Trebreh Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 We should dress MacEwen and scratch Roussel to send a message. Honestly, Roussels job is not even secure on this roster. He could very well be a trade bait in a couple weeks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Unchanged as in personel or unchanged as in system lmao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Another certainty? Vancouver has it's best player laid out with a late hit (and yes he came back in) and does nothing to send a message to the opposing team that it's unacceptable. yeah, that bugs me a lot. I don't know what the solution is, the team and coach seem determined to take the high road... problem is the NHL doesn't reward the high road. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just realized this guy is 5 foot 9 - 175lbs -and looks like my newspaper delivery boy. Even Stecher should be able to rough this kid up a bit. Problem is the Canucks cant beat the Bruins in the alley if the game got out of hand with retribution. Next game vs Bruins is at the end of the next home stand Feb 22. Will be interesting to see the tone of the game after Miller's "they aint nothing special" comment and the hit Petey took. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Lines in practice: Pearson/MacEwen-Horvat-Eriksson Miller-Pettersson-Boeser Roussel-Gaudette-Virtanen Schaller-Beagle-Sutter/Bailey Edler-Stecher Hughes-Tanev Fantenberg-Myers Benn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, Darius said: Green usually doesnt spout off about reffing or his players getting run at. Part of me thinks hes sending a subtle message to benning to better equip his team to deal with these situations. Benning has equipped the team with more than enough players capable of stepping up for their teammates. Roussel, Benn, Myers, Miller. In the past, Benning had Gudbranson, who went from being a terror to those who went after his teammates, to a player reluctant to do so. This isn't on Benning at all. 29 minutes ago, Darius said: I know Benning went out and got Ferland and Roussel etc...but IMHO the days of those guys being the guys that stir the pot when it comes to deterring or roughing up the other team are done. Have you watched the Battle of Alberta by chance? 29 minutes ago, Darius said: They both have concussion histories and will probably be apprehensive to get involved in situations where the gloves may come off. Well, then hopefully Benning can make a deal to move them along and acquire more durable players. 29 minutes ago, Darius said: Ferland can still be a good player, i just dont expect him to be the guy that keeps the other team honest. He doesn't have to fight, but if he can't even throw a hit without dealing with symptoms, I'm thinking he'll hang them up. 29 minutes ago, Darius said: Dont know what the answer is here. Seems like we have had this problem for years... No one seems to know. This team has really been reluctant to fight back since Bieksa was traded. Guddy was good for a few heavyweight bouts, but once injuries piled up on the defense, he was way out of his paygrade and was chastised for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: The one change that has to occur is removing Newell Brown. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo fan Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, Trebreh said: We should dress MacEwen and scratch Roussel to send a message. Honestly, Roussels job is not even secure on this roster. He could very well be a trade bait in a couple weeks. I read an article this past week - someone interviewed Roussel - he admitted he hasn't been playing as well as last year - still recovering and conditioning from surgery. Said he felt different now then he did a month ago but still felt he wasn't up to speed. Maybe it was in the Athletic - not sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Nuck Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: The hit on Pettersson less than a minute into the game and the lack of a penalty to the Bruins for interference/roughing was absolute crap. You cannot hit a guy 4 seconds after he passes the puck. You think that was good reffing? I beg to differ. The lack of response from us set the tone for the game and that’s why we lost, they were a heavy team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Darius said: Just realized this guy is 5 foot 9 - 175lbs -and looks like my newspaper delivery boy. Monster! 20 minutes ago, Darius said: Even Stecher should be able to rough this kid up a bit. Problem is the Canucks cant beat the Bruins in the alley if the game got out of hand with retribution. Why is that? The Canucks overall are a larger team on paper than the Bruins. 2011, when Lucic, McQuaid, Boychuk, Ference, Horton, and Chara victimized the team is a long time ago. The only player who physically dominated the Canucks from that timeframe is Chara. He's 42. Is he still that much of a threat? 20 minutes ago, Darius said: Next game vs Bruins is at the end of the next home stand Feb 22. Will be interesting to see the tone of the game after Miller's "they aint nothing special" comment and the hit Petey took. I expect Green to continue with his "do nothing in the game, and complain to the press after" routine. The fact that a pipsqueak like this clown was able to lay out Pettersson with impunity is embarrassing. I'm sure other teams are watching and will take the same liberties. