Benning on Team 1040 December 9

[bohoforpresident]

25 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

No, fans just need to stop listening to the moronic media lol. 

Media probably plagiarizes this thread for articles every day.

 

...We are the media

 

*Head explodes

[LaBamba]

1 hour ago, Hutton Wink said:

holes have been firlled.

 

Filled with what exactly? I swear you guys act like this team is the Stanley cup favourites or something. It's like "OH YA, LOOK AT GUDBRANSON!!!"  Gillis gap is now the Benning mountain. High five @oldnews high five @J.R.

 

In reality, it's sad that you have to tell me to look at Gudbranson. Otherwise I'm not noticing him. 

[Gaudette Celly]

1 minute ago, LaBamba said:

 

Filled with what exactly? I swear you guys act like this team is the Stanley cup favourites or something. It's like "OH YA, LOOK AT GUDBRANSON!!!"  Gillis gap is now the Benning mountain. High five @oldnews high five @J.R.

 

In reality, it's sad that you have to tell me to look at Gudbranson. Otherwise I'm not noticing him. 

 

How about considering what the roster would look like had the trades not been made.  No Dorsett, Baertschi, Granlund, Gudbranson, and Pedan but instead Jensen, Shinkaruk, Grenier, McEneny, and Subban?  You'd really prefer that?  You also seem unable to grasp the concept of placeholders and upgrades.

[spook007]

13 hours ago, Hutton Wink said:

Jim Benning's job is to build this team.  Not placate fans and the media.  Not to blow sunshine up their behinds.  Not to take advice from people who don't have a clue about how to run a sports franchise let alone build a good roster.  He was hired and is being paid to build a successful competitive team whether any of you like or agree with the process or not, and that isn't going to change, especially after just 2.5 years in.

This.... 

And so far they have been doing exactly what they said they would be doing all along... 

Thank you JB.

[Harvey Spector]

23 minutes ago, LaBamba said:

 

Oh look! infinity +1! didn't even think it was possible but here we are. 

That's how many times I have seen this post. 

 

Has it hit -40 yet?  Stay safe my friend...  

[wallstreetamigo]

15 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said:

 

How about considering what the roster would look like had the trades not been made.  No Dorsett, Baertschi, Granlund, Gudbranson, and Pedan but instead Jensen, Shinkaruk, Grenier, McEneny, and Subban?  You'd really prefer that?  You also seem unable to grasp the concept of placeholders and upgrades.

 

Fair comment but there have been a lot of placeholder and/or promising younger players over the past few years who could have been had for nothing but a contract too. 

 

We could have likely found upgrades over every one of those players other than Gudbranson and possibly Baertschi.

 

I don't disagree with the moves on a whole but free players plus those picks was another option that would have put us in a better overall position.

[LaBamba]

35 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said:

 

How about considering what the roster would look like had the trades not been made.  No Dorsett, Baertschi, Granlund, Gudbranson, and Pedan but instead Jensen, Shinkaruk, Grenier, McEneny, and Subban?  You'd really prefer that?  You also seem unable to grasp the concept of placeholders and upgrades.

 

From last to 10th last. Mission accomplished 

[LaBamba]

28 minutes ago, Harvey Spector said:

 

Has it hit -40 yet?  Stay safe my friend...  

 

Only -32 today. Spring is in the air. 

[RRypien37]

Bennington 9000. 

[LaBamba]

16 hours ago, J.R. said:

He also said he won't ask any NTC's to waive. That does not = not trading any NTC's.

 

You just won't give up on this hey? We don't trade UFA's at the deadline in Vancouver, get over it. 

 

He said he isn't asking his NTC's to waive yet he wants to acquire picks. He also said he is monitoring the expansion situation and he expects some movement with expansion draft motives. This can only mean 2 things. He hasn't given any thought to what he said or He is moving one of Hansen, Granlund or Baertschi for draft picks. Maybe even a good defender. Maybe he is thinking about cashing in Markstrom and resigning Miller. Who knows?

 

Cause really. What are you going to get for Burrows? A 4th? You're going to trade a iconic Canuck for a 4th?

 

I think this will be a very unique deadline because the players being moved won't be UFA's

[messier's_elbow]

13 minutes ago, LaBamba said:

 

You just won't give up on this hey? We don't trade UFA's at the deadline in Vancouver, get over it. 

 

He said he isn't asking his NTC's to waive yet he wants to acquire picks. He also said he is monitoring the expansion situation and he expects some movement with expansion draft motives. This can only mean 2 things. He hasn't given any thought to what he said or He is moving one of Hansen, Granlund or Baertschi for draft picks. Maybe even a good defender. Maybe he is thinking about cashing in Markstrom and resigning Miller. Who knows?

 

Cause really. What are you going to get for Burrows? A 4th? You're going to trade a iconic Canuck for a 4th?

 

I think this will be a very unique deadline because the players being moved won't be UFA's

If Burrows keeps this up I think he's worth a 3rd. He's playing like a second liner. 

[messier's_elbow]

57 minutes ago, RRypien37 said:

Bennington 9000. 

Didn't they sing that song "drinking in LA"? 

[RRypien37]

Just now, messier's_elbow said:

Didn't they sing that song "drinking in LA"? 

 

I have absolutely no idea. I just felt like saying that. 

