MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Chris12345 said: Weber is awesome but his contract is trash. Not sure he is worth that contract. Who eats that money if he can't get hurt? Worth it more than Subban is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 39 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Suzuki, 2nd, Tatar for a disgruntled Pacioretty Armia and 2 picks for Bourque Danault and a 2nd (Romanov) for Fleishmann and Weise Byron off waivers Allen and a 7th for a 3rd and 7th Turned Galchenyuk into Domi , into Anderson signed Kovalchuk to a cheap contract then got a 3rd for him 2 months later Scandella for a 4th from Buffalo then traded him a month and a half later for a 2nd and a 4th to St Louis I could go on. Bergevin gets value from trades. He’s not great at roster construction though (and he was handcuffed by the requirement of hiring French speaking coaches) And compare that with Jim Rutherfords value record. But that old codger is pretty popular here on CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 5 hours ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: He won trades that everyone thought he was robbed on. He was a laughing stock for Subban-Weber trade. Galchenyuk for Domi, then Domi for Anderson. Danualt and Romanov for Weiss and Fleichmann was a steal. Same with Petry at deadline. He wasn’t afraid to make big moves. The guy could make hockey trades and handle the pressure. Keep Benning on as a scouting consultant if he can't find work. Good arguments but I think I'd pass. His feud with Carolina's GM was downright embarrassing and he ended up losing as well. That, plus all of the other reasons mentioned in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Coconuts said: If we could hire someone who's not an ex-Canuck in some capacity that'd be great I agree. But he played for one year and 9 games. Doesn't count as an X Canuck in my books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: I agree. But he played for one year and 9 games. Doesn't count as an X Canuck in my books. And that's totally fair, I'm just tired of the ex-Canuck nepotism we've been seeing I mean, I get it, but we used to make fun of the Oilers for the exact same thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Patel Bure said: Good arguments but I think I'd pass. His feud with Carolina's GM was downright embarrassing and he ended up losing as well. That, plus all of the other reasons mentioned in this thread. We presumably want someone with NHL experience. He'd be able to hit the ground running. For GM's, I think its a matter of who has the least worst record as far as trades and value goes. And not about ho many rings they have. On that score, I think Bergevin has guys like Brian Burke and Jim Rutherford or Peter Chiarelli beat by a long shot. All of whom have rings. Would you agree on that ? Out of all the GM's with NHL experience out there, who do you put above Bergevin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawkdrummer Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) No thanks to a burnt out Bergevin. To be quite honest I don't expect any change at all. The season is already lost. tell Aquaman to stop running the team by choosing not to support his team financially. Linden left for a reason people! Edited November 29, 2021 by rawkdrummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 Friedman on TJMS: "Bergevin is going to be a candidate for some of these jobs and so I think will Mellanby. Scott Mellanby was in Vancouver during the Mike Gillis era and I can't help but wonder, that's someone the Aquilini Family would know a little bit" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: We presumably want someone with NHL experience. He'd be able to hit the ground running. For GM's, I think its a matter of who has the least worst record as far as trades and value goes. And not about ho many rings they have. On that score, I think Bergevin has guys like Brian Burke and Jim Rutherford or Peter Chiarelli beat by a long shot. All of whom have rings. Would you agree on that ? Out of all the GM's with NHL experience out there, who do you put above Bergevin ? You make a very strong case for sure. Even though Bergevin fired Claude Julien, I believe they are still on good terms. Question is - does Bergevin still have gas in the tank? He might need a break. Remember how when Torts came here and stunk in 2013 as a coach? One reason being is that he was burned out from his gig in NYR and likely could have used a break. Wondering if the Canucks are just better off firing both Benning and Weisbroad, while re-hiring Linden (President) and Gillis (GM). Ownership kisses and makes up with those men and gets saved from a PR perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Friedman on TJMS: "Bergevin is going to be a candidate for some of these jobs and so I think will Mellanby. Scott Mellanby was in Vancouver during the Mike Gillis era and I can't help but wonder, that's someone the Aquilini Family would know a little bit" Now Mellanby.......I can see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Mark Messier as GM would be hilarious. :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 37 minutes ago, Patel Bure said: Good arguments but I think I'd pass. His feud with Carolina's GM was downright embarrassing and he ended up losing as well. That, plus all of the other reasons mentioned in this thread. His “feud” was the resulting using a legal option in the form of an offer sheet. It was Carolina that took it to ridiculous levels of petty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, qwijibo said: His “feud” was the resulting using a legal option in the form of an offer sheet. It was Carolina that took it to ridiculous levels of petty Wish we could have gotten that barn fight between Burke and Lowe back in the day. :-p 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Patel Bure said: Wish we could have gotten that barn fight between Burke and Lowe back in the day. :-p I heard just the other day that him and Lowe made made amends and became friendly after it all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Patel Bure said: You make a very strong case for sure. Even though Bergevin fired Claude Julien, I believe they are still on good terms. Question is - does Bergevin still have gas in the tank? He might need a break. Remember how when Torts came here and stunk in 2013 as a coach? One reason being is that he was burned out from his gig in NYR and likely could have used a break. Wondering if the Canucks are just better off firing both Benning and Weisbroad, while re-hiring Linden (President) and Gillis (GM). Ownership kisses and makes up with those men and gets saved from a PR perspective. Why would you re-hire a GM who had to be fired because of terrible trades and atrocious drafting? Would it not be better to hire someone actually qualified for the position? Bergevin wins most of his trades and isn't afraid to make unpopular ones. That's what we need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I don’t think Bergevin is the answer in Van. He isn’t as bad as some suggest but this team needs a PoHO and a GM that can set and follow a long term roster building plan. Bergevin is very reactive. He is a chase the trend GM like Benning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Canadians jumped all over Gorton as soon as they realized Vancouver might have a vacancy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 16 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: So, people are concerned about Benning's trading record, and you want to bring in Bergevin instead?????? Has anyone else noticed the distinct lack of a Head Bang on Wall emoji as an option on this board??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I like marc but all he does is cry on tv. Too emotional for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Lets bring in naslund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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