RomanP Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 53 minutes ago, Nucksfollower1983 said: Based on your experience it would seem that things are very different depending on the country you live in. I never said I was against the idea of mandatory military service, just the idea of exemptions for some because those with the means to do so will exploit those exemptions. I guess it depends on the country and the type of exception. In Soviet Union the only official exception was on medical reasons. That was one of the primary routes for people to try to avoid the army. In Israel, beside the medical, there’s also exception for the ultra orthodox and there’s also a way to do a civil service instead of military one. Surprisingly, percentage of people trying to avoid service in Israel is much lower than it was in Soviet Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucksfollower1983 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 44 minutes ago, RomanP said: I guess it depends on the country and the type of exception. In Soviet Union the only official exception was on medical reasons. That was one of the primary routes for people to try to avoid the army. In Israel, beside the medical, there’s also exception for the ultra orthodox and there’s also a way to do a civil service instead of military one. Surprisingly, percentage of people trying to avoid service in Israel is much lower than it was in Soviet Union. medical exemptions are fine but they need to be legitimate, I wouldn't support religious exemptions though. I don't even support mandatory military service to be honest, I'm just saying that any exemptions need to be legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanP Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 11 hours ago, Nucksfollower1983 said: medical exemptions are fine but they need to be legitimate, I wouldn't support religious exemptions though. I don't even support mandatory military service to be honest, I'm just saying that any exemptions need to be legit. I agree on the legitimacy of exceptions. And the entire non-orthodox portion of Israeli population agrees with you on The religious exemptions lol. I forgot to add one more nugget re: Israeli military - you have to volunteer to the fighting units, they won’t just assign you there. Moreover, there’s a huge demand into these fighting units, especially into the elite ones, like Sayeret Matkal. Majority of applicants don’t get in and end up serving in less prestigious units. And it’s not just physical abilities, but also mental and in general being smart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ray_Cathode Posted January 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 12/29/2021 at 10:25 PM, RomanP said: I guess it depends on the country and the type of exception. In Soviet Union the only official exception was on medical reasons. That was one of the primary routes for people to try to avoid the army. In Israel, beside the medical, there’s also exception for the ultra orthodox and there’s also a way to do a civil service instead of military one. Surprisingly, percentage of people trying to avoid service in Israel is much lower than it was in Soviet Union. Not surprising at all, Israel is surrounded by countries that would take great pleasure in driving its citizens into the sea. The threat of death and destruction to self, family and friends is the best incentive there is actually serve. One should remember that of the 1.1 million Canadians who served in WW2, the vast majority were volunteers. People who value their freedom have not been reluctant, in this country, to demand it. And Israel’s security is far more under threat than Canada’s. That Soviet citizens were reluctant to serve is hardly surprising considering how ruthless the Soviets were in wasting their soldiers to use up German military assets. When the Nazis first conquered what later became the Soviet satellite states, the citizens of those countries at first treated the Nazis as liberators - until they showed they were at least as cruel as the Soviets. What a choice for those people: the horror you know versus the horror of the unknown. The Jews knew exactly what it meant to be citizen’s without a country, to be subject to genocide and still suffer under the threat of it - hardly surprising that given the option of fighting or assured destruction, that they choose, this time, to fight. 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canuck Luck Posted January 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 So how about that Danila Klimovich. Is he playing well lately? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Yea, now that we're all brushed up on history... I see his birthday is coming up.. Jan 9. He'll be 19! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanP Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Canuck Luck said: So how about that Danila Klimovich. Is he playing well lately? No one is playing in Abbotsford lately, in case you missed it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Western Red said: Yea, now that we're all brushed up on history... I see his birthday is coming up.. Jan 9. He'll be 19! He's getting old, career is pretty much done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: He's getting old, career is pretty much done. Trade this old guy for picks! Build the right way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Alflives said: Trade this old guy for picks! Build the right way. pre natal draft it's the future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 hours ago, hammertime said: pre natal draft it's the future. The Vancouver Canucks proudly draft 2056 organism 15897586367 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lmm Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 59 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: "I'll be back" "Say hello to my little friend" 'What ever happened to Faye Wray?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 If he's not gonna be eighteen like Sam Bennett anymore soon can he even really be any good? Should probably trade him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank einstein Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 hours ago, lmm said: "I'll be back" "Say hello to my little friend" 'What ever happened to Faye Wray?" Nothing to do with your point, but Fay Wray grew up just a block away from me here in the West End. Did local theatre until she went to Hollywood. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 9 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Have to appreciate young Euro/Russians wanting to be here and stick. Not an easy decision to make. When COVID eases up I wouldn't mind seeing Canucks fly out Pod/Klim's family over to see them and watch a game. Let them see how fans support them. IMO that would be a killer reward for their loyalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanP Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Have to appreciate young Euro/Russians wanting to be here and stick. Not an easy decision to make. When COVID eases up I wouldn't mind seeing Canucks fly out Pod/Klim's family over to see them and watch a game. Let them see how fans support them. IMO that would be a killer reward for their loyalty. Visa is a problem, guys… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 17 hours ago, Coconuts said: If he's not gonna be eighteen like Sam Bennett anymore soon can he even really be any good? Should probably trade him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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