[PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Los Angeles Kings | Dec. 30, 2021

[CanuckleHorse]

1 hour ago, RU SERIOUS said:

Possibly, but I don't think I could go so far to say HA-Lack is decent.  I just haven't drunk enough tonight to do that.  Whenever I see him in nets squished down on his knees into a small shaky blob, I keep getting visions of a pile of ......... in my head.   Not sure why?

I’m guessing many fans of other teams feel that way about our players surprised you’re not talking about Toronto weather but hey we lost so now you get a chance to dump on our players.

[Hairy Kneel]

6 hours ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said:

The shootout just is terrible. Why they didn't change the rules and do a 3 on 3 for ten min is beyond me.

And a shot clock. 

[IBatch]

7 hours ago, Devron44 said:

Winning streak ends but points in 8 games doesn’t 

You bet, and we what seemed impossible, .500 before the year is out.  9-2-1 is a pretty awesome run of games, our team for sure has a chance now.   

 

Wonder how Bruce will keep them going in January?  Miller with another elite level skilled play to tie the game.    Halak was a monster.   

[IBatch]

4 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said:

Folks can say what they want about how "Ha-Lack made this save and that save".  Fact of the matter is,  he's played in eight games now and only 1 Win (which was a by a hair & a lucky fluke).   

 

It's pretty well a done deal and all but guaranteed when he step's between the pipes - that we'll lose.   Just another one, in the long list of BAD signings by Uncle Jim.  

 

Rest assured our new management group will come to the same conclusion and ensure that he won't be back next year! That is 100% guranteed.  You can take that to the bank!

True, he's won a game for us ... last night he gave us a point and is the only reason we didn't end the year below .500.   He's a very good  NHL goalie at the end of his career.   12 goals for in 7 games isn't exactly going to give you that many W's no matter whom is playing in net, including Demko, sure maybe he could have won us a couple more...have to get that second goal lol.     .971sp last night...call it his Bruce Bump, without him and with Demko in net instead, we'd likely have lost the game.    He's actually only had one bad game this year, the rest he's done enough for us to win - if we could just freaking score for him.   .916sp... what was Holtby's again?   Halak is a guy who's had several 4 year blocks with different teams and managed a top level .sp....same as Luongo's career average actually in those spans (St. Louis and MTL)....he's got a shot at 300 wins.  Already 48th all-time, and his career  sp is better then 6 of the top ten lol.    Also tied for the best for the goalies above him that are active ... Bobrovsky in sp.  Better then Quick,  Holtby, MAF,  Mike Smith and Craig Anderson ... and he's played an awfully lot less games then all but Holtby  (his career winning percentage is pretty decent).    He's 26th all-time in shut-outs as well.    Four less then Quick in 140ish less games.    What does that mean?  He's got game stealing ability.   Sure he's not George Hainsworth (94 shut-outs in 464 games lol...wow..) but he's not far off from Martin Broduer in games played to shut-out ratio either.   Way ahead of Luongo in that regard.   And MAF and Quick.  

 

Holtby too. And Bobrovsky.   Right now, after last nights game - he's exactly where his career average for this season.   He got us a point.   It's not like last season where aside from a couple good games by Holtby post covid, our back-up failed us.   To me aside from one game maybe, our team has failed the back-up.  

Edited December 31, 2021 by IBatch

[IBatch]

I hate the shoot-out.   3 x 3 OT is good enough, 5 minutes.   One point in this league, shouldn't be given out resulting in a skills competition.   Games should only have two points.   If they want to keep it, give the shoot-out winner 1.1 points and the losing team .9 points.   Just ridiculous.   Goalies stats ballooned...making 300 games won a joke when it used to be an amazing career, and 400 bar (incredible achievement) way too easy.  Lundqvist got an extra 80 plus w's as a result.   And Luongo and probabyl MAF would never get close to 500 without it too (Luongo wasn't great at it but still won 45 or so of them Simply ridiculous).

 

Worse then that is what teams make the playoffs.   Sure they have "tie breakers", but every year a few teams that didn't really earn it, make it in and others that really did earn it don't.    It's a silly gimmick.   3 x 3 OT decides enough games.   Can stomach the "loser point" with that.    And yes i know Demko is a stud at this and our current team would suffer some.    