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dumb Nuck said: The lack of response from us set the tone for the game and that’s why we lost, they were a heavy team. Boston gets away with crap like this against every team. Nice having legacy hires in the NHL offices. But if Jim could somehow find us our own version of a Tom Wilson, well that would be a nice addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dumb Nuck said: The lack of response from us set the tone for the game and that’s why we lost, they were a heavy team. Yet, in actual fact, the Canucks are the larger team overall. The Bruins just have an identity. The Canucks? Hmmm.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Benning has equipped the team with more than enough players capable of stepping up for their teammates. Roussel, Benn, Myers, Miller. In the past, Benning had Gudbranson, who went from being a terror to those who went after his teammates, to a player reluctant to do so. This isn't on Benning at all. Have you watched the Battle of Alberta by chance? Well, then hopefully Benning can make a deal to move them along and acquire more durable players. He doesn't have to fight, but if he can't even throw a hit without dealing with symptoms, I'm thinking he'll hang them up. No one seems to know. This team has really been reluctant to fight back since Bieksa was traded. Guddy was good for a few heavyweight bouts, but once injuries piled up on the defense, he was way out of his paygrade and was chastised for it. Benning has tried to equip the team with players that can step up, but a couple of the main guys Ferland and Rouss, probably arent capable of that anymore. Both guys are probably a punch away from long term IR. This isnt Bennings fault. I dont know where this idea that Benn and Myers are guys that step up when the going gets rough...neither guy is known as that type of player IMHO and probably just as reluctant to drop the gloves as a guy like Pearson or Miller. But this doesnt excuse the team from not sending some sort of message back after EP got hit. Gryz is smaller than EP, and just as light, someone should have done something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: Boston gets away with crap like this against every team. Nice having legacy hires in the NHL offices. But if Jim could somehow find us our own version of a Tom Wilson, well that would be a nice addition. What would the point be? Every player who's been a hellraiser on their previous team seems neutered when they get here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Darius said: Benning has tried to equip the team with players that can step up, but a couple of the main guys Ferland and Rouss, probably arent capable of that anymore. Both guys are probably a punch away from long term IR. This isnt Bennings fault. I dont know where this idea that Benn and Myers are guys that step up when the going gets rough...neither guy is known as that type of player IMHO and probably just as reluctant to drop the gloves as a guy like Pearson or Miller. Look up on YouTube. Both Myers and Benn have had numerous fights. Quote But this doesnt excuse the team from not sending some sort of message back after EP got hit. Gryz is smaller than EP, and just as light, someone should have done something. There's a definite pattern at play. Fact is, the Canucks don't have a pack mentality at all. It's pretty obvious. Edited February 5, 2020 by PhillipBlunt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Nuck Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: What would the point be? Every player who's been a hellraiser on their previous team seems neutered when they get here. Fire Green! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: What would the point be? Every player who's been a hellraiser on their previous team seems neutered when they get here. not sure we've really had a feared physical presence for a very long time Phil. Who's the last one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Look up on YouTube. Both Myers and Benn have had numerous fights. There's a definite pattern at play. You thinking Green is at fault? Not sure about that....the guy was pretty hard nosed when he played. Not saying you are wrong...just thinking its not in most of these guys' dna to be the guy that stirs up the hornets nest in response to a cheap play. Edit: looked up Benn and Meyer's career fights just out of curiosity Benn 32 years old 5 career fights Meyers 30 years old 7 career fights These guys fight sparsely .... at his rate Bo Horvat will probably have as many when he hits his 30s. Edited February 5, 2020 by Darius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 40 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: What happened to the old saying "don't fix it if it ain't broke"? Well gosh darn it. I think it's fu*kin broken Green. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, SergioMomesso said: What happened to the old saying "don't fix it if it ain't broke"? Well gosh darn it. I think it's fu*kin broken Green. don't break it if it ain't fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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