamkos to land. Who cares? I bet TSN had every single Canadian franchise listed for possible Stamkos destinations, and then Darren Dreger reported that "Stamkos might sign in Canada, or he might not. Either way, one of those situations will happen." What is the logic he would come here besides that he is Canadian? Because that myth has long been eradicated with past Canadian free agents in recent years. Let's not even compare our situation to Toronto's situation anymore because if JB offered the same contract to Stamkos that Lou did, I have no doubt that he would take the Toronto one. If Tampa offered him the same contract as we did, why would he not resign there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 You lost me at trading Horvat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Balboa Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 i stopped reading when I saw we were trading Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I think we'd have to offer Stamkos at least $11 million a year to get him to think long and hard about it. Here's something I came up with: Cap goes up $2.6 million Traded/Released: Higgins Burrows Hamhuis Vrbata Prust Bartkowski Vey Total out (not including current cap space): $22,250,000 Draft Chychrun, Benson, Ronning* Re-sign: Sven Baertschi: 3 years, $2 million per Emerson Etem: 2 years, $900K per Markus Granlund: 2 years, $800K per Anton Rodin: 1 year, $950K Cap for free agency: $22,907,916 Signings: Steven Stamkos: 7 years, $11.5 million per Milan Lucic: 7 years, $6 million per Dan Hamhuis: 2 years, $2.75 million per Remaining cap: $1,602,083 Lucic - Stamkos - Sutter Sedin - Sedin - Rödin Baertschi - Horvat - Virtanen Etem - Granlund - Hansen Dorsett/Grenier Edler - Tanev Hutton - Hamhuis Sbisa - Tryamkin Pedan, Biega Miller Markstrom I'm part of the group that thinks if we have a real shot at landing Stamkos, we need to throw the bank at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Hahaha woah edgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Pears said: I think we'd have to offer Stamkos at least $11 million a year to get him to think long and hard about it. Here's something I came up with: Cap goes up $2.6 million Traded/Released: Higgins Burrows Hamhuis Vrbata Prust Bartkowski Vey Total out: $22,250,000 Draft Chychrun, Benson, Ronning* Re-sign: Sven Baertschi: 3 years, $2 million per Emerson Etem: 2 years, $900K per Markus Granlund: 2 years, $800K per Anton Rodin: 1 year, $950K Cap for free agency: $22,907,916 Signings: Steven Stamkos: 7 years, $11.5 million per Milan Lucic: 7 years, $6 million per Dan Hamhuis: 2 years, $2.75 million per Remaining cap: $1,602,083 Lucic - Stamkos - Sutter Sedin - Sedin - Rödin Baertschi - Horvat - Virtanen Etem - Granlund - Hansen Dorsett/Grenier Edler - Tanev Hutton - Hamhuis Sbisa - Tryamkin Pedan, Biega Miller Markstrom Excellent post. This would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Tampa likely says no to that deal Depth wingers is the one thing Montreal DOESN'T need, They say no The Islanders want a similar player to Hamonic in return. They say No Florida laughs and says no. (Why exchange Barkov for Mathews, and Ekblad is worth Way more than Hamhui's rights and McCann) Toronto might say yes, but I doubt it You can't offer 9 years to Stamkos, max you can go is 7, and that's not enough money Vancouver is a cellar dweller, not a likely destination for 5 of the top UFA's this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, Baer. said: Hahaha woah edgy Glad you like it. I don't get why so many people are opposed to making the team better with the moves proposed. Makes the team better 10 fold. Guess some people just like looking at the glass half empty :[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberries Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 1st and 2nd trades are good. Good value for both. 3rd trade I don't see happening. Ekblad is already a number 1 stud and Barkov is a number 1 centre as well. Furthermore, they love Ekblad and barkov in Florida and have a great thing going. Don't see them breaking that up. The Hamonic trade we are under paying by a ton and Miller wouldn't waive. 4th trade I wouldn't make. I like Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 to much and would take to long so would never get done at all!!!Good if these trades could happen but to many variables! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanisleryan Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Wouldn't be easier just to relocate our team somewhere else than start a new expansion team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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