Provost Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, CaptainCanuck001 said: FWIW Button has us taking Logan Brown in his post-lottery mock draft. I am OK with that, as long as it is actually us trading way down for that. I fear we repeat the Virtanen situation where we pick "our guy" with our pick, even though he would be available several spots later (we could have probably gotten Virtanen at 10-12). We have enough holes and the players at 5-12 are so closely packed in terms of talent and potential, trading down is a reasonable strategy. You make a list of 5 or so guys you are fine with using your pick for (say Tkachuk, Juolevi, Nylander, Brown, Sergachev, Dubois, Bean). As long as at least two of them are on the board, you trade down and add an asset like a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Repeated that process until there are only a couple of those names left on the board and then take them. You could easily trade down 2-4 times and add that many high picks to the organization. Suddenly you stock your cupboards quite a bit more and Benning can use his scouting know how to find a couple more gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCanuck001 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Provost said: I am OK with that, as long as it is actually us trading way down for that. I fear we repeat the Virtanen situation where we pick "our guy" with our pick, even though he would be available several spots later (we could have probably gotten Virtanen at 10-12). We have enough holes and the players at 5-12 are so closely packed in terms of talent and potential, trading down is a reasonable strategy. You make a list of 5 or so guys you are fine with using your pick for (say Tkachuk, Juolevi, Nylander, Brown, Sergachev, Dubois, Bean). As long as at least two of them are on the board, you trade down and add an asset like a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Repeated that process until there are only a couple of those names left on the board and then take them. You could easily trade down 2-4 times and add that many high picks to the organization. Suddenly you stock your cupboards quite a bit more and Benning can use his scouting know how to find a couple more gems. I feel the same way, no way we take Brown at 5, but so have a feeling if we trade down we are taking a a defenseman for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 hours ago, jstewboy said: The 5th pick in a very deep draft is nothing? Ya ok. every couple years they say is a deep draft.. and majority of those ends up 2nd/3rd liners at best.. those top elite talents usually comes from the top 3, and unfortunately we didn't get it.. and now we pray to hit the jackpot one of our prospect will miraculously become a top line producing player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 figured that we didn't win top three. ah well. most of us didn't expect to anyways. Winnipeg landing the second. seriously.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two drink minimum Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Gooseberries said: So embarrassing. Come to the conclusion today that it's us against the world. We will be handed nothing. Hey man, it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstewboy Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: every couple years they say is a deep draft.. and majority of those ends up 2nd/3rd liners at best.. those top elite talents usually comes from the top 3, and unfortunately we didn't get it.. and now we pray to hit the jackpot one of our prospect will miraculously become a top line producing player The pessimism is strong. Are you part of the Vancouver Media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two drink minimum Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 42 minutes ago, CANUCK-EXPRESS said: Tkachuk, Dubois, Juolevi. doesn't matter I know that there is less of a need at winger but it doesn't seem as though the d-men in this draft are special talents. I go with a talented forward like Tkachuk or trade the pick for an established top 4 d man or top 6 center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 If its not Dubois or Tkachuk I'd hope they trade down 3 or 4 spots and take one of Chychrun, Juolevi or Sergachev there. If they picked one of those dmen who probably aren't BPA would be a waste. Maximize assets don't lose value like we did on trade deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanisleryan Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Dubois and move McCann and 33rd for maybe Carolinas 13th??....Pick up a D...Jake Bean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungfudru Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 would you guys trade the 5th for Sam Reinhart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Kungfudru said: would you guys trade the 5th for Sam Reinhart? No... well maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungfudru Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just now, canucklehead44 said: No I would. he Scored 20 goals last year and can be a number 1 C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, Kungfudru said: would you guys trade the 5th for Sam Reinhart? Buffalo definitely wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon Solo Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I like Logan Brown a lot but jeez taking him 5th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kungfudru Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just now, Time Lord said: Buffalo definitely wouldn't. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 If Tkachuk is available at 5, I can imagine Arizona having some interest. American born player who plays on a line with their current top prospect Christian Dvorak... Arizona also has a 22nd pick available. 5+33 from Vancouver for 7+22 from Arizona? Looking at the bottom of the first round, it looks pretty terrible so this could be a fair trade. We take one of the 3 dmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Tyson Barrie for 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedinMadness Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 problem with trading down is you risk that teams ahead of you aren't going to do the same thing you want to. you must shuffle the deck and just take a dman if thats what they want at 5th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 How about trading our pick for RNH? He's already established and only 23. Oilers can get a defenseman and a winger with the 4 and 5 pick. Ja feel? Speed up the rebuild quite a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 My money would be on Juolevi unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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