24K PureCool Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, gurn said: So, how many people would take the 4, first round picks, of an E.P offer sheet now? In a heart beat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I’m ok paying these two lads top dollar if the guys on ELC’s play lights out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, tas said: check out the going rate for franchise players, especially in canadian markets. Objectively better players like McDavid, Drai, Matthews, Marner and Chabot? Forget it. I'd rather sell them off to acquire a few more Hovat quality players and go with less front loaded team building approach. Our blueline in particular needs a lot of work and we're not going to be able to fix it if we're paying Hughes some ridiculous amount of money to not play defense. Signing Pettersson and Hughes to the contracts you suggest will doom us to mediocrity for the remainder of their contracts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Dahlin and Cozens for Hughes +? Then tell Petey he goes to Arizona if he keeps holding out. I doubt we'd get that, but that would be quite the haul. Is Chiarelli working for Buffalo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, JM_ said: I doubt we'd get that, but that would be quite the haul. Is Chiarelli working for Buffalo? Even if the + was our 1st? I still do that in a heartbeat on our end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Objectively better players like McDavid, Drai, Matthews, Marner and Chabot? Forget it. I'd rather sell them off to acquire a few more Hovat quality players and go with less front loaded team building approach. Our blueline in particular needs a lot of work and we're not going to be able to fix it if we're paying Hughes some ridiculous amount of money to not play defense. Signing Pettersson and Hughes to the contracts you suggest will doom us to mediocrity for the remainder of their contracts. would you take Severson and NJ's unprotected 1st for Hughes? And the only reason I'm even thinking about this is their &^@#ing agent is pricing them both off our team. I really hate JP Barry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, King Heffy said: Even if the + was our 1st? I still do that in a heartbeat on our end. huh. Now thats getting interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) To be clear, I'm still very much a fan of Quinn and Petey and want them to stay as Canucks. As a fan from the start, I also want to win the Cup. That's why I don't want to sacrifice our future just so they can get paid as much as they can squeeze out of us. If we have to trade a roster player to make it work, that weakens our team. Other teams will know our predicament and we might have to add assets to the roster player to make it work. That would further weaken our team; right when we're finally stepping into our window of competitiveness and contending. Edited September 22, 2021 by RWMc1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JM_ said: would you take Severson and NJ's unprotected 1st for Hughes? And the only reason I'm even thinking about this is their &^@#ing agent is pricing them both off our team. I really hate JP Barry. Throw in Kevin Bahl and yes. Imagine Bahl and Woo clearing our crease for a decade. Edited September 22, 2021 by King Heffy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFerguson Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, tas said: I'm going to guess it ends up $9.5 x 4 for petey (he sacrifices dollars, jim sacrifices leverage) and $8.5 x 4 for quinn (jim sacrifices dollars, quinn sacrifices leverage) and benning somehow finds a way to make the dollars work. maybe even identical $9 x 4 deals. Those would be TERRIBLE deals for the team. TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DEALS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbllpp Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, fanfor42 said: No GM will trade a franchise RFA who is unsigned to Buffalo. Think about it. What return would you get for a candidate who will hold out rather than report? However, I get your sentiment. You are not wrong on that count. Get a contract number that Buffalo is willing to pay, “cave in” to the player but ensure no clauses for the first two 2 years. Hand the player a ticket to Buffalo before the ink dry and say have fun in Siberia. Sends a message to these entitled RFAs league wide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, bbllpp said: Get a contract number that Buffalo is willing to pay, “cave in” to the player but ensure no clauses for the first two 2 years. Hand the player a ticket to Buffalo before the ink dry and say have fun in Siberia. Sends a message to these entitled RFAs league wide NTC's aren't valid until UFA anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Throw in Kevin Bahl and yes. Imagine Bahl and Woo clearing our crease for a decade. do you think Ryan Johansen would be a guy worth targeting in a deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, TFerguson said: Those would be TERRIBLE deals for the team. TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DEALS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, bbllpp said: Get a contract number that Buffalo is willing to pay, “cave in” to the player but ensure no clauses for the first two 2 years. Hand the player a ticket to Buffalo before the ink dry and say have fun in Siberia. Sends a message to these entitled RFAs league wide Again zero chance Buffalo agrees to this. They get a franchise D at a big price who doesn't want to play for them and was fooled into the deal. Not in any reality does that deal come together between actual NHL teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbllpp Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, RWMc1 said: To be clear, I'm still very much a fan of Quinn and Petey and want them to stay as Canucks. As a fan from the start, I also want to win the Cup. That's why I don't want to sacrifice our future just so they can get paid as much as they can squeeze out of us. If we have to trade a roster player to make it work, that weakens our team. Other teams will know our predicament and we might have to add assets to the roster player to make it work. That would further weaken our team; right when we're finally stepping into our window of competitiveness and competing. I’ve been saying this for weeks, Ferland’s space should be used for depth and cap flexibility come the trade deadline, using hurts the team cap wise until Myers comes off in 3 years and will be sending us backwards starting next summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbllpp Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, fanfor42 said: Again zero chance Buffalo agrees to this. They get a franchise D at a big price who doesn't want to play for them and was fooled into the deal. Not in any reality does that deal come together between actual NHL teams. Why you ensure 2 years without trade clauses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbllpp Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, King Heffy said: NTC's aren't valid until UFA anyway. So there you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, fanfor42 said: Again zero chance Buffalo agrees to this. They get a franchise D at a big price who doesn't want to play for them and was fooled into the deal. Not in any reality does that deal come together between actual NHL teams. Philly did something similar with Jeff Carter and Columbus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, bbllpp said: Why you ensure 2 years without trade clauses Lol. Buffalo will not pay Vancouver fair value to get an unhappy pissed off player. Just kind of silly to suggest. Right? Although I get where you are coming from that our entitled RFAs don't help us build a winning franchise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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