[appleboy]

9 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said:

 

Actually there are 6. Daniel, Henrik, Burrows, Edler, Hansen, and Tanev.

 

Thats 1/3 of an iced team btw. It is still a significant amount.

 

Its not a question of how many there are or even that they are still here. I like all of them I just don't like the fact that they are still being treated as the ones who will be built around and driving the team until the Sedins are gone. I disagree that they are really driving the team's recent better play.

 

The Sedins are offensive specialists now who are good when they are on but they aren't on as often anymore. They are still treated as the engine that drives the offense and PP but that engine now stalls a lot more than it used to.

 

Edler is a decent #2 guy and would be a fantastic #3. He unfortunately is still used as a #1 guy here. It's not a coincidence that our PP started becoming much more effective when he got injured. He just doesn't have the offensive ability he used to. He can eat minutes but they are not always effective minutes, just like the Sedins now.

 

Burrows on a one year deal at a million is a signing I would make every July 1 until he can't play anymore. He is a great mentor and I am glad we still have him.

 

Hansen is also great and I would like to keep him too. Him as the second line winger on the Sedin line until they retire or sign elsewhere would be great. Just not as our 1st line go to guys.

 

Tanev is a guy who is a great defensive player but we really haven't missed all that much if I am being honest. He is getting pretty injury prone and only has one dimension to his game. It's a great one dimension though but I think he is expendable if he can get us a top scorer.

I doubt anyone in this organization see them as players to be built around. They are all looked as stop gaps to the next core. Management feels that they are worth more here tutoring the youth in the ways of the force.

You must see the common sense in that. Benning is a very solid hockey man and both him and Linden should understand what young players go though.

[ice orca]

6 hours ago, LaBamba said:

 

Only -32 today. Spring is in the air. 

-33 here and i got to work in it all weekend.

[aGENT]

5 hours ago, LaBamba said:

 

You just won't give up on this hey? We don't trade UFA's at the deadline in Vancouver, get over it. 

 

He said he isn't asking his NTC's to waive yet he wants to acquire picks. He also said he is monitoring the expansion situation and he expects some movement with expansion draft motives. This can only mean 2 things. He hasn't given any thought to what he said or He is moving one of Hansen, Granlund or Baertschi for draft picks. Maybe even a good defender. Maybe he is thinking about cashing in Markstrom and resigning Miller. Who knows?

 

Cause really. What are you going to get for Burrows? A 4th? You're going to trade a iconic Canuck for a 4th?

 

I think this will be a very unique deadline because the players being moved won't be UFA's

 

With how Burr is playing, he might actually fetch as much as a late 2nd actually. Or could be a sweetener in a bigger package. 

 

He would of course have to ask to be moved for a chance at a cup, which is precisely my point. 

[Grumpy Canuckat]

9 hours ago, bohoforpresident said:

So anyone who has made the transition from prospect to regular nhler is too old to be a part of a future contender? our team has to be made up entirely of prospects and draft picks?

 

First line

LW - unknown PROSPECT

C - 2017 DRAFT PICK

RW - 2018 DRAFT PICK

 

I sure hope our 2018 2nd round draft pick that we haven't picked yet lights it up tonight. Lol

 

I don't like the LE signing btw either but I do think he will be effective at least until his MTC kicks in. Even then we would probably have to be very accommodating to trade him at that point. Hiccup.

Who did we trade for that is good enough to be on the first line?  Vey?  Dorsett?  Baertschi?  Give me those picks back.  You can sign guys like them in free agency.  None of the picks we traded away have helped the team be the playoff team management wanted them to be. 

 

[Grumpy Canuckat]

9 hours ago, oldnews said:

Why have the Leafs kept 30 somethings like Bozak, Komarov, Hunwick, Polak....? 

 

Overpay a guy like Martin for 4 years when a young guy could have his spot....  Robidas?  Really?  5 years of retained Kessel? 

 

Aren't they "rebuilding"?

 

You don't keep old assets like those unless you're trying to "win now".  Only Bozak has a LNTC (of 12 teams).  Pretty much free to move the whole lot.  Wasting roster spots that could go to the kidz.   So confusing.

Well they also have 3 different rookies that have more points than all our rookies combined.  Our top rookie would be 7th in rookie scoring on their team.  They also had a ton more draft picks last couple of years compared to Vancouver and the draft coming up too.  If they were to "win now" it would be because of their rookies, not past their prime vets.  You're talking like Toronto has been bleeding draft picks to bring in their old guys.  Apples oranges.  Shanahan from the start was talking rebuild.  Linden from the start was talking competitive environment & playoffs.  Different philosophies completely. 

[oldnews]

21 minutes ago, Grumpy Canuckat said:

 

that's all very interesting - and irrelevent. 

they're rebuilding - why keep the vets around?  don't they know howda do it right?

[hlinkas wrister]

4 minutes ago, oldnews said:

that's all very interesting - and irrelevent. 

they're rebuilding - why keep the vets around?  don't they know howda do it right?

Exactly, Shanaplan engaged? Hey I know, Maybe instead of signing win-now vets to play with the kids we should get a young, fancy stats GM like Chayka who obviously would know that teams who are rebuilding should just let the kids play. There's no way he would go out and sign 33 year old Alex Goligoski for 5 years at almost 6 AAV, right?