Sedintwinpowersactivate Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, cyoung said: It would be a colossal mistake to have a player of EPs caliber on the wing. Absolute puck hound like him should always be Down the middle. Didn't he crush the SHL as a winger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Sedintwinpowersactivate said: Didn't he crush the SHL as a winger? He did...but he's crushing the NHL as a centerman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Setyoureyesontheprize said: If the lottery doesn’t work out and we sit at 6th overall, should really consider moving up to the 2 spot to grab Kakko. We need top young talent to play with Horvat and Pettersson. Teams don't trade away the 2nd overall pick in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TGokou Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: Turcotte isn't listed because he didn't play the minimum games threshold but if he did he'd be #1 on the list. He's my guy if Byram and the big two are off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Jack Hughes has the most points in USDP history. He's my number 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 If we dont win the Lottery and get 1 of Hughes or Kakko, I would be all for us trading this years 1st if a high end RHD were to be available, or highly skilled winger even. If the team wants to try and do this accelerated reTool, I dont call it a rebuild with what we have done then try to pry Ristolainen from Buffalo or someone who can help us now, something pick 5-9 wont be able to do most likely. It is risky to maybe do a trade like that but I think it is time for JB to step up, make a bold decision and put a stamp on his tenure here and legit try to improve this team via trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: If we dont win the Lottery and get 1 of Hughes or Kakko, I would be all for us trading this years 1st if a high end RHD were to be available, or highly skilled winger even. If the team wants to try and do this accelerated reTool, I dont call it a rebuild with what we have done then try to pry Ristolainen from Buffalo or someone who can help us now, something pick 5-9 wont be able to do most likely. It is risky to maybe do a trade like that but I think it is time for JB to step up, make a bold decision and put a stamp on his tenure here and legit try to improve this team via trade. Go read the Buffalo Sabre board a bit. A lot of Buffalo fans want Risto gone and they think quite poorly of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 48 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: If we dont win the Lottery and get 1 of Hughes or Kakko, I would be all for us trading this years 1st if a high end RHD were to be available, or highly skilled winger even. If the team wants to try and do this accelerated reTool, I dont call it a rebuild with what we have done then try to pry Ristolainen from Buffalo or someone who can help us now, something pick 5-9 wont be able to do most likely. It is risky to maybe do a trade like that but I think it is time for JB to step up, make a bold decision and put a stamp on his tenure here and legit try to improve this team via trade. Risto isn't elite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 46 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: Go read the Buffalo Sabre board a bit. A lot of Buffalo fans want Risto gone and they think quite poorly of him. It's probably the -137 in 6 seasons ( -35 this season ). However, CDC has always been very understanding of negative plus/ minus stats ! He'd be tied to the whipping post pretty quickly ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cyoung Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Horvat is a Boss said: So filthy...he's making a strong case to slot up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 5 hours ago, SingleThorn said: It's probably the -137 in 6 seasons ( -35 this season ). However, CDC has always been very understanding of negative plus/ minus stats ! He'd be tied to the whipping post pretty quickly ! Could Risto, who I really like TBH, another Guddy - a guy we covet, but who really isn’t that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: Could Risto, who I really like TBH, another Guddy - a guy we covet, but who really isn’t that good? I think he should be our primary target via trade. PP point getter with size and some edge. Pair him with Edler and eventually Juolevi and you have something. Not sure I buy into the +/- as he has been in Buffalo and they have underperformed overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 x-Pettersson-Kakko sounds delicious. Both control the puck so well in the offensive zone; they use stick-handling, agility and finesse to open up passing + shooting lanes and are so good at movement and cycling. They have great vision and hockey IQs on top of all their physical and technical attributes. Kakko also has an element of physicality he employs when protecting the puck, doing board-work, etc., which I think would work very with Petey's style and own strengths along the boards and in the corners. They're both elite playmakers who don't make the mistake of passing too much--they shoot and score and are good at these things. They're tricky players who can outwit and outskill defenders on the regular. In the land of implausible possibilities, us drafting Kakko this year is one of my favourites. Playing together--especially if scoring doesn't decline again--the two could easily become 100-point players in a few years. Think of a Datsyuk-Forsberg line because that's what ur getting. We could also--as I think his Liigga team has been trying to do--develop him as a centre and run EP, KK and Bo down the middle. I'm salivating. I pray for KK but would be willing to settle for Hughes or Byram. Bowen in particular would go a long way to helping our defensive corps, and I've always been a fan of building from the net out. I'm not convinced, aside from Hughes, that we have even one defensive prospect who is likely to become a #1 or #2 defenceman at the NHL level. Woo is promising but unproven (and likely doesn't have 1st-pairing potential on a contender), Juolevi could still become a reliable #4 guy and possible PP specialist but also might not even reach that, Rathbone isn't gonna save us but could become serviceable depending on the role he's assigned... I mean, we finally have a player who could be the #1 defencemen this team has never had, but why not get greedy and go for another? I really think teams in the running for a championship should ideally have a few #1-2 guys on the blue line. There are only 6 defensive slots, defencemen have higher TOI than forwards, and I think, for these reasons, defensive upgrades tend to have more value for a team than upgrades on offence. A team's depth runs down the lineup much more quickly when adding an elite dman than when adding a forward; look at what happened with the Habs (check Price's numbers) when Weber returned from injury this season. He pushed their worst d-man out of the lineup, allowed for the coach to put together better pairings that considered the 6 defender's individual strengths and weaknesses and chemistry with their colleagues, and the team immediately became much better. Byram absolutely has top-pairing upside. His numbers are fantastic, and he's not playing on a particularly good team. He's scored more in his draft year than Woo in his d+1 without Woo's benefit of playing with multiple 100-point players. People argue that it's best to draft the BPA (which could very well be Byram if he's available when we're picking), but I think there are good arguments to draft based on positional need depending on the exact situation/context. long rambling post and we're probably getting none of the players it mentions lol, sorry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 15 hours ago, BPA said: Any winger to play with Horvat. Username checks out... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Seriously, this is from last year as well. This guy no doubt in my mind is the best player in the draft. Slot Hughes with Petey and you've got yourselves an electrifying duo for the next 15 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 18 hours ago, vannuck59 said: Drafting and a little luck will turn this around JB needs to get creative . A second First would help. We desperately need some "outside the box thinking" from Jim and / or from someone within his team. I have something in mind but don't want to speak it out on CDC. Speaking it out might cause a "$&!#storm" CDC has never seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Wolfgang Durst said: We desperately need some "outside the box thinking" from Jim and / or from someone within his team. I have something in mind but don't want to speak it out on CDC. Speaking it out might cause a "$&!#storm" CDC has never seen. Oh no! Could it be that you're advocating to draft seider somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Readership Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 21 hours ago, vannuck59 said: Drafting and a little luck will turn this around JB needs to get creative . A second First would help. That would've helped the rebuild the last few drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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