Coronavirus outbreak

[cuporbust]

1 hour ago, bishopshodan said:

Im just pointing out Dix and BHen spoke about the icu numbers in their pressers all along.

 

They are the government. Listen to their words if you dont trust reporting on it. You dont need to go to cbc, there are many other sources. 

 

 

I'm not saying you shouldn't  trust the cbc , I'm ssaying you literally can't.  People are entitled to their own opinions,  not their own facts . When news stations manipulate facts to relay an opinion,  it's not longer news.  

 

Unfortunately the cbc is affiliated with dozens if other " news" media sources. It's not just them. Same thing that happened in the states with fox and CNN becoming political propaganda shows instead of news sources.  It's not just a few stations , and both left, and right are doing the same things . 

 

Conflict of interest principals were made law for this very reason. Unfortunately,  just like other forms of law , rich, powerful and intelligent men and woman finds ways around them. I see it in real estate EVERY single day being done by so called " well respected" business people. It's not conspiracy,  it's truth.

 

It's widely accepted that Politics requires manipulation and dishonest.  That's where terms like " playing politics " , " office politics " and others came from. It's sad to see people totally trust people in one of the lowest careers  with standards for character. Very smart people with allot of money and resources.  It's scary as hell to see what people have been willing to ignore throughout this entire pandemic. 

Edited February 10, 2022 by cuporbust

[WeneedLumme]

One of my friends is a nurse. After years of hard work, she became an RN in the spring of 2020, early in Covid, and was looking forward to helping people while making a good living at the same time. She certainly had no problem getting a job, but within one year she was seriously considering quitting and finding a new career.

 

An endless string of 60+ hour work weeks with very little time off, not because she wanted that much work, but because she was needed, was burning her out. And then add to that, she became reluctant to tell people what she did for a living and started to feel like a pariah because some people assumed that any contact with her would infect them with Covid. And to add insult to injury, other people choose to exercise their "right to free speech" by harassing healthcare workers.

 

Another friend of mine has cancer. He is becoming increasingly stressed out and depressed over it because he cannot get surgery to have the tumor removed, since even though the longer he waits the greater the chance that he will die from it, this is considered to be "elective surgery".

 

The purpose of all the Covid restrictions and rules was to prevent the pandemic from overwhelming the healthcare system as it has in many places, to prevent things like this from happening.

 

So when I see the mindless stupidity and arrogance of the truckers holding our country hostage, and the blatantly dishonest crap that some of the posters who infest this and other similar threads insist on spouting, and we all know who they are, it nauseates me. Sorry for the long rant.

 

Edited February 10, 2022 by WeneedLumme

[NewbieCanuckFan]

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edit:  too much in bad taste...even for me.

Edited February 10, 2022 by NewbieCanuckFan

[Warhippy]

3 hours ago, cuporbust said:

Well, the glaring issue for me is article after article after article by a media outlet ( the cbc that took 600 million dollars from the liberal government when at the point of bankruptcy ) saying over and over that hospital staff is working double shifts , the hospitals are totally overrun and overwhelmed with icu patients,  so go get ur vaccine.  This is one example of complete manipulation during this pandemic.  How the F can anyone seriously blindly trust the interpretation of " the science " when they have proven you can't? It's seriously unbelievable.  

cbc never took $600 million...you still parrot that but have no idea what it means or where the totality of the $600 million fund went. There is or was a promise to increase funding for the CBC AND various Canadian media outlets including arts and original programming.

 

but somehow you expect to be believed speaking about health matters

Edited February 10, 2022 by Warhippy

[Warhippy]

25 minutes ago, cuporbust said:

I'm not saying you shouldn't  trust the cbc , I'm ssaying you literally can't.  People are entitled to their own opinions,  not their own facts . When news stations manipulate facts to relay an opinion,  it's not longer news.  

 

Unfortunately the cbc is affiliated with dozens if other " news" media sources. It's not just them. Same thing that happened in the states with fox and CNN becoming political propaganda shows instead of news sources.  It's not just a few stations , and both left, and right are doing the same things . 

