Smashian Kassian Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 It would be awesome if we could move up to get Jiricek. Wonder if he'd be there at 7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucknAsia Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: It would be awesome if we could move up to get Jiricek. Wonder if he'd be there at 7. All it takes is two teams to choose players lower in the rankings than we are seeing. Its such an 'even' draft this year it could be very close to what we see in mock drafts or it could be all over the place...will be interesting to see for sure as there really is nobody who's separated themselves from the pack. Even Wright seems like a "well we think he's going to be good so...." vs clear cut best in the draft Edited June 6, 2022 by NucknAsia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 47 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: It would be awesome if we could move up to get Jiricek. Wonder if he'd be there at 7. It would be very risky to trade up to #7, assuming Jiricek is there (if that's their target). I think Nemec will go Top 3, and once he's gone, another team might react and grab Jiricek. I wonder, maybe the Canucks are interested in the #2 - to take Nemec, not Slafkovsky. Hughes - Nemec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S N Y P E R S 7 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Another name to keep an eye on, aside from Nolan Collins, for the late rounds:Joel Kjellberg. And I don't think he's related to PewDiePie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pure961089 Posted June 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) https://thehockeywriters.com/ryan-chesley-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/ Ryan Chesley would be a perfect pick at #15 He's a slam dunk Edited June 7, 2022 by Pure961089 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 On 6/6/2022 at 5:07 AM, Beary Sweet said: Anyone down to see some drama this offseason especially during the draft when PA could dangle Miller? We could receive a king’s ransom like pair of high picks such as 1st, 2nd and a prospect for instance. There can be a variety of trade offers that can be put together. Hopefully we can stockpile picks while we can with the high end players we could be putting out on the market NJD is the interesting team for me. They're too good to be drafting 2nd overall and have too many good individual pieces to still be so crap. I wonder if they're willing to stop rebuilding and make a big jump to complement their top guys like Hughes. To be honest they need depth and goaltending, but I wonder if they'd be keen on a big top guy like Miller to elevate their play. Miller for 2nd OA straight up? Maybe we throw in a pick? This would only happen if NJD admit they want to go for it and make other moves (eg. sign decent bonified UFA players who can help them now). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 https://thehockeywriters.com/rutger-mcgroarty-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/ This is what the Canucks need in their prospect pool 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S N Y P E R S 7 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Pure961089 said: https://thehockeywriters.com/ryan-chesley-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/ Ryan Chesley would be a perfect pick at #15 He's a slam dunk Uh... have you watched Ches play? He shouldn't go in the top 30, let alone the top 15. His ineptitude from the o blueline in, along with his skating—which is NOT NHL-ready—makes him chase the play a good 69% of the time. Solid option in round 2-3 is my take. He's really forgettable. When you watch games, you're looking for guys in the game that catch your eye and are like "wow, who's that?" Ryan Chesley is not one of those players... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 12 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: NJD is the interesting team for me. They're too good to be drafting 2nd overall and have too many good individual pieces to still be so crap. I wonder if they're willing to stop rebuilding and make a big jump to complement their top guys like Hughes. To be honest they need depth and goaltending, but I wonder if they'd be keen on a big top guy like Miller to elevate their play. Miller for 2nd OA straight up? Maybe we throw in a pick? This would only happen if NJD admit they want to go for it and make other moves (eg. sign decent bonified UFA players who can help them now). This sounds far more likely to me, should NJD be interested in Miller... See a lot of suggestions of how much we are going get back for Miller, but if we could trade Miller for 2OA, I would be dancing for joy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucknAsia Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Pure961089 said: https://thehockeywriters.com/ryan-chesley-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/ Ryan Chesley would be a perfect pick at #15 He's a slam dunk Good size already too 6'0 195, likely hit 6'1'' or 6'2'' when he's stopped growing...and add on another 10-15 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucknAsia Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, S N Y P E R S 7 said: Uh... have you watched Ches play? He shouldn't go in the top 30, let alone the top 15. His ineptitude from the o blueline in, along with his skating—which is NOT NHL-ready—makes him chase the play a good 69% of the time. Solid option in round 2-3 is my take. He's really forgettable. When you watch games, you're looking for guys in the game that catch your eye and are like "wow, who's that?" Ryan Chesley is not one of those players... isn't he ranked around 20-25? a bit of a reach for us for sure..but I don't think he's seen as poor as you suggest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, S N Y P E R S 7 said: Uh... have you watched Ches play? He shouldn't go in the top 30, let alone the top 15. His ineptitude from the o blueline in, along with his skating—which is NOT NHL-ready—makes him chase the play a good 69% of the time. Solid option in round 2-3 is my take. He's really forgettable. When you watch games, you're looking for guys in the game that catch your eye and are like "wow, who's that?" Ryan Chesley is not one of those players... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Mckeens top 32: https://www.mckeenshockey.com/nhl-blog/mckeens-hockey-2022-nhl-draft-final-rankings-top-32/ Pretty standard list, has Kulich pegged for 15 with Mateychuk still on the board lowest I’ve seen Kasper in awhile, listening to Mocks most have Kasper around the 10-16 spot Mcgroarty isn’t in the first round 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 47 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Mckeens top 32: https://www.mckeenshockey.com/nhl-blog/mckeens-hockey-2022-nhl-draft-final-rankings-top-32/ Pretty standard list, has Kulich pegged for 15 with Mateychuk still on the board lowest I’ve seen Kasper in awhile, listening to Mocks most have Kasper around the 10-16 spot Mcgroarty isn’t in the first round Just curious, with many widely varying rankings and mocks, which do people trust the most or find most realistic? It seems almost for everyone, most decisions are understandable, but then there are select players that just seem wildly out of place from one ranking to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Just now, theo5789 said: Just curious, with many widely varying rankings and mocks, which do people trust the most or find most realistic? It seems almost for everyone, most decisions are understandable, but then there are select players that just seem wildly out of place from one ranking to another. Craig Button has been at or near the top of most accurate for a while. These should give you an idea of which scouts are more accurate: http://www.mynhldraft.com/2018-draft/2018-nhl-draft-rankings http://www.mynhldraft.com/2017-draft/2017-nhl-draft-rankings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucknAsia Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 hours ago, S N Y P E R S 7 said: Uh... have you watched Ches play? He shouldn't go in the top 30, let alone the top 15. His ineptitude from the o blueline in, along with his skating—which is NOT NHL-ready—makes him chase the play a good 69% of the time. Solid option in round 2-3 is my take. He's really forgettable. When you watch games, you're looking for guys in the game that catch your eye and are like "wow, who's that?" Ryan Chesley is not one of those players... NHL.com Adam Kimmelman has us taking Chesley at 15 Mike Morreale Edmonton taking him at 29 pretty wide range of opinion! Interestingly, Morreale doesn't have Miro going first round but Kimmelman has him going at 32 to AZ Personally, I take Miro at 15 if we can't move up and snag a top RD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AngryElf Posted June 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2022 49 minutes ago, JM_ said: Craig Button has been at or near the top of most accurate for a while. These should give you an idea of which scouts are more accurate: http://www.mynhldraft.com/2018-draft/2018-nhl-draft-rankings http://www.mynhldraft.com/2017-draft/2017-nhl-draft-rankings I already knew Corey Pronman is a hack but that 2017 board is incredible. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 On 6/6/2022 at 1:31 PM, Bure_Pavel said: 15 FC RANK 14 GEEKIE CONOR C WINNIPEG ICE WHL 6'3” 172 lbs 79 FC RANK 68 WARREN NOAH D GATINEAU OLYMPIQUES QMJHL 6'5” 214 lbs 111 FC RANK 999 RINZEL SAM D CHASKA HIGH USHS-MN 6'4” 181 lbs 143 FC RANK 999 LUND CAMERON RW GREEN BAY GAMBLERS USHL 6'2” 181 lbs 175 FC RANK 999 YAKUPOV RAUL C NEFTEKHIMIK NIZHNEKAMSK KHL 6'1” 168 lbs 207 FC RANK 999 MORAVEC DAVID D BK MLADA BOLESLAV CZECHIA 6'0” 179 lbs Had no idea there was another Yakupov in the draft? Looks like it's Nail's cousin. Has pretty good MHL numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucknAsia Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 I always like to look through rankings and look for kids who've had incredible ppg numbers who are not ranked at the very top of the first round, and then go read the scouting reports on them to see why. Sometimes its skating, sometimes its size, etc. The one player I don't really understand why he's so low is Isaac Howard. He's not small he's 5'10' 183 lbs....so he'll probably top out at 6'0'' or more He's played for the USNDP and excelled, is apparently a strong skater, competitor etc. His last 60 games he has 60-33-49-82...those are some solid numbers. That's 1.37 ppg For instance the following players have ppg's of: Shane Wright: 1.49 Logan Cooley: 1.47 Matt Savoie: 1.42 Frank Nazar: 1.25 Connor Geekie: 1,11 They say this about him Isaac Howard is an offensively gifted forward, a natural scorer who is developing into an excellent playmaker as well. He scored 54 goals in 91 games spread over two seasons with United States National Team Development Program Juniors, but his 71 assists have earned him a reputation for being a versatile player who can both score and set up plays. Howard has committed to the University of Minnesota-Duluth for the 2022-23 season. https://thehockeywriters.com/isaac-howard-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/ While I know ppg isn't the be all and end all, I have noticed that the higher the ppg absent being too small, or major issues in skating, does tend to translate into better odds of success in the NHL, ie you can't teach talent. I recall years ago, not sure if he still does it, someone on hockey forums basically had an algo that ranked players on ppg and adjusted for league difficulty, His algo outperformed most GM's...it was very simple...talent wins....its almost as if scouts think too much and get in their own way. Anyways, just an interesting player and curious why a player who's not small, but not big, a strong skater, with the 4th highest ppg average amongst forwards is ranked 20 and below. If that guy on Hockey Forums algo is right, this guy would likely be a potential steal. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Had no idea there was another Yakupov in the draft? Looks like it's Nail's cousin. Has pretty good MHL numbers. Yeah cousin of Nail and nephew to Rail. Tied with Michkov (way less games played) for most goals in MHL and had 5th most penalty minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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