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6 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said:

Yeah again man. Their job is not to police that service. They are a data-stream. You can't blame newsweek for reporting what they are given. You are talking about a problem way above your pay grade, It's so easy to fool people.

I understand that but when US intelligence clearly shows that China is lying about their numbers, shouldn't the WHO at least explain why they are still trusting their numbers? 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Chris12345 said:

Let's kick in with some positives....

 

Who's cooking a turkey this weekend?

 

Who's drinkn? Sounds like we are day drinking on the deck...just the two of us. No invites.

Turkey breast, twice baked potatoes and my far from pedestrian carrots and peas.

 

1 hour ago, HerrDrFunk said:

If I pay $50 for a broom, it had better be the last broom I ever buy.

It's the way we used to buy and use things when we valued quality and made them here.

 

That probably would be the best broom you ever owned, come with a 5 or 10 year warranty and last 20+ years.

 

Look at appliances these days with all our technology and manufacturing enhancements they last like 5-10 years. There's still old school fridges from the 50's running like the day they were built. Why is that...? ;)

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37 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said:

Spies in China, is this all a movie hoax? News of this leak just make you misinformed ... no one knows what they knew ... you are believing another fake report. It doesn't really matter at all when they knew unless you're assigning blame. Obviously no one wanted this in a simple I missed and killed everyone sort of way, 

 

Too simple

 

Satellite death ray

well we do know for certain

that in early february

trump was the intended recipient of a detailed report

about the economic consequences of this virus issue

from navarro

 

there are also confirmed reports

that he received detailed warnings in january

from his own intelligence sources

 

and yes, there is a leak about information relayed to him in november

and no, that cannot yet be proven

but it is likely that the usa had people on the ground in china monitoring this issue

 

so make this all as fake as you wish

what you cannot explain is why bc managed this all so effectively

with all the same "non information" you apparently wish to assume trump had

not sure why bc could do a pretty damn good job

since it has fewer intelligence sources then the usa

and yet, the usa did a remarkably poorer job then bc

 

explain this outcome please

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1 hour ago, gurn said:

didn't need to. Had plenty of it at home prior to the outbreak.

I'm one of those guys that always has extra food, matches, camp stoves, bedding, fishing gear etc. ready by my door.

Nice.

 

I usually stock up when stuff on sale.  So I'm good as well.   Got camping gear.  Finally got my earthquake emergency pack together last year.  Just missing a generator. 

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2 hours ago, coastal.view said:

WHO site reporting data around coronavirus cases

continues to behave a bit erratically

only a day or 2 ago it reset / restarted its reporting period an hour early

this always appears to be done in relation to usa stats though

so the only reason i can see is that there is usa influence in this

the first time i noticed is when usa daily confirmed cases stalled at 19,999

a second/third time (i'm not sure on the order) was when the daily stat approached 30,000 and 2,000 deaths

 

the actual underlying data/numbers do not seem to be effected

but of course there is no way to really know

as if they are manipulating how numbers are reported

who knows if they are also playing with the actual numbers as well


i do not understand why WHO allows this

it is too obvious to anyone who wishes to pay attention to it

i regularly check in around 6 to 7 daily

just to see if they turnover their 24 hour clock before 7 pm (which is when it should turn over)

and i see they do not adhere to this schedule rigorously

 

so yeah, this does cause someone like me to be a bit suspicious

as it is one of the sites that i considered credible and reliable

so if anyone is interested

monitor the WHO site from about 6 to 7 pm today

the usa is about to hit a triple score in terms of data

 

should top 500,000 cases, should get to close to 35,000 newly reported cases, and should hit 2,000 deaths

 

i'm thinking none of these will happen today.. or at least will not be reported as happening

based on recent past reporting manipulation

 

at 1:40 pm today pst

usa total cases at 493,426

new cases today at 24,860

new deaths today at 1,640

 

5 1/2 hours of reporting left in today's cycle

 

yesterday usa data showed

new cases - 33,536

new deaths - 1900

(yesterday the clock reset an hour early)

 

both figures are trending to go up as they have in every day recently

so if these trends continue

usa should hit a triple in terms of new data threshold standards

 

 

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2 hours ago, Jester13 said:

I was referring to leadership in bigger policy areas, such as climate change or human rights, and not with companies being industry leaders. 

well we did come up with UN peacekeeping, and Mulroney was instrumental in convincing Regan and Thatcher to stop business with South Africa until the ended apartheid. We're still every much involved in human rights programs: https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/issues_development-enjeux_developpement/human_rights-droits_homme/advancing_rights-promouvoir_droits.aspx?lang=eng

 

So I guess its climate where you're disappointed? 

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1 hour ago, Master Mind said:

You don't think if the real numbers were released off the hop, nations wouldn't have acted more quickly? Perhaps not all, but some surely would have.

 

Then the media wouldn't have taken so long to change the narrative of it being "just a cold" to "this is more serious". Then that would have a trickle effect down to the people. Bet there would have been less traveling and get-togethers. Sure, some people would still not take it seriously, but there would be more who did take precautions.

 

The WHO director was in China when he was going on about how well they've handled it and how transparent they were with everything. Surely more due diligence could have been done.

I don't know. What were the real numbers? And why does the WHO deserve blame for not knowing them?

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4 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

The US and the WHO are different kinds of entities.

i know you are trying to say something here

 

i just cannot decipher what it is

 

yes, they are different entities

they even have different names to clearly identify they are not the same thing

 

 

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1 hour ago, Me_ said:

The sudden wake I gor out of this video is:

 

“the ability to conscript workers for essential services".

 

That has some major implications if Covid-19 is the Beast.

 

That would be really interesting to see what that could lead to.....  Forcing people to work the essential services that may not be able to do it proper.  This isn't war so it would be really intersting to see if they somehow managed to get this power what exactly they would do with it.

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6 minutes ago, coastal.view said:

i know you are trying to say something here

 

i just cannot decipher what it is

 

yes, they are different entities

they even have different names to clearly identify they are not the same thing

 

It's pretty simple: Master mind was saying that the WHO should have "investigated" the numbers that China was giving them. I asked how they were suposed to conduct that investigation. You responded with information about the US, an entity that was not being discussed, having spies in China.

 

This is why I felt it necessary to point out the difference between the USA and the WHO.

 

Clear now?

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Just now, RUPERTKBD said:

It's pretty simple: Master mind was saying that the WHO should have "investigated" the numbers that China was giving them. I asked how they were suposed to conduct that investigation. You responded with information about the US, an entity that was not being discussed, having spies in China.

 

This is why I felt it necessary to point out the difference between the USA and the WHO.

 

Clear now?

oh ok

i did not read back into all the previous posts

i don't think i even read mm's post

my bad then

 

when you raised the issue of spies

i simply pointed out the usa did have spies

who reported relevant information

 

that's the trouble with online discussion

i do not read every post.. as some are too thin based on a poster's history

 

i read yours

but obviously not always in full context

 

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