Harold27k Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Green refuses to use a timeout when we got blitzed and Demko stood on his head to keep it 1-0 in 1st Green's player deployment is absolutely horrible, Mikaelis and Hawrluk are not nhl ready, Beagle and Roussel are past their better days and 4/12 forward spots wasted by these 4 guys with zero offensive upside and zero physical factors We got some gems in Miller/Demko/Pettie/Boeser/Hughes/Horvat/Myers/Edler but the bottom side of the roster horrible Look am a bigtime fan but Benning left the bottom 6 with not much depth,Pearson offers little, bring up Cole Lind lets see what he can do, and hopefully Green doesnt get signed beyond this yr his team is soft and his deployment terrible, he needs to go asap 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cuporbust Posted March 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) Hawrluk could have been our best forward tonight. Maybe you need to do some Tai chi or something. Lol. Edited March 11, 2021 by cuporbust 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dazzle Posted March 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Harold27k said: Green refuses to use a timeout when we got blitzed and Demko stood on his head to keep it 1-0 in 1st Green's player deployment is absolutely horrible, Mikaelis and Hawrluk are not nhl ready, Beagle and Roussel are past their better days and 4/12 forward spots wasted by these 4 guys with zero offensive upside and zero physical factors We got some gems in Miller/Demko/Pettie/Boeser/Hughes/Horvat/Myers/Edler but the bottom side of the roster horrible Look am a bigtime fan but Benning left the bottom 6 with not much depth,Pearson offers little, bring up Cole Lind lets see what he can do, and hopefully Green doesnt get signed beyond this yr his team is soft and his deployment terrible, he needs to go asap Some posters claim I am a Benning fan. I like a lot of his stuff, especially drafting and developing, which has dramatically changed this franchise for the better. That being said, I've been adamant that keeping WD and TG (and staff) is something that he should get his ass lit for. The worst part is that TG has a far more talented roster than WD ever did, and yet... TG (114-118) https://www.hockey-reference.com/coaches/greentr01c.html vs. WD (136-144) https://www.hockey-reference.com/coaches/desjawi99c.html :| Edited March 11, 2021 by Dazzle 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, Dazzle said: Some posters claim I am a Benning fan. I like a lot of his stuff, especially drafting and developing, which has dramatically changed this franchise for the better. That being said, I've been adamant that keeping WD and TG (and staff) is something that he should get his ass lit for. The worst part is that TG has a far more talented roster than WD ever did, and yet... TG (114-118) https://www.hockey-reference.com/coaches/greentr01c.html vs. WD (136-144) https://www.hockey-reference.com/coaches/desjawi99c.html :| yea Willie D didn't have a Petey, Brock, Quin and Demko. He had Megna, Vey, Chapoo lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Trebreh said: yea Willie D didn't have a Petey, Brock, Quin and Demko. He had Megna, Vey, Chapoo lol He also had the twins, burrows and Hansen still. Granted , he had them at the tail end of their careers, but they were still good players. Not a great roster, but not a horrible one either. Horvat , tanev , hamuis, bieksa, Edler, bonino , hell even dorsett. He also had Miller and Markstrom. Miller played very well when he was here. I'd say better then demko /Holtby at the time. He had a decent roster. Edited March 11, 2021 by cuporbust 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Hawrluk could have been our best forwards tonight. Maybe you need to do some Tai chi or something. Lol. Bear chi 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: Bear chi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RU SERIOUS Posted March 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Harold27k said: Green refuses to use a timeout when we got blitzed and Demko stood on his head to keep it 1-0 in 1st Green's player deployment is absolutely horrible, Mikaelis and Hawrluk are not nhl ready, Beagle and Roussel are past their better days and 4/12 forward spots wasted by these 4 guys with zero offensive upside and zero physical factors We got some gems in Miller/Demko/Pettie/Boeser/Hughes/Horvat/Myers/Edler but the bottom side of the roster horrible Look am a bigtime fan but Benning left the bottom 6 with not much depth,Pearson offers little, bring up Cole Lind lets see what he can do, and hopefully Green doesnt get signed beyond this yr his team is soft and his deployment terrible, he needs to go asap Green never was and never will be an NHL coach. He was only ever slotted in there as a cheap Interim coach to get us through all the bad contracts. In the next 18 months most of the bad contract will be burned up - unless JB hands out more Loui Erikkson type contracts - in which case we'll be doomed for another 12 years. god-forbid! Edited March 11, 2021 by RU SERIOUS 