 

Conflict of interest principals were made law for this very reason. Unfortunately,  just like other forms of law , rich, powerful and intelligent men and woman finds ways around them. I see it in real estate EVERY single day being done by so called " well respected" business people. It's not conspiracy,  it's truth.

 

It's widely accepted that Politics requires manipulation and dishonest.  That's where terms like " playing politics " , " office politics " and others came from. It's sad to see people totally trust people in one of the lowest careers  with standards for character. Very smart people with allot of money and resources.  It's scary as hell to see what people have been willing to ignore throughout this entire pandemic. 

Just so we're clear.

 

When "MSM" all report the same stuff, show the same videos.  Have the same stories.  It isn't because they're pushing a narrative.  it's because THOSE are the facts as they exist.  Keanne Bexte did not and does not magically find some nefarious scheme to push a narrative.  he IS pushing a narrative by suggesting something other than what's been reported has happened

 

The talking heads, the Keannes, the Carlsons, Hannity's.  The opinion columnists who literally only exist to screech at the tv and rant for an hour are the people pushing narratives.

 

To claim "you literally can not trust CBC" is to simply pretend that somehow someway they are not reporting the truth, but you can produce an oilers chance at the playoffs in terms of evidence to support that.

Which is why you claim they took $600 million and are a liberal mouthpiece.  Because you can not fathom a world in which the truth is as simple and open as it comes.  You NEED to believe something else because it doesn't jive with your emotional leanings.  Nothing more.

[Warhippy]

1 hour ago, cuporbust said:

I'm not taking things off a joe rogan podcast .  

 

 

I mean this is all real, official government web sites, and people think anything outside of media headlines is a conspiracy? 

 

 

I mean look for f sakes! You don't find CBC s articles strange after what I said , and after seeing this ? It's on the official liberal party web site for God sakes! Lol. I'm an idiot for not trusting this main media outlet to direct my thoughts on the pandemic? Sweet baby Jesus,  these are insane times .

 

 

And again, you read none of that.  You googled and screen shot something and are suggesting something other than the bare truth.

 

This is called pushing a narrative.

[RUPERTKBD]

2 hours ago, cuporbust said:

I'm not taking things off a joe rogan podcast .  

 

 

I mean this is all real, official government web sites, and people think anything outside of media headlines is a conspiracy? 

 

 

I mean look for f sakes! You don't find CBC s articles strange after what I said , and after seeing this ? It's on the official liberal party web site for God sakes! Lol. I'm an idiot for not trusting this main media outlet to direct my thoughts on the pandemic? Sweet baby Jesus,  these are insane times .

 

 

This is just dumb....

 

The CBC is publicly funded, That means it was funded by the Trudeau government....and the Harper government....and the Martin government......and the Mulroney government....

 

Your "smoking gun" is actually a water pistol.....

Edited February 10, 2022 by RUPERTKBD

[RUPERTKBD]

1 hour ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

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edit:  too much in bad taste...even for me.

I find that hard to believe.....

[DrJockitch]

4 hours ago, cuporbust said:

Well, the glaring issue for me is article after article after article by a media outlet ( the cbc that took 600 million dollars from the liberal government when at the point of bankruptcy ) saying over and over that hospital staff is working double shifts , the hospitals are totally overrun and overwhelmed with icu patients,  so go get ur vaccine.  This is one example of complete manipulation during this pandemic.  How the F can anyone seriously blindly trust the interpretation of " the science " when they have proven you can't? It's seriously unbelievable.  

I don’t do acute care anymore but I have a lot of friends that do and some that run the ICUs and can tell you at least locally they have been over-run.  That is not manipulation but the truth of the situation in the hospitals. The hospital staff is also about the most vulnerable out there as they are constantly exposed and so quarantined and sick staff is also adding to a system that has been pushed by politicians to minimize long-term financial liability by reducing staff to absolute minimums for the average occupancy. 
How do you relay the situation when if one news channel or source says one thing, the other feels like they need t0 say the opposite or if you are getting your news from Facebook they are designed to only tell you what you want to hear. Big part of our problem is that the news agencies ran left and right before the parties did. 

