spook007 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, khay said: The lesson here is, lie, deceit, and cheat. It will get you to places in life. NHL, where lying, cheating, and deceitfulness are not only tolerated but encouraged. Provided you are one of the NHL darlings... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, WHL rocks said: What exactly is the problem with this. Leafs still get same cap as anyone. Any team could have traded for Calrkson. I don't understand why ppl saying leafs getting special treatment. Exactly what special treatment are the leafs getting. Maybe I'm missing something. Just as every team could have signed a player to the same deal Canucks signed Luongo, but Canucks got shafted retrospectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: From what I understand prior to trading for Clarkson the Maple Leafs only had around $7.4 million to sign Marner. This is because Horton's contract was not LTIR eligible as the Leafs were under the cap. In order for Horton's contract to be LTIR eligible the Leafs would have to have been right at the cap and then they can exceed by the amount of LTIR money they have. So by trading for Clarkson it accomplished two things. One it put the Leafs right at the cap, or just over it. Two, by doing that Horton's LTIR money now kicks in as well as the new LTIR money of Clarkson, so now the Leafs can exceed the cap by $10.55 million as of right now to sign Marner. If they did not make this trade they could not have signed Marner without making another trade. So effectively they gained over $3 million in cap space by trading for Clarkson. Without trading for Clarkson they would have only been able to exceed the cap by 10%, or a total of $7.4 million. If it was any other player it would not have worked because then they wouldn't have been able to exceed the cap via the LTIR money. Actually this is a good move by Dubas, and I am sure he received this advice from Gilman who is a cap specialist. The Leafs effectively gained $3 million in cap space to sign Marner right now as well as getting a 4th round pick. Now lets see if the league will punish leafs as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Trading for a guy who hasn't played in 3 years and won't again is in good spirit? Hmm Maybe the Canucks should reach way back and sign Bobby Orr and Pavel Bure and have them fail their physicals because of their knees and we get more cap space and sign Marner or whomever :) Trading for players who haven't played in years shouldn't even be a consideration and yet the NHL head office has vetoed other team trades or signings 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Twilight Sparkle said: take 4 to double your chances of survival Is that Pierre McGuire? Doesn't look as annoying as usual. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Provost said: No you don’t work in this stuff every day... or if you do, don’t let your employer see these threads and how bad you are at it. I already destroyed you in a previous thread where you claimed expertise in these things. A decade in labour relations; another few years in contract interpretation and negotiation with CBAs for tens of thousands of employees; and another decade in writing and reviewing contracts with vendors and suppliers for projects into the hundreds of millions... all informs me that you haven’t a clue. You at best took a first year course in it, but didn’t learn much. There are a lot of experts around much more knowledgeable than me about contract, but probably not on this forum... and certainly not you. You can’t even read simple contract language like this CBA as illustrated by your repeated glaring mistakes that have been pointed out by everybody... the NHL CBA is like a Kindergarten version of real ones out there in heavily unionized environments. I guess if you think you are trolling and bothering me, I am happily drinking a 16 year old scotch and reading other threads, it doesn’t take a lot of effort to rebut you. Ouchhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 So "goalie of the future" who was "tens times the goalie Demko will ever be" per the former from Canadian Sports networks and the latter from CDC when both were in AHL has been traded for dead money. People who want to be negative about everything done by the Canuck organization but praise other organizations that do crazy crap - think about the following as just two examples: - Canucks traded Demko right now for Clarkson's contract -Canucks brought in Neal to be EP40's winger (that is what they are talking about in Edmonton). If either of these things happened, this board would implode with negative comments about incompetence of Benning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Rob_Zepp said: So "goalie of the future" who was "tens times the goalie Demko will ever be" per the former from Canadian Sports networks and the latter from CDC when both were in AHL has been traded for dead money. People who want to be negative about everything done by the Canuck organization but praise other organizations that do crazy crap - think about the following as just two examples: - Canucks traded Demko right now for Clarkson's contract -Canucks brought in Neal to be EP40's winger (that is what they are talking about in Edmonton). If either of these things happened, this board would implode with negative comments about incompetence of Benning. Who posted that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shift-4 Posted July 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2019 You guys can argue about cap rules all you want In the end the leafs still suck! 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 15 hours ago, coastal.view said: the first being that lucic actually was traded I'm not surprised Lucic was traded. I AM surprised that Treliving so willingly bent over for Holland on surrendering all leverage and didn't get more in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: I'm not surprised Lucic was traded. I AM surprised that Treliving so willingly bent over for Holland on surrendering all leverage and didn't get more in return. well i am that is the worst contract in the nhl who else would have taken it ? and as bad as that trade was the flames still saved 10 million dollars by doing it the oilers in the end paid a big monetary premium to move lucic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I believe this is all part of the Shanaplan. Phase 3, "Half-Assing It." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, ba;;isticsports said: Trading for a guy who hasn't played in 3 years and won't again is in good spirit? Hmm Maybe the Canucks should reach way back and sign Bobby Orr and Pavel Bure and have them fail their physicals because of their knees and we get more cap space and sign Marner or whomever Trading for players who haven't played in years shouldn't even be a consideration and yet the NHL head office has vetoed other team trades or signings We should convince Luongo to come out of the retirement and trade for him for a 7th rounder to Florida. Then, Luongo goes on LTIR to eliminate the penalty. The fat that NHL approves this sort of trade is a joke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Ghost Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 48 minutes ago, Shift-4 said: You guys can argue about cap rules all you want In the end the leafs still suck! This is what warms my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Ghost Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, khay said: We should convince Luongo to come out of the retirement and trade for him for a 7th rounder to Florida. Then, Luongo goes on LTIR to eliminate the penalty. The fat that NHL approves this sort of trade is a joke. They actually should lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack in the box Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, coastal.view said: well i am that is the worst contract in the nhl who else would have taken it ? and as bad as that trade was the flames still saved 10 million dollars by doing it the oilers in the end paid a big monetary premium to move lucic Seabrook said hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gassy Jack said: Seabrook said hi i think he can still play not convinced lucic can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, Toews said: Who posted that? No one. Rob is just trying to appease the mob. Make up a fake narrative to gain favor amongst others. Sparks is 3 years older than Demko and the two aren’t at all comparables. The leafs closest comparable would be Joseph Woll. Leafs 3rd round pick in 2016. He also went to Boston collage putting up solid number. He Also played for team USA at world juniors. Both played 3 years of NCAA and then signed there deal. He’s the closest thing leafs have to Demko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, khay said: We should convince Luongo to come out of the retirement and trade for him for a 7th rounder to Florida. Then, Luongo goes on LTIR to eliminate the penalty. The fat that NHL approves this sort of trade is a joke. Rumour is Luongo wanted to go on LTIR but Florida said nope. To save some money. Edited July 24, 2019 by ForsbergTheGreat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Rumour is Luongo wanted to go on LTIR but Florida said nope. To save some money. https://mobile.twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1143946867467804673 Dang it. Should have traded for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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