higgyfan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Bure_Pavel said: I'm saying if the numbers of the protest grow to a large enough size, it might be a good idea to listen to what they have to say, and see if there are any requests that seem reasonable and could benefit all parties. Most of the protesters left on Sunday to return to their lives. The leftovers appear to be more of the radical fringe variation. Lots of partying and annoying the locals. Initially, the group was there to protest government mandates during the pandemic. Now it has morphed into some ridiculous and impossible demands. Regardless, most of the provincial and federal health officials are predicting a reduction in restrictions in the upcoming weeks. The reason Europe is ahead of us, is because they were the first countries to get swamped with Omicron. Personally, I don't see the point of mandatory vaccines anymore; except maybe the healthcare workers, as they are the most visible representatives of the healthcare system. The very system that has promoted the notion that vaccines are the best way to keep people from dying or getting ill from Covid. BC has one of the highest vaccine rates in the world; far higher than the health authorities ever dreamed of. It's time to stop all the fighting with the small % of folks that will NEVER agree to get the jab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, I.Am.Ironman said: They also tried that earlier in the pandemic and got wrecked And bear in mind the people in Sweden are in general a fair bit more healthier than us in North America (I'm unsure of the smoking rates though as COVID isn't something you mess with if you have respitory issues). As I said before, I highly doubt you see restaurants like the "Heart Attack Grill" in Sweden, though I've never been there so this is just me speculating. Edited February 5, 2022 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 These domestic terrorists must be stopped and police have failed horribly in stopping them. A shameful stain on our nation's reputation that radicalized alt right wing protesters are causing shelter in place warnings for health care staff simply for being healthcare workers Conservatives have poured gas on the fire and now must own the blame for stoking the protests. This is not freedom and nor is it democracy this radicalized anti vaxx anti mandate crowd is preaching https://bc.ctvnews.ca/vancouver-health-authorities-warn-staff-to-shelter-and-hide-medical-credentials-during-anti-vaxx-convoy-1.5769041 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Personally, I don't see the point of mandatory vaccines anymore; except maybe the healthcare workers, as they are the most visible representatives of the healthcare system. The very system that has promoted the notion that vaccines are the best way to keep people from dying or getting ill from Covid. BC has one of the highest vaccine rates in the world; far higher than the health authorities ever dreamed of. It's time to stop all the fighting with the small % of folks that will NEVER agree to get the jab. And we won;t be fighting with them as soon as they stop getting the idea that they deserve the same privileges as the rest of us, since they're the ones throwing a tantrum and sending domestic terrorists into Ottawa. There is zero benefit in letting those morons into restaurants, bars, concerts, or sporting events. Not our problem if they can't handle the consequences for their own stupidity. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: And we won;t be fighting with them as soon as they stop getting the idea that they deserve the same privileges as the rest of us, since they're the ones throwing a tantrum and sending domestic terrorists into Ottawa. There is zero benefit in letting those morons into restaurants, bars, concerts, or sporting events. Not our problem if they can't handle the consequences for their own stupidity. I guess I'm thinking...wishing...hoping for the virus to fade away and we can all start to recover from the last 2 horrible years. No Pandemic has ever lasted forever. It will come to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, higgyfan said: I guess I'm thinking...wishing...hoping for the virus to fade away and we can all start to recover from the last 2 horrible years. No Pandemic has ever lasted forever. It will come to an end. Fair, but I just don't see how allowing these parasites to get privileges they don't deserve and further tax our medical system makes things any better. I honestly don't want them to ever be allowed to be around civilized people again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Fair, but I just don't see how allowing these parasites to get privileges they don't deserve and further tax our medical system makes things any better. I honestly don't want them to ever be allowed to be around civilized people again. Geez,Heff...you really should take some time away from this thread. Go and have some fun. Forget about all this crap for awhile. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 I'll take this moment to apologize to kingheffy. I think I was only trying to encourage good discussion re: Tofino and surfing on the wrong day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 48 minutes ago, gizmo2337 said: I'll take this moment to apologize to kingheffy. I think I was only trying to encourage good discussion re: Tofino and surfing on the wrong day. Accepted. Can we now agree this isn't exactly as peaceful as you'd hoped? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 5 hours ago, King Heffy said: Fair, but I just don't see how allowing these parasites to get privileges they don't deserve and further tax our medical system makes things any better. I honestly don't want them to ever be allowed to be around civilized people again. If only there were some sort of camp we could send them to… …I’d warn you of a slippery slope, but seems you’re already sliding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, D-Money said: If only there were some sort of camp we could send them to… …I’d warn you of a slippery slope, but seems you’re already sliding. I'm pretty ok with the way things are now. If you want to compare that to concentration camps, that's your issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I'm pretty ok with the way things are now. If you want to compare that to concentration camps, that's your issue. You’re the one talking about permanently segregating people from civilized society. And nothing is static. Things change, based on attitudes and values. The horn you’re blowing doesn’t lead to good things. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, D-Money said: You’re the one talking about permanently segregating people from civilized society. And nothing is static. Things change, based on attitudes and values. The horn you’re blowing doesn’t lead to good things. You're the one building strawmen suggesting sending them to camps. I never suggested that. These dirtbags are clearly not civilized and are more than welcome to join society when they start acting like adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canuck Surfer Posted February 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, D-Money said: If only there were some sort of camp we could send them to… …I’d warn you of a slippery slope, but seems you’re already sliding. There is a difference between ''sending them to a camp.'' And having a hall pass. Transmission will occur, those willing to work at reducing it? Should have more rights to a drink at their local than someone who flaunts public health. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D-Money Posted February 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: There is a difference between ''sending them to a camp.'' And having a hall pass. Transmission will occur, those willing to work at reducing it? Should have more rights to a drink at their local than someone who flaunts public health. I’m not saying I’m against the current health measures. But Heffy seemed to be suggesting that we should permanently segregate people, even after the pandemic has faded. Regardless, my issue is the language, the vitriol, the hate. They’re all people, who by nature each has as much value as you or I. People are often scared, confused, and even emotionally unstable by what’s going on. Lashing out at them as if they’re subhuman is dangerous, just like spreading anti-vax ideas. And I don’t like where these attitudes are leading for society as a whole. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canuck Surfer Posted February 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, D-Money said: I’m not saying I’m against the current health measures. Fair enough thanks. 2 minutes ago, D-Money said: Regardless, my issue is the language, the vitriol, the hate. They’re all people I do not disagree. We have to concentrate on behaviours. And rewarding the wrong ones. If i block Ottawa with my truck, I can cross the border without rules associated for everyone else? There is plenty of vitriol in anti vaxers themselves. I was told that people don't die of Covid. They die because they have diabetes, are overweight, old. Not young and healthy, fit. ie a master race of fit and invincibility. It just denial, and a massive communication of disinformation. Because said anti vaxers are inconvenienced. Not willing to accept it. There will be inconveniences. My mum is 83. I don't want her to die because someone won't wear a mask on the sky train. She should stay home so ''they'' don't have to wear a mask. That's selfish! If govt. has to make these items because people will not participate otherwise. Its a decision we need them to make. Measures that slow transmission are something to endorse in the name of public health. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, D-Money said: I’m not saying I’m against the current health measures. But Heffy seemed to be suggesting that we should permanently segregate people, even after the pandemic has faded. Regardless, my issue is the language, the vitriol, the hate. They’re all people, who by nature each has as much value as you or I. People are often scared, confused, and even emotionally unstable by what’s going on. Lashing out at them as if they’re subhuman is dangerous, just like spreading anti-vax ideas. And I don’t like where these attitudes are leading for society as a whole. Meh. They’ve harassed people working in soap kitchens. Urinated on war monuments. Desecrated Terry Fox’s statue. Held hostage people in Ottawa. Etc, etc. You are a far more forgiving person than I. This isn’t just a person acting like an asshat to me but putting other people’s lives in danger. Those truckers should have more to fear from Elon Musk’s driverless trucks than any jab. Edited February 5, 2022 by NewbieCanuckFan 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 The supreme irony of the "everyone should be able to eat at restaurants, rescind vaxx passports because we're all gonna get it; never wear a mask" crowd, constantly complaining about participation trophies shouldn't be lost on anyone 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, D-Money said: If only there were some sort of camp we could send them to… …I’d warn you of a slippery slope, but seems you’re already sliding. you know, that kind of comparison is really sick. This is so pathetically minuscule compared to what happened in WW2, you should be ashamed of yourself for bringing this kind of comparison up. 6 hours ago, D-Money said: They’re all people, who by nature each has as much value as you or I. So how far does this go for you? what's the line that they would cross for you to be upset by their actions? Edited February 5, 2022 by JM_ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, Warhippy said: The supreme irony of the "everyone should be able to eat at restaurants, rescind vaxx passports because we're all gonna get it; never wear a mask" crowd, constantly complaining about participation trophies shouldn't be lost on anyone Darwin never runs out of participation trophies. Feel sorry only for the people they may infect as they venture down that path. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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