Ryan Strome Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 9:34 AM, Jimmy McGill said: I dunno... he seems pretty connected to the social conservatives (just like Poutine Poilievre) and is back with the 'mandatory minimums' thing that already got shot down once by the SCoC. It might be popular with the base but its a failed recipe to win in Canada. His riding is right outside Toronto. Military background and I love his CANZUK plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said: His riding is right outside Toronto. Military background and I love his CANZUK plans. I'm not saying he's a bad choice, but he is going to have to figure out some new positions if he hopes to regain some of the centre. He does seem like a quality person tho, so thats good. I didn't realize he was part pf that either, I do think thats a very cool idea as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Edited January 22, 2020 by Mackcanuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said: meh, &^@# you Stephen Harper. Must have really applied the pressure to keep her out. Well thats it then. Its Trudeau vs Harpers hand puppet. P-Mac coronation in the bag now, why wait until summer? Edited January 22, 2020 by Jimmy McGill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said: Smart lady She probably sees a better life outside of politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Ambrose seems mentally unhinged.... She likes living in Alberta.... Too unhinged to be a CDN PM..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 So Peter MacKay's strategy seems to be trying to take a centre approach, even announcing he's going to be in the Toronto pride parade 6 months ahead of time. O'Toole is claiming to be "true blue". I wonder how much of a chance O'Toole really has? he's ex-military, isn't hampered by past gaffees, seems to be willing to play to the social-con base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 2:44 PM, Shift-4 said: Smart lady She probably sees a better life outside of politics its a loss imo, we need more good people running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: its a loss imo, we need more good people running. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: its a loss imo, we need more good people running. have you been following politics like at anytime yeah good luck with that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, Squamfan said: my point exactly. And he didn't run, this was all Harper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 So this is interesting. Basically conservative millennials are looking to get the progressive back into the CPC platform. Not much chance of this happening with Harper still pulling the strings in the background, but its interesting to see what would energize younger conservative voters. Gives me some hope. Conservative millennials lay out a policy wish list for the party S To attract younger voters, millennials say the party must embrace diversity and tackle poverty Catherine Cullen · CBC · Posted: Feb 02, 2020 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago Leadership races can be bruising, bare-knuckled slugfests for political dominance. Those are the moments that tend to grab headlines. But a leadership race also can offer an opportunity for a political party to engage in policy renewal — maybe even some soul-searching. As the Conservative Party of Canada looks for a new leader, some young Conservatives are asking themselves what it would take to make their party more attractive to newer voters. Dennis Matthews is one of them. He used to manage government advertising in Stephen Harper's PMO; these days he's a vice-president at Enterprise Canada. In a recent Twitter cri de coeur, he reflected on what he described as his party's need to be contemporary. The Conservative Party should embrace policies for the new decade, he said, by engaging on topics that matter to younger Canadians, such as the opioid epidemic and the spread of workplace automation. We decided to ask some Conservative millennials which issues they'd like see their party take on to win over young voters. Poverty Fighting poverty should be a Conservative goal, said Shakir Chambers, a former senior policy adviser to Ontario Premier Doug Ford who also worked in Stephen Harper's PMO. "I think if you're a Conservative you believe that anybody who is able-bodied wants to work ... So how do we create business incentives for folks to actually invest and hire those folks to get them the job experience they need and get in the door?" he said. Chambers, 35, is thinking in particular about policies that would help people with criminal records. "I think a lot of these folks, all they need is to open the door to get in and get some job experience so they can show people, 'Listen, I have a criminal record but I'm not a bad person and I want to work.'" Housing The dream of owning a home seems increasingly out of reach for some millennials, said Matthews. "This is an issue that has real electoral implications in urban and suburban Canada and means completely different things in other parts of the country," he said, pointing to soaring housing prices in Toronto and Vancouver in particular. Matthews said he doesn't know any quick solutions. The federal government will need to get creative, he said, adding he believes it could play a role in "breaking the logjam" keeping many people out of the housing market. The future of work The workplace is changing fast, thanks to widespread automation and the growth of the "gig economy." Many millennials know they can expect their career paths to be much different from those of their parents. Young Conservatives say they would like to see their party come up with policies to address that. Thirty-three year old Alberta MP Garnett Genuis said he would like to see policies that make it easier to work from home. More and more stay-at-home parents are operating home-based businesses, he said. Other parents may want to take parental leave while still being able to work on a few files from the office. He said he'd like to see what he calls "family friendly" tax changes that would make those things easier. Parents, he said, should be able to earn some income while on leave without facing aggressive income tax clawbacks, while the work-from-home tax deduction should be easier to access. Lauren McDonald says Conservatives should be thinking about ways to attract young people into the skilled trades. