Ryan Strome Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yeah I would say if they were to get Stone they would be the favourites out West to go to the final. Could challenge Tampa for the Cup with a big bruising team... I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, J-Dizzle said: Could you imagine if a Canucks GM made that move??? I feel for Ottawa fans on that one. Fans!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Can probably get a 1st rounder + 2 prospects for Duchene. Still a very painful loss considering the boatload they spent to trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, BlueDragon23 said: So Dorion moved their 1st round draft pick in which they would’ve been in the mix for Kappo Kakko or Jack Hughes.... for a guy they now are looking to trade??!? Are Chiapet and Dorion long lost cousins or something? Well, Chiarelli DID start his NHL career as assistant GM of the Sens...there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, J-Dizzle said: Could you imagine if a Canucks GM made that move??? I feel for Ottawa fans on that one. A friend of mine is a Sens fan and he said - "it physically hurts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Heffy Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Not a surprise that players aren't willing to sign for less in Ottawa when the owner is too cheap to even attempt to ice a competitive team. If there weren't rules against doing so by the NHLPA, Melnkyk would try to get the players to drive the Zamboni and have the healthy scratches work the concessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Dangles Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, luckylager said: So if the sens are as $&!#ty as they are this season, with those three on the roster.. Just imagine how bad they'll be next season without them. Add to that the fact I doubt any UFA will sign there I feel bad for the Sens fans in my family. That org is &^@#ed Well they will get a first and prospect for both Duchesne and Stone which speeds up their rebuild and it’s better for them to suck next year and have a shot at Alexis Lafrenierre. They won’t be bad for long, they do have Chabot, Tkachuk. Colin White, Ceci, Dzingel having a nice year and Logan Brown and few other nice pieces in their system. If they are able to get two “later playoff entrant” first rounders and good prospects they will be a decent team in 2 years after next years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, J-Dizzle said: Could you imagine if a Canucks GM made that move??? I feel for Ottawa fans on that one. Yup. They had the option of choosing which 1st rounder it was. They elected to hang onto the 2018 pick thinking they will do better next year. they are dead last right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Dangles Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Drakrami said: Can probably get a 1st rounder + 2 prospects for Duchene. Still a very painful loss considering the boatload they spent to trade for him. I could be wrong didn’t they trade for him the year after they went to the semi finals? I think so and they felt he was a missing piece. No one could have predicted the problems that occurred in the dressing room that imploded that team. If I’m right I think people are forgetting the timing, it’s not like Dorian made this trade when they were sucking did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Dangles Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: Yup. They had the option of choosing which 1st rounder it was. They elected to hang onto the 2018 pick thinking they will do better next year. they are dead last right now. Ya but they got Tkachuk and he’s a hell of a player and will be a star. It’s hard to say who will be better. End of the day, they gave up a first that hurt them but the one they used is a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Dangles Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Laine Scheifele Stone Oh my... Sportsnet said tonight given the western teams are heavy in on both Duchesne and Stone that it will set off an arms race at the deadline. It’s time for JB to make some deals and use this to his advantage. Hopefully Sutter is back soon and they move him and move Edler. As much as the latter will hurt, he needs to do it and then re-sign Eagle in the offseason. If that “arms race” happens, key defensive players will matter just as much as guys like Stone and Duschene as they become key shut down adds for the playoffs. Both Eddie and Sutter are high value defensive players and can shut down top lines and are great on the PK. And we know how important special teams are in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, 40Dangles said: Well they will get a first and prospect for both Duchesne and Stone which speeds up their rebuild and it’s better for them to suck next year and have a shot at Alexis Lafrenierre. They won’t be bad for long, they do have Chabot, Tkachuk. Colin White, Ceci, Dzingel having a nice year and Logan Brown and few other nice pieces in their system. If they are able to get two “later playoff entrant” first rounders and good prospects they will be a decent team in 2 years after next years draft. How's that game plan been working out for the Oilers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Dangles Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, luckylager said: How's that game plan been working out for the Oilers? They still have some decent vets. I think you’re ignoring this wasn’t an “intentional” tank. It’s a mess