[cuporbust]

1 hour ago, DrJockitch said:

I don’t do acute care anymore but I have a lot of friends that do and some that run the ICUs and can tell you at least locally they have been over-run.  That is not manipulation but the truth of the situation in the hospitals. The hospital staff is also about the most vulnerable out there as they are constantly exposed and so quarantined and sick staff is also adding to a system that has been pushed by politicians to minimize long-term financial liability by reducing staff to absolute minimums for the average occupancy. 
How do you relay the situation when if one news channel or source says one thing, the other feels like they need t0 say the opposite or if you are getting your news from Facebook they are designed to only tell you what you want to hear. Big part of our problem is that the news agencies ran left and right before the parties did. 

I do as well, and ur wrong. Overrun and understaffed are two different things. 

[Warhippy]

26 minutes ago, cuporbust said:

I do as well, and ur wrong. Overrun and understaffed are two different things. 

Ya?

Well my mom said the moment you're overrun you're understaffed

[-Vintage Canuck-]

B.C. COVID-19 pandemic update:

 

As of Thursday, Feb. 10, 2022, 90.3% (4,501,768) of eligible people five and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 84.9% (4,230,298) have received their second dose.

 

In addition, 93.1% (4,313,371) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine, 90.4% (4,190,362) received their second dose and 51.1% (2,366,985) have received a third dose.

 

Also, 93.4% (4,040,218) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose, 90.9% (3,929,828) received their second dose and 54.0% (2,335,461) have received a third dose.

 

B.C. is reporting 1,318 new cases of COVID-19, for a total of 337,547 cases in the province.

 

The new cases include:

• Fraser Health: 275
• Vancouver Coastal Health: 168
• Interior Health: 444
• Northern Health: 232
• Island Health: 199
• People who reside outside of Canada: none

There are 867 individuals hospitalized with COVID-19 and 138 are in intensive care.

 

Note: As of today, the number of active cases and those that have discontinued isolation have been removed from the COVID-19 pandemic update and will no longer be updated on the daily BCCDC dashboard.

 

In the past 24 hours, five new deaths have been reported, for an overall total of 2,730.

 

The new deaths include:

• Interior Health: two
• Northern Health: one
• Island Health: two

There has been one new health-care facility outbreak at Chartwell Langley Gardens (Fraser Health). The outbreaks at Evergreen House (Vancouver Coastal Health) and Creekside Landing (Interior Health) have been declared over, for a total of 53 facilities with ongoing outbreaks, including:

 

long-term care:

• George Derby Centre, Mountain View Manor, Queen's Park Care Centre, Royal City Manor, Residence at Clayton Heights, Good Samaritan Delta View Care Centre (Fraser Health)
• Village at Smith Creek, Westview Place, Pinegrove Care Centre, Hamlets at Penticton, Mount Ida Mews, Cottonwoods Care Centre, Dr. Andrew Pavillion, Poplar Ridge, Monashee Mews, Noric House, McKinney Place, Glenmore Lodge, Trinity Care Centre, Gillis House, Pondarosa, Castleview Care Centre, Overlander Residential Care, Spring Valley Care Centre, Village by the Station (Interior Health)
• Eden Gardens, Kiwanis Village Lodge, Dufferin Place, Salvation Army Sunset Lodge, James Bay Care Centre, Sunset Lodge, Echo Village, Arrowsmith Lodge, Chartwell Malaspina Care Residence, Woodgrove Manor, Amica on the Gorge, The Gardens at Qualicum Beach, Tsawaayuus Rainbow Gardens, Berwick on The Lake, Chemainus Health Care Centre, Selkirk Seniors Village, Sunridge Place, Island View Place, Nanaimo Seniors Village, Sluggett House, Glacier View Lodge, Rest Haven Lodge and Sidney All Care (Island Health)

acute care:

• Queen's Park Care Centre (Fraser Health)
• Nanaimo Regional General Hospital and Cowichan District Hospital (Island Health)

assisted or independent living:

• Chartwell Langley Gardens (Fraser Health); and
• Nanaimo Seniors Village (Island Health)

From Feb. 2-8, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 23.7% of cases. From Jan. 26 to Feb. 8, they accounted for 31.5% of hospitalizations.

