Popular Post IBatch Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) Hi folks. Thought it might be fun to discuss where CDCers think the current top 50 best players in the league. For the first time in a decade or so the Canucks had three players make top 50 in The Hockey News annual top 50 before the start of the season...that’s incredible. EP at 8...QHs at 45 and Horvat at 47. Their top 50 went like this: 1. Mackinnon 2. McDavid 3. Crosby 4. Panarin 5. Pastrnak 6. Draisatl 7. Hedman 8. EP 9. Point 10. Kucherov 11. Marchand 12. Mathews 13. Eichel 14. Kane 15. Ovi 16. Hellebuyck 17. Vasilevsky 18. Malkin 19. Josi 20. Barkov 21. Seth Jones 22. O’Reilly 23. Carlson 24. Pietrangelo 25. Scheifele 26. Aho 27. Marner 28. Heiskanen 29. Stone 30. Barzal 31. Bergeron 32. Werenski 33. Rantanen 34. Huberdeau 35. Price 36. Couturier 37. Rask 38. P Luc-Dubois 39. Tavares 40. Lehner 41. Slavin 42. Connor 43. Theodore 44. Makar 45. Q Hughes 46. Laine 47. Horvat 48. Zibanejad 49. M Tkachuk 50. C Hart Of this group a few notable guys missed out as in JT Miller, Markstrom from Van but must have been close. But playoffs, pedigrees, health and future expectations all come into play and who gets bumped out? Zibanejad and M Tkachuk near the end makes it awfully hard to argue who is more deserving. Also noted that Vegas, WNP and TB has the most guys on this list...TB’s are much much higher though. What do you think? Any big misses? Anyone way too high? I put more stock into THN’s rankings for the most part given who does it, then a lot of other’s that do it (Bleecher, the Hockey Writers, SN and NHL.com)... NHL.com had EP ranked as 16 best centre ... and Horvat didn’t make the cut at all. Edited December 3, 2020 by IBatch 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 Also think Svecknikov and especially Hamilton are notable guys that have decent - great reasons to make the top 50... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 Also think that a decade later both Crosby and Ovi are so awesome. Ovi is getting a lot of Howe comparisons given his durability and not slowing down one bit so far, and Crosby is making a case for himself to be one of the few players to end up on the Mt Rushmore of guys like Howe, Orr, Gretzky and Mario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crabcakes Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 Horvat > Tkachuk 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 hours ago, IBatch said: Hi folks. Thought it might be fun to discuss where CDCers think the current top 50 best players in the league. For the first time in a decade or so the Canucks had three players make top 50 in The Hockey News annual top 50 before the start of the season...that’s incredible. EP at 8...QHs at 45 and Horvat at 47. Their top 50 went like this: 1. Mackinnon 2. McDavid 3. Crosby 4. Panarin 5. Pastrnak 6. Draisatl 7. Hedman 8. EP 9. Point 10. Kucherov 11. Marchand 12. Mathews 13. Eichel 14. Kane 15. Ovi 16. Hellebuyck 17. Vasilevsky 18. Malkin 19. Josi 20. Barkov 21. Seth Jones 22. O’Reilly 23. Carlson 24. Pietrangelo 25. Scheifele 26. Aho 27. Marner 28. Heiskanen 29. Stone 30. Barzal 31. Bergeron 32. Werenski 33. Rantanen 34. Huberdeau 35. Price 36. Couturier 37. Rask 38. P Luc-Dubois 39. Tavares 40. Lehner 41. Slavin 42. Connor 43. Theodore 44. Makar 45. Q Hughes 46. Laine 47. Horvat 48. Zibanejad 49. M Tkachuk 50. C Hutton Of this group a few notable guys missed out as in JT Miller, Markstrom from Van but must have been close. But playoffs, pedigrees, health and future expectations all come into play and who gets bumped out? Zibanejad and M Tkachuk near the end makes it awfully hard to argue who is more deserving. Also noted that Vegas, WNP and TB has the most guys on this list...TB’s are much much higher though. What do you think? Any big misses? Anyone way too high? I put more stock into THN’s rankings for the most part given who does it, then a lot of other’s that do it (Bleecher, the Hockey Writers, SN and NHL.com)... NHL.com had EP ranked as 16 best centre ... and Horvat didn’t make the cut at all. lol typically BS list, where is Petey 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Squamfan said: lol typically BS list, where is Petey lol what does that even mean? ... you don’t feel Petey is high enough? Just give him time ha ha. Already has more playoff points then quite a few of the “new and improved” Laughs. Edited December 3, 2020 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, IBatch said: lol what does that