due to the locker room that just gutted their team. Same reason many are saying move Edler is why you make this trade. If those guys want to re-sign in the offseason they can but you’re screwed right now and in the future and have some high value assets you can move to address that. Using those chips / assets to advance the rebuild is smart. They’ve already got first draft lottery position (which goes to colorado), nothing is changing that. Why not do what you can to improve and at least get a couple first rounders and prospects back? It’s stupid not to. The Duchesne trade is a sunk cost, at least try to salvage something from it. And they can salvage a lot, Chabot went 18th, Pasternak went 20+. Boeser went 20+. Those picks can be franchise changers if they pick right and they NEED them. You have two of the highest value rentals in the league, no first rounder, are going to win the lottery (and not get the pick) and you think they’re playing the Edmonton game? Dude wake up, if there’s ever a time for asset management it’s now for Ottawa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, 40Dangles said: Sportsnet said tonight given the western teams are heavy in on both Duchesne and Stone that it will set off an arms race at the deadline. It’s time for JB to make some deals and use this to his advantage. Hopefully Sutter is back soon and they move him and move Edler. As much as the latter will hurt, he needs to do it and then re-sign Eagle in the offseason. If that “arms race” happens, key defensive players will matter just as much as guys like Stone and Duschene as they become key shut down adds for the playoffs. Both Eddie and Sutter are high value defensive players and can shut down top lines and are great on the PK. And we know how important special teams are in the playoffs. Sutter may be out for the year, so I highly doubt he gets moved next week. Edler may be back soon but he has a NTC so unless he agrees to move he's not going anywhere either. Even Tanev is out for an extended period so he can't be moved either. The only players I see with a chance of getting moved at the deadline are Granlund and Goldobin, maybe Biega. A very small chance Hutton gets moved if JB gets a nice offer. Nobody would want Pouliot or Schaller unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Dangles Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Sutter may be out for the year, so I highly doubt he gets moved next week. Edler may be back soon but he has a NTC so unless he agrees to move he's not going anywhere either. Even Tanev is out for an extended period so he can't be moved either. The only players I see with a chance of getting moved at the deadline are Granlund and Goldobin, maybe Biega. A very small chance Hutton gets moved if JB gets a nice offer. Nobody would want Pouliot or Schaller unfortunately. Ya true, not much value in what we have in the bag of scraps! Lol Well I hope Sutter stays healthy next year and plays well then. Could be a good asset at the deadline assuming Gaudette shows he’s ready which is close to a certainty if he keeps progressing the way he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, 40Dangles said: I could be wrong didn’t they trade for him the year after they went to the semi finals? I think so and they felt he was a missing piece. No one could have predicted the problems that occurred in the dressing room that imploded that team. If I’m right I think people are forgetting the timing, it’s not like Dorian made this trade when they were sucking did he? Not saying Ottawa totally bombed the trade. Seemed like a good trade at the time for their team. They still paid a boatload of value for the trade though, not to mention along with Turris who is a top 6 forward himself. I think the owner hated Turris for some reason and didn't want to give him a pay day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Dangles Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Drakrami said: Not saying Ottawa totally bombed the trade. Seemed like a good trade at the time for their team. They still paid a boatload of value for the trade though, not to mention along with Turris who is a top 6 forward himself. I think the owner hated Turris for some reason and didn't want to give him a pay day. Ya I forgot about Turris. That was a mess for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Drakrami said: Not saying Ottawa totally bombed the trade. Seemed like a good trade at the time for their team. They still paid a boatload of value for the trade though, not to mention along with Turris who is a top 6 forward himself. I think the owner hated Turris for some reason and didn't want to give him a pay day. Turris has zone starts of 70% and is only a 0.5ppg. Poile was pretty severe in his recent assessment of their 2nd line saying they need much more from that line. He talked about how the line faded in the 2nd half of last season and in the playoffs. It's no better this season. Poile really wanted Duchene but they wanted one of their 4Ds and that was a no go so they went with Turris. I wonder if they won't try and get Duchene and move Turris in the off-season. Turris wanted 8 years and to be paid - 6 years was not available to Ottawa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Crabcakes said: Pitch forks and torches And rightly so.... what a totally amateurish way of running things.... disgraceful.... and we got folks complaining about Bennings dealings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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