 

Past week cases (Feb. 2-8) - Total 8,486

• Not vaccinated: 1,623 (19.1%)
• Partially vaccinated: 389 (4.6%)
• Fully vaccinated: 6,474 (76.3%)

Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Jan. 26 to Feb. 8) - Total 1,243

• Not vaccinated: 337 (27.1%)
• Partially vaccinated: 55 (4.4%)
• Fully vaccinated: 851 (68.5%)

Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Feb. 2-8)

• Not vaccinated: 353.0
• Partially vaccinated: 135.3
• Fully vaccinated: 138.5

Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Jan. 26 to Feb. 8)

• Not vaccinated: 92.1
• Partially vaccinated: 46.2
• Fully vaccinated: 18.1

Since December 2020, the Province has administered 11,043,787 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Pfizer Pediatric COVID-19 vaccines.

 

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022HLTH0049-000203

[DrJockitch]

1 hour ago, cuporbust said:

I do as well, and ur wrong. Overrun and understaffed are two different things. 

I think our “local” is different as we were dealing with both.

So no, wasn’t wrong though I wasn’t specific in location. 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo]

1 hour ago, cuporbust said:

I do as well, and ur wrong. Overrun and understaffed are two different things. 

I thought your mommy worked in healthcare? 

[Me_]

[WeneedLumme]

1 hour ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said:

I thought your mommy worked in healthcare? 

If she does, she has probably disowned him. Can you imagine working in healthcare and having a son like that?

[cuporbust]

2 hours ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said:

I thought your mommy worked in healthcare? 

Lol. Yep

[cuporbust]

9 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said:

If she does, she has probably disowned him. Can you imagine working in healthcare and having a son like that?

Was that the best you could come up with ? 

[johngould21]

Found out this afternoon that my brother, (a kidney transplant recipient) has all the awful symptoms of Covid. Cold, sore throat, head aches, runny nose, and loss of smell. He tested positive and was put in Kelowna Hospital on an IV that is a new method for treating compromised patients. This takes a couple of hours to complete this process, but apparently it really is ground breaking. He takes anti rejection drugs for his new kidney, donated by his wife 3 years ago. She also has all the symptoms but has tested negative. 

So when I hear of these anti mandate morons walking on the face of the earth, protesting anything and all, I get very angry. Am I being selfish, for blaming these ignorant bastards, that are the reason why we are never going to get out of this situation? What about my brothers rights and freedoms? What about his wife, and her rights and freedoms? Round the bastards up and throw them in the slammer. They don't know what in hell they're protesting over, and probably half of them aren't truck drivers either.

[Me_]

39 minutes ago, johngould21 said:

Found out this afternoon that my brother, (a kidney transplant recipient) has all the awful symptoms of Covid. Cold, sore throat, head aches, runny nose, and loss of smell. He tested positive and was put in Kelowna Hospital on an IV that is a new method for treating compromised patients. This takes a couple of hours to complete this process, but apparently it really is ground breaking. He takes anti rejection drugs for his new kidney, donated by his wife 3 years ago. She also has all the symptoms but has tested negative. 

So when I hear of these anti mandate morons walking on the face of the earth, protesting anything and all, I get very angry. Am I being selfish, for blaming these ignorant bastards, that are the reason why we are never going to get out of this situation? What about my brothers rights and freedoms? What about his wife, and her rights and freedoms? Round the bastards up and throw them in the slammer. They don't know what in hell they're protesting over, and probably half of them aren't truck drivers either.

You are not being selfish. THEY. are.

 

You are suffering. 
 

I hope your brother and his family fast recover.

 

Sorry to hear.

 

Edited February 11, 2022 by Me_