even mean? ... you don’t feel Petey is high enough? Just give him time ha ha. Already has more playoff points then quite a few of the “new and improved” Laughs. he is not even on the list 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hamhuis Hip Check Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Squamfan said: he is not even on the list Petterson? Hes number 8 1 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromeslab Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Squamfan said: he is not even on the list #8 EP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromeslab Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Crabcakes said: Horvat > Tkachuk Agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Good list , I agree with most of it. By next year EP will be in the top 4 and Hughes in the top 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Silky mitts said: Good list , I agree with most of it. By next year EP will be in the top 4 and Hughes in the top 20 Petey got a bump in this list due to finding his playoff game, for sure. That might have ben my favourite part of the run, watching Petey find mad Petey. 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronic.Canuck Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Petey got a bump in this list due to finding his playoff game, for sure. That might have ben my favourite part of the run, watching Petey find mad Petey. Totally, I think based on only the regular season it would be hard to put EP ahead of Matthews and Eichel juuuust yet. After this next year I don't find it difficult to believe. Same with Kucherov and Marchand who have both hit 100 points. If Petey's playoff performance definitely bumps him up a couple spots then I'd say Kucherov's cup win probably does the same for him lol. Overall this is a pretty good list. Aho is a bit low and Couturier is a bit high. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) Honestly I think Pettersson is a little too high. I don't think he's quite a top 10 player in the league yet, close but not quite there. However, after this year I can see him cracking that group. Really glad to see Makar and Hughes right next to each other as I think they are incredibly comparable at this point in time and some lists were saying otherwise. Add in Theodore being next to them and that's one heck of a young d group to watch going forward. Edited December 3, 2020 by Diamonds Sentence clarity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Carter Hutton at 50 ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Chronic.Canucks.Fan said: Totally, I think based on only the regular season it would be hard to put EP ahead of Matthews and Eichel juuuust yet. After this next year I don't find it difficult to believe. Same with Kucherov and Marchand who have both hit 100 points. If Petey's playoff performance definitely bumps him up a couple spots then I'd say Kucherov's cup win probably does the same for him lol. Overall this is a pretty good list. Aho is a bit low and Couturier is a bit high. these lists are always super subjective. If I'm being honest, I don't know that I would have ranked Petey above Kucherov quite yet. Somewhere in the top 15 tho. Edited December 3, 2020 by Jimmy McGill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Crabcakes said: Horvat > Tkachuk Not sure if this is serious or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronic.Canuck Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: these lists are always super subjective. If I'm being honest, I don't know that I would have ranked Petey above Kucherov quite yet. Somewhere in the top 15 tho. Yeah I think swapping Petey and Kuch would have done it. Much better than the NHL.com list as someone already mentioned anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) I've been a big fan of Horvat, and probably one of the few who's always thought he's capable of 70 points along with a strong 2 way game. Great to see him on the list, but no way would I put him ahead of Zibanejad right now. EP at 8th is very high at this stage of his career. I hope they're right. Edited December 3, 2020 by Master Mind 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Master Mind Posted December 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2020 39 minutes ago, mll said: Carter Hutton at 50 ? Surely a typo, but I could see Hutton as the 50th best goaltender. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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