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press) The Conservatives also should be thinking about policies to address the spread of automation, and to attract young people to the skilled trades, said 27-year-old Lauren McDonald, a former director of marketing for Premier Ford. She points to the Ontario government's campaign to get young people to consider the trades. It's intended to help address labour shortages, she said — but it also could help young people consider a career path they hadn't before. "When you traditionally think about skilled trades, you think about NDP and unions," she said. Celebrating diversity Chambers said he wants to see the next Conservative leader do more to grow support among minority voters. Doing that could involve everything from attending cultural events to putting forward policies that speak to those communities' concerns, he said. Chambers points to his own experience. His family is from the Caribbean and every year at Christmas, he said, he gets asked why he's a Conservative. He said he believes it's something his party struggles with in many minority communities. "They like our policy but they might think, as a minority, 'I shouldn't be a Conservative,' because you don't see a lot of minorities in the party," said Chambers, a senior consultant with the PR firm Navigator. He said he's heard people say Conservative parties accept diversity — but don't necessarily celebrate it. To improve that image, Chambers said, Conservatives should take lessons from Alberta Premier Jason Kenney. Back when he was the federal minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism, Kenney was a constant fixture at cultural community events across the country — part of a (largely successful) Conservative campaign to win over new voters. Responding to online hate Genuis said he would like to see his party tackle online hate aimed at minority groups as part of a larger emphasis on civil rights. "We have a particular appreciation of the importance of freedom of speech that isn't shared by other parties in the same way," he said. "But I think we can and we must do both." A graffiti removal worker cleans anti-Semitic graffiti, including a swastika, spray painted on the door of The Glebe Minyan in Ottawa Nov. 15, 2016. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press) He cites something he heard about recently through his work as the party's critic on multicultural issues — an image being shared online of a mock "licence" for hunting Muslims. He notes that while there are laws prohibiting some of the worst online behaviour, it's not always clear that the authorities are as quick to act as some community members would like. "Clearly, there's a problem out there in this space." Social isolation Technology has created a host of policy challenges, from growing automation displacing workers to new virtual currencies. Dennis Matthews wants to add social isolation to that list. A U.K. government investigation into loneliness suggested it's as harmful to human health as smoking 15 cigarettes a day. "It's a bigger question of what type of country and society do we want to build, and how we create a sense of patriotism, a sense of belonging that were hallmarks of conservative movements for so long," said Matthews. "How do you create a 2020 version of that?" While it's not a problem that can be addressed overnight, Matthews points to social isolation as the kind of policy topic that could get many Canadians to engage with Conservatives. Financial literacy Financial literacy means a lot more than just knowing how to use a bank account, said Chambers. He said he'd like to see the federal government work with other levels of government to make sure young people know more about doing their taxes and how to invest. "I think there are a lot of folks out there who know nothing about how money actually works." He said it's an idea his party ought to embrace because young people who understand money would be more likely to support the Conservatives. Seniors McDonald, who's now director of digital public affairs and campaign strategy at the lobbying firm Proof Strategies, said she knows that the plight of seniors might not be the most obvious policy topic for a millennial. But she said she believes many people her age are concerned about older Canadians. "The huge baby boomer, silver wave is coming. They're seeing that and worry about what their parents are going to be [experiencing] in terms of health care, long term care, hospital wait times," she said. "How are we positioning ourselves to be ready for that?" OPINION | How the Harper model worked, and why it's now broken ANALYSIS Conservatives have a long, tumultuous history of trying to figure out Quebec 'Maybe we don't know who we are anymore': Strategists weigh in on Conservatives' leadership contest On this issue and others, McDonald argues Conservatives need to put more focus on the "people" side of policy. "I know Conservatives, often times the language is 'the taxpayer', 'the voter', 'the constituent'. I think turning our minds to the people on the other end of the policy can help us think more intimately about how that's going to affect people in the long run." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: So this is interesting. Basically conservative millennials are looking to get the progressive back into the CPC platform. Not much chance of this happening with Harper still pulling the strings in the background, but its interesting to see what would energize younger conservative voters. Gives me some hope. Conservative millennials lay out a policy wish list for the party S To attract younger voters, millennials say the party must embrace diversity and tackle poverty Catherine Cullen · CBC · Posted: Feb 02, 2020 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago Leadership races can be bruising, bare-knuckled slugfests for political dominance. Those are the moments that tend to grab headlines. But a leadership race also can offer an opportunity for a political party to engage in policy renewal — maybe even some soul-searching. As the Conservative Party of Canada looks for a new leader, some young Conservatives are asking themselves what it would take to make their party more attractive to newer voters. Dennis Matthews is one of them. He used to manage government advertising in Stephen Harper's PMO; these days he's a vice-president at Enterprise Canada. In a recent Twitter cri de coeur, he reflected on what he described as his party's need to be contemporary. The Conservative Party should embrace policies for the new decade, he said, by engaging on topics that matter to younger Canadians, such as the opioid epidemic and the spread of workplace automation. We decided to ask some Conservative millennials which issues they'd like see their party take on to win over young voters. Poverty Fighting poverty should be a Conservative goal, said Shakir Chambers, a former senior policy adviser to Ontario Premier Doug Ford who also worked in Stephen Harper's PMO. "I think if you're a Conservative you believe that anybody who is able-bodied wants to work ... So how do we create business incentives for folks to actually invest and hire those folks to get them the job experience they need and get in the door?" he said. Chambers, 35, is thinking in particular about policies that would help people with criminal records. "I think a lot of these folks, all they need is to open the door to get in and get some job experience so they can show people, 'Listen, I have a criminal record but I'm not a bad person and I want to work.'" Housing The dream of owning a home seems increasingly out of reach for some millennials, said Matthews. "This is an issue that has real electoral implications in urban and suburban Canada and means completely different things in other parts of the country," he said, pointing to soaring housing prices in Toronto and Vancouver in particular. Matthews said he doesn't know any quick solutions. The federal government will need to get creative, he said, adding he believes it could play a role in "breaking the logjam" keeping many people out of the housing market. The future of work The workplace is changing fast, thanks to widespread automation and the growth of the "gig economy." Many millennials know they can expect their career paths to be much different from those of their parents. Young Conservatives say they would like to see their party come up with policies to address that. Thirty-three year old Alberta MP Garnett Genuis said he would like to see policies that make it easier to work from home. More and more stay-at-home parents are operating home-based businesses, he said. Other parents may want to take parental leave while still being able to work on a few files from the office. He said he'd like to see what he calls "family friendly" tax changes that would make those things easier. Parents, he said, should be able to earn some income while on leave without facing aggressive income tax clawbacks, while the work-from-home tax deduction should be easier to access. Lauren McDonald says Conservatives should be thinking about ways to attract young people into the skilled trades. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press) The Conservatives also should be thinking about policies to address the spread of automation, and to attract young people to the skilled trades, said 27-year-old Lauren McDonald, a former director of marketing for Premier Ford. She points to the Ontario government's campaign to get young people to consider the trades. It's intended to help address labour shortages, she said — but it also could help young people consider a career path they hadn't before. "When you traditionally think about skilled trades, you think about NDP and unions," she said. Celebrating diversity Chambers said he wants to see the next Conservative leader do more to grow support among minority voters. Doing that could involve everything from attending cultural events to putting forward policies that speak to those communities' concerns, he said. Chambers points to his own experience. His family is from the Caribbean and every year at Christmas, he said, he gets asked why he's a Conservative. He said he believes it's something his party struggles with in many minority communities. "They like our policy but they might think, as a minority, 'I shouldn't be a Conservative,' because you don't see a lot of minorities in the party," said Chambers, a senior consultant with the PR firm Navigator. He said he's heard people say Conservative parties accept diversity — but don't necessarily celebrate it. To improve that image, Chambers said, Conservatives should take lessons from Alberta Premier Jason Kenney. Back when he was the federal minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism, Kenney was a constant fixture at cultural community events across the country — part of a (largely successful) Conservative campaign to win over new voters. Responding to online hate Genuis said he would like to see his party tackle online hate aimed at minority groups as part of a larger emphasis on civil rights. "We have a particular appreciation of the importance of freedom of speech that isn't shared by other parties in the same way," he said. "But I think we can and we must do both." A graffiti removal worker cleans anti-Semitic graffiti, including a swastika, spray painted on the door of The Glebe Minyan in Ottawa Nov. 15, 2016. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press) He cites something he heard about recently through his work as the party's critic on multicultural issues — an image being shared online of a mock "licence" for hunting Muslims. He notes that while there are laws prohibiting some of the worst online behaviour, it's not always clear that the authorities are as quick to act as some community members would like. "Clearly, there's a problem out there in this space." Social isolation Technology has created a host of policy challenges, from growing automation displacing workers to new virtual currencies. Dennis Matthews wants to add social isolation to that list. A U.K. government investigation into loneliness suggested it's as harmful to human health as smoking 15 cigarettes a day. "It's a bigger question of what type of country and society do we want to build, and how we create a sense of patriotism, a sense of belonging that were hallmarks of conservative movements for so long," said Matthews. "How do you create a 2020 version of that?" While it's not a problem that can be addressed overnight, Matthews points to social isolation as the kind of policy topic that could get many Canadians to engage with Conservatives. Financial literacy Financial literacy means a lot more than just knowing how to use a bank account, said Chambers. He said he'd like to see the federal government work with other levels of government to make sure young people know more about doing their taxes and how to invest. "I think there are a lot of folks out there who know nothing about how money actually works." He said it's an idea his party ought to embrace because young people who understand money would be more likely to support the Conservatives. Seniors McDonald, who's now director of digital public affairs and campaign strategy at the lobbying firm Proof Strategies, said she knows that the plight of seniors might not be the most obvious policy topic for a millennial. But she said she believes many people her age are concerned about older Canadians. "The huge baby boomer, silver wave is coming. They're seeing that and worry about what their parents are going to be [experiencing] in terms of health care, long term care, hospital wait times," she said. "How are we positioning ourselves to be ready for that?" OPINION | How the Harper model worked, and why it's now broken ANALYSIS Conservatives have a long, tumultuous history of trying to figure out Quebec 'Maybe we don't know who we are anymore': Strategists weigh in on Conservatives' leadership contest On this issue and others, McDonald argues Conservatives need to put more focus on the "people" side of policy. "I know Conservatives, often times the language is 'the taxpayer', 'the voter', 'the constituent'. I think turning our minds to the people on the other end of the policy can help us think more intimately about how that's going to affect people in the long run." For this to happen, 1/3 or more of the current MPs under the Conservative banner would need to be turfed. This is effectively a call to end social conservatism in Canada and I am 100% behind that. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: For this to happen, 1/3 or more of the current MPs under the Conservative banner would need to be turfed. This is effectively a call to end social conservatism in Canada and I am 100% behind that. But thats where the energy and fire is coming from in the CPC right now. Harper really is still pulling the strings. He was running the conservative party fund and if some pundits are to be believed convincing people like Poilievre and Ambrose not to run. I guess the dark horse in the CPC race is O'Toole but he's running on a "true blue" platform and seems to want to appeal to the social con's. MacKay might give some lip service to the millennials by showing up to a pride parade tho. Awesome that a conservative can now do that after all the hard work of everyone else to get LGBTQ rights, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Some things never change.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I reiterate. Until the social conservatives are turfed from the party, the attitudes will not change https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/alberta-mp-apologizes-for-asking-female-member-if-she-s-considered-sex-work-1.4797084?fbclid=IwAR3hdsPmi2SGKtn9NCe60KA79OXg_Z1cr-AYJg5ct9KjsfI9hSqRnAbhEnU "Consider listening to the voices of sex workers," she said. "Sex workers are saying that sex work is work, and I also ask the honourable member if he considers the Harper government's decision to implement Bill 36, which criminalized the work environments, the work establishments sex workers go to to feel safe." That prompted a response from Peace River-Westlock Conservative MP Arnold Viersen. "I would just respond to that by asking the honourable member across the way if it's an area of work that she has considered, and if that is an appropriate…," he said, getting interrupted by audible boos. "Mr. Speaker I think this makes the point. I do not think any woman in this country ever chooses this as a job. This is something they are trafficked into." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph. Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 What a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 If cpc is smart.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I think a major question for a lot of voters is which potential leadership candidate will promise to pursue charges against JT for his many many criminal transgressions? Someone will have to answer for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said: If cpc is smart.. not sure I'm thrilled with him wearing the uniform as advertising here. I know he's a vet but this seems inappropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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