NHL97OneTimer Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: He is also, not a part of the solution with that contract. Anyways, I get it .... If we had a team that was close to contending but couldn't get over the hump, I'd absolutely agree with you. OEL's salary isn't great for us either way but the timing of it given the circumstances is where I drop it down the list. Even signing Bo for the rest of his career is actually not in our favour. I love what Bo is doing and I feel for him the way he's been treated, but we're now in this zone where his career isn't timing well with where the club is heading (nowhere). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: You have zero idea Bo is responsible for that. You’re just assuming. Watching him play for the last 8-9 seasons? I have a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, EdgarM said: Watching him play for the last 8-9 seasons? I have a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Similar to how we deployed the Sedins in their latter years. Top line and #1 PP when they should have been split up and put on other lines. Sure, but those two should have been playing here those last couple years as the veteran leaders during a full rebuild. We lost that opportunity to have them mentoring a new young group. Stupid friggin’ owner’s insistence on his “win now” direction. Twins would have been perfect in a rebuild. They love our club, and city. Missed opportunity for sure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Similar to how we deployed the Sedins in their latter years. Top line and #1 PP when they should have been split up and put on other lines. they get drafted together, play together and go to the HOF together......that's just crazy talk LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doxm Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 These next 3 months are going to feel like 2 years. I don't see anyone going before the TDL. When we get there though, we may just see the likes of Horvat/Boeser/Schenn/Pearson/Garland gone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Doxm said: These next 3 months are going to feel like 2 years. I don't see anyone going before the TDL. When we get there though, we may just see the likes of Horvat/Boeser/Schenn/Pearson/Garland gone. I sure hope you’re right, and those moves ar3 for futures and cap space. But I just don’t think our owner will allow that kind of direction. He hasn’t since he bough5 the club, and fired anyone who suggested that was the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I don’t disagree with you. The time to trade Miller was at last year’s deadline. I would have been in favour of moving him then. Now it’s too late. His value right now is not as high as it was. However, BO’s value is at its highest ever, so if there is a deal there you make it. You can’t be in favour of trading Miller at his highest point and not BO. That makes no sense and tells me you have too much of an attachment to BO. If we can land a haul for BO like we did for Linden you do it. We are not a contender. Yes, you can. They can find a replacement for a Miller a lot easier than they can for Bo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: It’s not Bo’s either so… At this point it's the collective, and he is a part of that. So......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, EdgarM said: At this point it's the collective, and he is a part of that. So......... Again one player doesn’t make the team. So it’s the team not being good enough. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: They go up, and Bo had 29 hits in 17 games. Bo’s hit numbers go up in the post season too. I thought you said hits are not that important? You are all over the place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, stawns said: Yes, you can. They can find a replacement for a Miller a lot easier than they can for Bo. Actually it’s a lot easier to replace what Bo provides (60 points and a sos do defensive game) at centre that Miller’s 90+ points from wing/centre. Remember these two about equal liabilities without the puck and similar on the draw. We could get a good checking third line centre to play for Bo and have Miller play at C2. But really we should trade both for futures and rebuild properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doxm Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: I sure hope you’re right, and those moves ar3 for futures and cap space. But I just don’t think our owner will allow that kind of direction. He hasn’t since he bough5 the club, and fired anyone who suggested that was the way to go. It's wishful thinking - but he's gotta realize by now the same old same old clearly isn't working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, EdgarM said: I thought you said hits are not that important? You are all over the place. I never said hits aren’t important, I’ve also never said their the be all end all either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: One is a floater and one is a captain who carried his team in the playoffs. Not the same. The correct answer was trade them both 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Pointing out fact is insulting? Is this a FACT? " EdgarM: I don’t get why this team sucks. " Stop while your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Sure, but look at this photo of MArchand out of his gear. cmon.... this is so much better looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Miller’s 90+ points from wing/centre Miller got 99 last year, and in 1 other season had 3 more points, than a point per game average. Be happy if he gets a point per game. 2012-13 New York Rangers NHL 26 2 2 4 8 -7 -- -- -- -- -- 2013-14 New York Rangers NHL 30 3 3 6 18 -6 4 0 2 2 2 2013-14 Hartford Wolf Pack AHL 41 15 28 43 47 10 -- -- -- -- -- 2014-15 New York Rangers NHL 58 10 13 23 23 5 19 1 7 8 2 2014-15 Hartford Wolf Pack AHL 18 6 9 15 12 -3 -- -- -- -- -- 2015-16 New York Rangers NHL 82 22 21 43 46 10 5 0 3 3 4 2016-17 New York Rangers NHL 82 22 34 56 21 17 12 0 3 3 21 2017-18 New York Rangers NHL 63 13 27 40 28 -1 -- -- -- -- -- 2017-18 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 19 10 8 18 12 -3 17 2 6 8 15 2018-19 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 75 13 34 47 30 8 4 0 2 2 0 2019-20 Vancouver Canucks NHL 69 27 45 72 47 11 17 6 12 18 14 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks NHL 53 15 31 46 43 -7 -- -- -- -- -- 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks NHL 80 32 67 99 47 15 -- -- -- -- -- 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks NHL 28 11 15 26 26 -10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Is this a FACT? " EdgarM: I don’t get why this team sucks. " Stop while your head. You blame the lack of team success all on Bo, look at the garbage teams we’ve. Had for the better part of a decade now. Our best year was because of Markstrom, Demko and Bo standing on their heads. Edited December 13, 2022 by canuck73_3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxNaslundxX Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Management of the canucks is so frustrating. I dont blame bo for declining 8x8 then. Think of it from a professional work perspective. Bo has been playing at an elite level for a year now. Elevated his game 1.5 years before contract is up. His team has had abysmal starts the last two years. Theres been a coaching change. Now we are back to mediocrity. The team has no direction thats been presented. He watched veteran lifelong canucks not get offers and then sign cheap with rivals. You then see Boes get more, miller get more. Like you go through all of this. He obviously also understands cap structure. Everyone thinks managements moves have been dumb. Hes probably in the same boat. Especially when they say they will make trades which you expect makes cap room but then management doesnt follow through. Then a year before his contract is up, they offer a lower salary as his prime years contract. Id be going to free agency too and i love the canucks. The conversation should have started with 7. Just blow it all up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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