Sp3nny Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Locke Lamora said: Just hope the goalie is picked ahead of us so that makes one extra skater available to us. Bit concerned that Johnson might also be the hard gainer string bean body like EP. Don’t want too many of those in my opinion. Mctavish (or Clarke) is really what I want most. Not saying it to defend that he will put on weight easily, just more for factual background. Kent has an older brother (Kyle, 4 years older) who is 5'11 185lbs. You would think Kent could atleast get to the same weight, albeit taller, so still a bit slight for his height, but lots of guys are successful successful that weight. How plausible/long/easy it is for him to get there is another thing. Edited July 5, 2021 by Sp3nny Re-worded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: what about after him tho, I suspect he doesn't fall to 9. In my limited experience/view I see McTavish as the guy we need that might be there at 9. If we get Eklund or MacT we are very happy. I wonder if CBJ might go for Johnson? High end set up guy for Laine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: If we get Eklund or MacT we are very happy. I wonder if CBJ might go for Johnson? High end set up guy for Laine? after the tragedy they just had, maybe CBJ goes for Wallsted if he's still there tho? LA maybe snaps up Johnson? Man its so hard to say. Its going to be a really fun draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) VAN is actually in a very good spot at #9. It would be such a difficult decision to make at #2, 3, 4 and so on. Big pressure to take the right player, but so many to choose from. Deciding between Clarke, Eklund and McTavish when picking #3, hmmm. Tough choice. Benning just has to sit back and wait as the prospects are picked off the list. Some teams ahead may do something different, like taking Ceulemans, Wallstedt, and Lysell. Benning will have some very good options available at #9. Edited July 5, 2021 by NUCKER67 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: VAN is actually in a very good spot at #9. It would be such a difficult decision to make at #2, 3, 4 and so on. Big pressure to take the right player, but so many to choose from. Deciding between Clarke, Eklund and McTavish when picking #3, hmmm. Tough choice. Benning just has to sit back and wait as the prospects are picked off the list. Some teams ahead may probably do something different, like taking Ceulemans, Wallstedt, and Lysell. Benning will have some very good options available at #9. It's just gotten to the point where I have absolutely no idea who's going to be there for the taking at 9. I've over-dissected the hell out of this draft for like over a month now. The countdown is on. My fiancee works on the day of (and I've been blessed with the day off), so I'll be drinking copious amounts of liquor, and I'll probably have a friend over. Can't wait. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Ward Posted July 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Alflives said: If we get Eklund or MacT we are very happy. I wonder if CBJ might go for Johnson? High end set up guy for Laine? From things I have read, I am starting to think that Eklund and Wallstedt might end up being the best two players in the draft. I think teams ignore all the hype on the internet and know this. I would be surprised if Eklund lasts past top 5 but because of the boycott by many on drafting goalies high, it will be interesting to see where Wallstedt goes. I personally don't think either will be available for us. It seems like McTavish might be getting a little overhyped and the teams' scouts may not buy it. I think he has a better chance of falling to us. I think drafting should be done by BPA and based on the players possible ceilings. My take on ceilings: (based on reading and some watching) Power - top pairing dman but not Norris caliber Beniers - mediocre 1st line center or excellent 2nd liner Eklund - 1st line star, top 10 nhl scorer Clarke - #1 defenseman, possible Norris candidate on the right team in 5 years Hughes - # 1 defenseman, possible Norris candidate on the right team in 5 years Wallstedt - Vezina candidate McTavish - Excellent 2nd line center, PKer, Guenther - 1st line winger, 30 goals, 30 assists Johnson - 1st line winger, 70 pts Edvinsson - Top pairing defensemen, but not Norris Caliber I may be totally wrong but I think that these are their ceilings. Of course they also all have different floors, but if I am a scout, I am using a top 10 pick to get the best possible talent I can. Then it is up to my team to develop the best out of them. Based on this, I think 2 of MacTavish, Guenther, Johnson and Edvinsson will be available for us. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said: My take on ceilings: (based on reading and some watching) Power - top pairing dman but not Norris caliber Beniers - mediocre 1st line center or excellent 2nd liner Eklund - 1st line star, top 10 nhl scorer Clarke - #1 defenseman, possible Norris candidate on the right team in 5 years Hughes - # 1 defenseman, possible Norris candidate on the right team in 5 years Wallstedt - Vezina candidate McTavish - Excellent 2nd line center, PKer, Guenther - 1st line winger, 30 goals, 30 assists Johnson - 1st line winger, 70 pts Edvinsson - Top pairing defensemen, but not Norris Caliber Well done IMO, and I agree with your predictions for the most part, but would probably predict Beniers becomes a very good #1C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said: I think 2 of MacTavish, Guenther, Johnson and