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirotashi Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Harold27k said: Green refuses to use a timeout when we got blitzed and Demko stood on his head to keep it 1-0 in 1st Green's player deployment is absolutely horrible, Mikaelis and Hawrluk are not nhl ready, Beagle and Roussel are past their better days and 4/12 forward spots wasted by these 4 guys with zero offensive upside and zero physical factors We got some gems in Miller/Demko/Pettie/Boeser/Hughes/Horvat/Myers/Edler but the bottom side of the roster horrible Look am a bigtime fan but Benning left the bottom 6 with not much depth,Pearson offers little, bring up Cole Lind lets see what he can do, and hopefully Green doesnt get signed beyond this yr his team is soft and his deployment terrible, he needs to go asap Could not disagree more. Michaelis and Hawrluk have been bright spots. Do you even watch bro? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirotashi Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Dazzle said: Some posters claim I am a Benning fan. I like a lot of his stuff, especially drafting and developing, which has dramatically changed this franchise for the better. That being said, I've been adamant that keeping WD and TG (and staff) is something that he should get his ass lit for. The worst part is that TG has a far more talented roster than WD ever did, and yet... TG (114-118) https://www.hockey-reference.com/coaches/greentr01c.html vs. WD (136-144) https://www.hockey-reference.com/coaches/desjawi99c.html :| How many rounds did WD win? Oh whats that? none? Oh ok. Dont tell me that argument isnt good enough we use it against the Leafs all the time. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Shirotashi said: Could not disagree more. Michaelis and Hawrluk have been bright spots. Do you even watch bro? Not quite as sold on Michaelis but Hawyrluk looks to be a really hard working guy who uses his body. He seems tentative with the puck but that is just rust I Imagine. Nice to have a real energy guy in the bottom six. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Do we really need a thread after every loss as to why the sky is falling and thinly - if at all - veiled thread as to why TG "isn't an NHL coach and never will be an NHL coach". Come on. The team has 12 million in cap sitting on the bench. And another 4 or so in overpayments on the roster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Dazzle said: Some posters claim I am a Benning fan. I like a lot of his stuff, especially drafting and developing, which has dramatically changed this franchise for the better. That being said, I've been adamant that keeping WD and TG (and staff) is something that he should get his ass lit for. The worst part is that TG has a far more talented roster than WD ever did, and yet... TG (114-118) https://www.hockey-reference.com/coaches/greentr01c.html vs. WD (136-144) https://www.hockey-reference.com/coaches/desjawi99c.html :| Rather use WD stats when he was coaching in Vancouver and not his overall stats when he also coached in L.A. Willie Desjardins (109-110) Vs Travis Green (114-119) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, IBatch said: Do we really need a thread after every loss as to why the sky is falling and thinly - if at all - veiled thread as to why TG "isn't an NHL coach and never will be an NHL coach". Come on. The team has 12 million in cap sitting on the bench. And another 4 or so in overpayments on the roster. Really? Come on man 3 years straight and this team is still relying on the goalies to bail them out to stay into games because the system is garbage, how long are you going to continue to accept this crap? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Looking at the thread title You mean from 1970? It started out poorly, losing the 1st to BUF. In fact, the Canucks have been around for over 50 years and have never even had a #1 pick. That's just mind-boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyndall2 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Bell said: Not quite as sold on Michaelis but Hawyrluk looks to be a really hard working guy who uses his body. He seems tentative with the puck but that is just rust I Imagine. Nice to have a real energy guy in the bottom six. Too bad we didn't start Holtby with the team playing peewee hockey in front of their own net. Without Demko the Habs could have been in double digits with the elite scoring chances they had all night. Demko's numbers get inflated because of the poor play in front of him. Question: What is with the Canuck players not having the ability to shoot the puck out of their own end of the ice? It is as if their sticks are made from limp spaghetti. Numerous times the Canuck players had the chance to clear the puck only to put it on the sticks of the Hab players waiting at the blueline. And Miller, again he looks lost at times out there. Passing the puck directly to the opposition and making bonehead decisions, turning back into his own zone when he is a foot from his blueline. Even peewee players know how to dump the puck out over their lines when pressured. Finally, maybe Benning should sign some players who can