combover Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 NHL gms know they have to move fast to fleece one of the leagues worst in jim Benning. why is this guy still employed. #firebenning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, combover said: NHL gms know they have to move fast to fleece one of the leagues worst in jim Benning. why is this guy still employed. #firebenning I was a Jim Benning supporter for the last 7 1/2 years.. I've had enough. these past 2 weeks my views have slowly shifted from Green being the main problem.. to that it being Jim. I appreciate what the guy has done draft wise but man we need a change. I'd be in favour of jim taking over as president but we need a GM who can better decisions ie free agent signings, trades etc. I am sick of us moving our high picks and only being middling. I don't want us moving another 1st round pick until we are legitimate contenders sitting top 2 in our division loading up for a playoff spot. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rush17 said: I was a Jim Benning supporter for the last 7 1/2 years.. I've had enough. these past 2 weeks my views have slowly shifted from Green being the main problem.. to that it being Jim. I appreciate what the guy has done draft wise but man we need a change. I'd be in favour of jim taking over as president but we need a GM who can better decisions ie free agent signings, trades etc. I am sick of us moving our high picks and only being middling. I don't want us moving another 1st round pick until we are legitimate contenders sitting top 2 in our division loading up for a playoff spot. i think JB shouldn’t have anything to do with this team. He’s had more than enough opportunities and ten times more than most gms get to fix his mistakes. we are once again a bottom 5 team. i compared Craig buttons mock draft to JBs pretty comparable so the entire scouting drafting argument doesn’t hold water. And the fact we only have 7 picks in the nhl 5 firsts 2 seconds doesn’t exactly scream great drafting. JB has been a failure since he said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginator Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rush17 said: I was a Jim Benning supporter for the last 7 1/2 years.. I've had enough. these past 2 weeks my views have slowly shifted from Green being the main problem.. to that it being Jim. I appreciate what the guy has done draft wise but man we need a change. I'd be in favour of jim taking over as president but we need a GM who can better decisions ie free agent signings, trades etc. I am sick of us moving our high picks and only being middling. I don't want us moving another 1st round pick until we are legitimate contenders sitting top 2 in our division loading up for a playoff spot. I 100% agree with you, Rush. There are so many holes on our roster. Green doesn't have alot to work with. Hansen is right, its a roster issue. I don't love how Green deploys our 'stars' (like we can even call them that now).. but I just find it odd how the players say they love Travis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 if green is responsible for the dump and chase that isn't working. fire him. if jb is responsible for not having good enough pk'er or pp'ers , fire him. jb is responsible for our less than effective d core. he should go first. a new gm can choose his own coaching staff. fa dropped the ball again, missing out on gorten. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Hopefully Benning is fired before any trades are made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, smithers joe said: if green is responsible for the dump and chase that isn't working. fire him. if jb is responsible for not having good enough pk'er or pp'ers , fire him. jb is responsible for our less than effective d core. he should go first. a new gm can choose his own coaching staff. fa dropped the ball again, missing out on gorten. Once again, every single team is, primarily, a dump and chase team. The number of chances you get at a reasonable in during a game are limited and rather than risk a turnover and odd man rush the other way, you dump it in. It's also a very useful strategy for wearing down the other teams dmen over the course of the game. Again, every single team uses it as their primary zone entry strategy throughout the course of a game. The strategy isn't the issue for the Canucks, it's the execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 12 hours ago, Teemu Selänne said: If this doesn't deserve it's own thread, feel free to lock. Crowded house at the Vancouver Canucks game today - who are they scouting? Imagine if Chiarelli is brought in as President of Hockey Operations to work with Benning..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMHockey Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 @Canuckster86 You have better ideas for the next two months and the Trade Deadline if we have to sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Smells like Horvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Johnny Torts said: Smells like Horvat I sincerely doubt they are moving horvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, stawns said: I sincerely doubt they are moving horvat You’re well connected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Benning traded the 2020 1st and the 2021 1st for this? What a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 hours ago, GB5 said: When Bergevin was here he was more of a pylon than a player. Still counts though I suppose. Are your saying he was a buff pylon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Teemu Selänne said: If this doesn't deserve it's own thread, feel free to lock. Crowded house at the Vancouver Canucks game today - who are they scouting? We have some good and some average players that could be traded: Miller, Horvat, Boeser, Halak, Myers, Hamonic, Pearson, Lets see who has what I want from the teams that are attending... a mix of futures and current roster players who are under club control on good deals that can't just walk from our team while we "try" to get better over the next 2-3 years. If you see a trend, they are mostly bigger skilled players or guys with high motors. Time and time again the league proves that good big players beat good small players, especially in the playoffs. If our starting point for a new core is Hughes, Petterson, Garland, Motte, Hoglander, Podkolzin, and OEL.. iwith our best prospect being Rathbone... we seriously lack that size and grit element so need to surround them with complementary players. Adding some more undersized skilled singers like Fiala is a recipe for continued disaster to me. From Seattle: Borgen Oleksiak Fleury Beniers (not happening) Winterton Ottavainenen 1st round pick unprotected From Minnesota: Ek Foligno Lambos 1st round pick McBain From St. Louis Parayko Kostin 1st Round pick From Panthers Ekblad Gudas Barkov Gildon Noel Nause 2023 1s round pick From Blackhawks Dach Strome Jones Murphy Entwhistle Ejdsell Vlasic 2023 1st round pick From Leafs Engvall Mikheyev Kneis 1st rtound pick Edited November 29, 2021 by Provost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I guess I'm in the minority here but I don't mind Jim Benning making these trades. He has done very well on his last few trades. You could argue that he undervalues draft picks on the whole, but then again maybe the fans overvalue them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, stawns said: I sincerely doubt they are moving horvat I would be surprised if Horvat was the first move, but I don't doubt that he should be moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Provost said: I would be surprised if Horvat was the first move, but I don't doubt that he should be moved. Why's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, stawns said: Once again, every single team is, primarily, a dump and chase team. The number of chances you get at a reasonable in during a game are limited and rather than risk a turnover and odd man rush the other way, you dump it in. It's also a very useful strategy for wearing down the other teams dmen over the course of the game. Again, every single team uses it as their primary zone entry strategy throughout the course of a game. The strategy isn't the issue for the Canucks, it's the execution. Every team uses dump and chase of course. Not every team uses it as their primary offensive strategy though. Even less use it almost exclusively without a roster built to play that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, stawns said: Why's that? Why I would be surprised if he is the first moved? Harder deal to make than smaller moves like Halak, etc. He is our captain so it is also optics of having to hit the trade out of the park and increasing speculation about the locker room. He is also pretty cold right now so his value might be a little constrained. So if it is the big names as one of the first dominos I would guess Miller who hasn't been with the team long and is on a hot streak which you want to move on before he cools off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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