Edvinsson will be available for us. Looking at these 4, and based on the predictions, the BPAs are? Johnson Guenther McTavish Edvinsson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Well done IMO, and I agree with your predictions for the most part, but would probably predict Beniers becomes a very good #1C Mediocre was the wrong word. I meant to say, of the 32 1st line centers in the league I didn't think he would be in the top 15. Of course any 1st line center in the NHL is very good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dixon Ward Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Looking at these 4, and based on the predictions, the BPAs are? Johnson Guenther McTavish Edvinsson I have a feeling that, while he is a bpa guy, because of the balanced nature of the top 10 this year, need will factor in more than usual and Benning would take MacTavish of that group if he has the choice. After trading Gaudette and Madden, we are really thin at center. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: He could form some nasty chemistry with guys like Pettersson, Hughes, Boeser, etc. We'd have jaw dropping power plays for years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 32 minutes ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: He could form some nasty chemistry with guys like Pettersson, Hughes, Boeser, etc. We'd have jaw dropping power plays for years. Pretty nasty squad right there. Lots of ways to score and the creativity is out of this world in this group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Anyone know why the lack of love for Simon Edvinsson? I watched the kid play, and I think he shows good use of his size on both ends of the ice, occasionally great instincts on both O and D, good skating and playmaking. Does he make some stupid reads every once in a while? Sure, but he can learn from that. He definitely needs to improve his shot (specifically how quickly he shoots it), but his good stickhandling is a good indicator that he can do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, vinny_in_vancouver said: Anyone know why the lack of love for Simon Edvinsson? I watched the kid play, and I think he shows good use of his size on both ends of the ice, occasionally great instincts on both O and D, good skating and playmaking. Does he make some stupid reads every once in a while? Sure, but he can learn from that. He definitely needs to improve his shot (specifically how quickly he shoots it), but his good stickhandling is a good indicator that he can do it. For me it’s mostly just because he is a LHD. If he was RHD id be way more high on him. Thats just me tho on why im not Edited July 5, 2021 by Bertuzzipunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: after the tragedy they just had, maybe CBJ goes for Wallsted if he's still there tho? LA maybe snaps up Johnson? Man its so hard to say. Its going to be a really fun draft. Don't mean to slight Kivelnieks, but they are set in net short-medium term with Korpi and Merz, and they still have Tarasov and Vehvilainen. But if Josef Boumedienne, Ville Siren and Oscar Akerlund believe he is the best player at 5, I have no doubt Jarmo would take him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHockey Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: so in terms of being good with limited time and space, who's our best F choice in the 1st round in your view? Eklund is great at controlling the puck, but he's more about finding open ice and drawing defenders out of the high danger areas to open dangerous passing plays. I'd put Svechkov more in that same category. Besides McTavish, Brandt Clake is a master at manipulating the middle of the ice between the hashmarks. Lucius has shown nice moves in tight, and he's elite at maneuvering the slot area without the puck. I've mentioned Beniers is a bit tricky, because he seems to have the processing speed to make plays in tights, but often the hands and feet can't keep up. Chibrikov has pretty nice hands in tight, and so does Kent Johnson actually. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said: Eklund is great at controlling the puck, but he's more about finding open ice and drawing defenders out of the high danger areas to open dangerous passing plays. I'd put Svechkov more in that same category. Besides McTavish, Brandt Clake is a master at manipulating the middle of the ice between the hashmarks. Lucius has shown nice moves in tight, and he's elite at maneuvering the slot area without the puck. I've mentioned Beniers is a bit tricky, because he seems to have the processing speed to make plays in tights, but often the hands and feet can't keep up. Chibrikov has pretty nice hands in tight, and so does Kent Johnson actually. So assuming Eklund, Clarke and McTavish are gone by 9, Johnson seems like a good choice to many. I was looking up Svechkov, seems like we might have an outside shot at getting him in the 2nd round maybe. I'd prefer a RHD tho in that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 My Top 9 (just who I want most) 1. Beniers 2. McTavish 3. Clarke 4. Eklund 5. Power 6. Hughes 7. Lucius 8. Edvinsson 9. Lambos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 One of the things pushing Kent Johnson down the list is not knowing how to prepare to take a hit. Petey had this issue as well and then became very good at prepping for a hit to the point where he knocks the other player to the ground..... I don't think he could learn from a better guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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