actually skate with the puck and with some speed. It seemed like every Hab could out skate even our few quick players. We have too many cruisers and slugs on the ice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IBatch Posted March 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: Really? Come on man 3 years straight and this team is still relying on the goalies to bail them out to stay into games because the system is garbage, how long are you going to continue to accept this crap? lol don't confuse my lamenting on silly threads after every loss for acceptance. If you really want to know my line in the sand is this year - i've already stated this in other threads but don't expect anyone to remember things about what anyone says either. To me TG isn't perfect - neither is any coach (good ones get fired too) - he's had just over one full season with a decent roster to work with and hasn't sh!t the bed as bad as some think he has. For sure he needs to take responsibility for not having the troops ready this year. And needs to earn an extension at this point - which i suggested would be playoffs this year or very close at least. Too many posters think we have a great roster now - we simply do not. We have a young roster - going through growing pains - with 12 million in cap sitting on the bench. I'm fine with change - i'm also fine with TG earning a contract too. Have to weigh realism with expectations no? It's tiresome defending this team - anyone can just say " I demand the best of the best of the best" and decide that makes it ok to spam the site with a ton of crap too. Delusional. Maybe i preach patience more then some can stand - too bad - it is what it is, it could be worse - a lot worse. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Michaelis is a floater, too small for bottom 6. He needs to be in Utica paying his dues. Roussel has been almost invisible. He has his moments but they are few and far between. Mac needs more ice time. Bring up Lind or Gadz for a look. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 7 hours ago, IBatch said: lol don't confuse my lamenting on silly threads after every loss for acceptance. If you really want to know my line in the sand is this year - i've already stated this in other threads but don't expect anyone to remember things about what anyone says either. To me TG isn't perfect - neither is any coach (good ones get fired too) - he's had just over one full season with a decent roster to work with and hasn't sh!t the bed as bad as some think he has. For sure he needs to take responsibility for not having the troops ready this year. And needs to earn an extension at this point - which i suggested would be playoffs this year or very close at least. Too many posters think we have a great roster now - we simply do not. We have a young roster - going through growing pains - with 12 million in cap sitting on the bench. I'm fine with change - i'm also fine with TG earning a contract too. Have to weigh realism with expectations no? It's tiresome defending this team - anyone can just say " I demand the best of the best of the best" and decide that makes it ok to spam the site with a ton of crap too. Delusional. Maybe i preach patience more then some can stand - too bad - it is what it is, it could be worse - a lot worse. Okay fair enough he needs to earn it, but when I see the same crap for 3 years straight of the same system, having your goalies bail out your team more than 50% of the time throughout a season just to have a chance and steal you games you had no business winning, he's had plenty of time to earn it and he's failed miserably with the same stuff happening for the last 3 years. It could be worse... It could better much better. You really think a coach like AV would of struggled for this many years with the players Green has coached? Even when the Canucks had no expectations to win a coach like AV got them to win his system proved to work, Greens system has proved not to work. And btw I never liked AV but I acknowledge later his system worked the players bought in and it worked, even if Gillis told him to coach more offensively eventually(that was the rumor back then), but Greens system has showed no promise. The one thing I'll give you a little leeway on is the cap thing for this year, but that doesn't work for the previous years unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogersTowell Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 On 3/11/2021 at 5:21 PM, ChuckNORRIS4Cup said: You really think a coach like AV would of struggled for this many years with the players Green has coached? Even when the Canucks had no expectations to win a coach like AV got them to win his system proved to work, Greens system has proved not to work. When did AV get the Canucks to win when they had no expectation to win? He always had a pretty strong roster to work with and had time for the WCE era to hand off the reigns to the Sedin era with some crossover. After the last cup run to the finals he couldn't get a playoff series win after leading the league in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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