JM_ Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Warhippy said: Imagine...selling some of the largest most vital energy reserves in Canada to China. Signing a trade agreement with one of the most lopsided FIPAs in the known world. All to a nation with a history of horrific egregious human rights violations while in power Then using the subjugation of an entire race/religion of people under said nations rule during a ridiculous vote to score political talking points in hoping that the party holding power in a minority government somehow votes against it... Its almost like they want us to forget about Harper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 50 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Its almost like they want us to forget about Harper. At his point in time Harper is gone long enough to stop whinging about him in my opinion. BUt it's still his party because they're all still cabinet ministers from his rule vying for control now. Need a complete and utter reset 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 So I have 2 thoughts on this: 1) Good. What China's doing to the Uighurs needs attention and they shouldn't be able to get away with it. 2) Would the Conservatives have made the motion if they were in power or was this simply a stunt to put the Liberals in an awkward spot? Don't get me wrong. It's a good motion in my opinion, but I used to vote for the Conservatives and I've been swaying farther and farther away from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 52 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Its almost like they want us to forget about Harper. I think we all should want that.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, The Lock said: So I have 2 thoughts on this: 1) Good. What China's doing to the Uighurs needs attention and they shouldn't be able to get away with it. 2) Would the Conservatives have made the motion if they were in power or was this simply a stunt to put the Liberals in an awkward spot? Don't get me wrong. It's a good motion in my opinion, but I used to vote for the Conservatives and I've been swaying farther and farther away from them. Only two? Quelle surprise.... Seriously, I agree on both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, RUPERTKBD said: I think we all should want that.... But but.... his band! Just rocking that Sunday dress shirt! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, The Lock said: But but.... his band! Just rocking that Sunday dress shirt! I'm jealous... ...of his keyboard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, RUPERTKBD said: I'm jealous... ...of his keyboard.... To be honest I am too. I need to make more money so I can buy a Moog or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCanucks16 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Dazzle said: The UN says a lot of things. There are human rights things going on around the world. Genocide, I feel, is going to be overused word for anything going on with human rights violations. The Armenians suffered genocide, for example. Yet that in itself is not recognized by Turkey for various reasons. Calling everything a genocide will distort the significance of the word. But like I said in a previous post, China is heading in that direction. It should be noted that the Trump administration called it a genocide already. Politically convenient to do so. Yet nothing was said about Saudi Arabia/Yemen. In fact, Trump supports Saudi Arabia. My point being is that genocide is often used as a catch all word. The fact that Trump did not denounce UAE for genocide shows how it is used as a political tool, rather than accurately labelling a situation. This is what we're seeing here in Canada. Political posturing. An ethic group is being forcibly detained en masse with some members of it being involuntarily sterilized. How is genocide not an accurate label? Edited February 23, 2021 by GoCanucks16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, GoCanucks16 said: An ethic group is being forcibly detained en masse with some members of it being involuntarily sterilized. How is genocide not an accurate label? Because genocide is always brought up whenever it's convenient, and not used when it isn't. Example: US/SaudiArabia on Yemen. At what point does genocide mean anything? It seems to be used whenever you want to cast outrage at a particular group. Genocide can also be used to name anything and everything under the sun. Where are we drawing the lines on what is genocide and what isn't genocide? According to the UN standards, Yemenis are being targeted/treated in the same way as Ugihurs. After doing some research: there isn't mass sterilization, yet there are mass rapes/murders on civilians. I'm sure Yemeni rebels probably engaged in crimes against humanity too. Perhaps my position should be revised to: yes, genocide is happening. Now what? What is the difference with what's happening with Yemenis vs Ugihurs? Edited February 23, 2021 by Dazzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 So, here is my first statement I have no problem with Muslim's It is not my religion, but there are a lot of not my religion's out there So, here is my question Would you vote to allow Canada to let all Uighurs to immigrate to Canada? I am not sure how many there are, but we have plenty of land and water and alot more money than them, so I am sure, we could afford it, with a little down turn in our economy, but we would rebound eventually So would you vote yes? Let's be honest here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, janisahockeynut said: So, here is my first statement I have no problem with Muslim's It is not my religion, but there are a lot of not my religion's out there So, here is my question Would you vote to allow Canada to let all Uighurs to immigrate to Canada? I am not sure how many there are, but we have plenty of land and water and alot more money than them, so I am sure, we could afford it, with a little down turn in our economy, but we would rebound eventually So would you vote yes? Let's be honest here! I feel that if we really wanted to make a stand as United Nations we should have a lot of these 1st World countries(USA/Canada/UK/etc) offer to take them in and let them decide for themselves where they want to settle down and live freely. It would really grind the Chinese government’s gears knowing that the lot of us are standing against their tyranny. Unite together and grant them the right of freedom of choice. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: So, here is my first statement I have no problem with Muslim's It is not my religion, but there are a lot of not my religion's out there So, here is my question Would you vote to allow Canada to let all Uighurs to immigrate to Canada? I am not sure how many there are, but we have plenty of land and water and alot more money than them, so I am sure, we could afford it, with a little down turn in our economy, but we would rebound eventually So would you vote yes? Let's be honest here! I would have zero issues letting them in. Canada needs to be a leader as a human rights country. That being said, there will surely be objections (some of them rightfully so) about what we'll do with these refugees, and what about the indigenous people, as well as other marginalized people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 So, you think the average Canadian would be ok with a 25% increase in sales tax, income tax, gas tax, property tax, etc........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, The Lock said: To be honest I am too. I need to make more money so I can buy a Moog or something. Those old analog synths are just ridiculous...I want a Motif or a Prophet or something like that.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Those old analog synths are just ridiculous...I want a Motif or a Prophet or something like that.... It's too bad they're so expensive. I write music and have the Arturia bundle at least ("softsynth" simulations of those old hardware synths) so until I have the money, I at least have something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, The Lock said: It's too bad they're so expensive. I write music and have the Arturia bundle at least ("softsynth" simulations of those old hardware synths) so until I have the money, I at least have something. TBH, I think that's probably the way to go...Contoller + Modules.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, RUPERTKBD said: TBH, I think that's probably the way to go...Contoller + Modules.... It really is. There's even synths in that bundle that would cost $100K normally. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, The Lock said: It really is. There's even synths in that bundle that would cost $100K normally. lol I've got three synths right now (2 analog Korgs and a Yamaha digital) so I can get the job done, but the Arturia set up is probably my next move. The Motif and Jupiter, etc will happen when the lotto numbers come through. (I'll update my guitar setup then, as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, RUPERTKBD said: I've got three synths right now (2 analog Korgs and a Yamaha digital) so I can get the job done, but the Arturia set up is probably my next move. The Motif and Jupiter, etc will happen when the lotto numbers come through. (I'll update my guitar setup then, as well) Nice! The Arturia's worth is as they are actually modeled after the synths themselves. Another option is with UVI where they have sampled versions of a lot of those instruments. They're not going to be as in depth as Arturia, but the number of synths they have is in the 100's lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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