 

It's already screwed with close to 20 years of hockey stats.   Time to abolish it. 

[Putgolzin]

3 minutes ago, IBatch said:

I hate the shoot-out.   3 x 3 OT is good enough, 5 minutes.   One point in this league, shouldn't be given out resulting in a skills competition.   Games should only have two points.   If they want to keep it, give the shoot-out winner 1.1 points and the losing team .9 points.   Just ridiculous.   Goalies stats ballooned...making 300 games won a joke when it used to be an amazing career, and 400 bar (incredible achievement) way too easy.  Lundqvist got an extra 80 plus w's as a result.   And Luongo and probabyl MAF would never get close to 500 without it too (Luongo wasn't great at it but still won 45 or so of them Simply ridiculous).

 

Worse then that is what teams make the playoffs.   Sure they have "tie breakers", but every year a few teams that didn't really earn it, make it in and others that really did earn it don't.    It's a silly gimmick.   3 x 3 OT decides enough games.   Can stomach the "loser point" with that.    And yes i know Demko is a stud at this and our current team would suffer some.    

 

It's already screwed with close to 20 years of hockey stats.   Time to abolish it. 

I’ve gotten over loser points and shootouts and all that.

What drives me crazy is our understanding of winning percentage that is still based on pre-lockout wins, losses and ties.

At that point a team at 15-15-3 was legitimately a .500 team.

Now a team that loses every game in a season, but only does so in OT is a .500 team with their 0-0-82 record.

[JayDangles]

7 hours ago, ruilin96 said:

Good thing the year is about to end in a couple of days, so I am optmistic to see the real Pettersson in 2022. Maybe 2021 just really isn't his year and he will light it up in 2022.

It literally ends today

[IBatch]

13 minutes ago, Putgolzin said:

I’ve gotten over loser points and shootouts and all that.

What drives me crazy is our understanding of winning percentage that is still based on pre-lockout wins, losses and ties.

At that point a team at 15-15-3 was legitimately a .500 team.

Now a team that loses every game in a season, but only does so in OT is a .500 team with their 0-0-82 record.

Lol no doubt.  It still bugs me.   It happened for a reason which i also got, teams in the dead puck era did change their strategy later in the game and go for the tie or guaranteed point.   Thing is, and a lot has been observed correctly and written about it post lock-out, the same thing happens now because team know they get a loser point - it solved nothing.   Might as well just have ties. And scrap OT for that matter.   That said i do love 3 x 3 OT .... but despise the shoot-out.   

[Moe Knows]

8 hours ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said:

In all honesty, this was the first game where I starting having doubts.. looked very sluggish and sad to watch. 

 

I'll give them a pass because its a back to back but man I got dejavu with TG's Canucks tonight. 

Seriously???? Yeah they weren't at their best but do you honestly think Green's Canucks would have salvaged a point from that game and had a chance for 2. Was that a splash I heard as you jumped over the railing?

[Nuxfanabroad]

HNY from the land of the risin' sun! :^)

 

Let's hope 2022 is for the Canucks

[stawns]

5 hours ago, ShawnAntoski said:

Lol

 

We are spoiled, with Demko and I agree, watching Halak is not the same; but he gave the team a chance to win tonight.

 

What movie; one of the MIB's ?

Weird Science!  That's Chet

[Alflives]

Our guys played a game where they clearly had no legs.  And we still got a point!  That’s fantastic!  Another winning streak starts next game.  

[D.B Cooper]

8 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said:

OEL is worth his contract.  I can name quite a few d-men making more then 7 mil/year who aren't better then OEL.  

 

Elias is definitely struggling, but Danault has been named as the best defensive forward by a lot of players so it's not really a coincidence that Elias looked bad tonight.  

OEL is fine.  I like him.  I used him as an example because tons of people cry about his contract.  
 

Im not concerned who EP is playing against.  
That’s just another excuse, and kinda saying “if he wasn’t matched up against Danault, he would have been fine”.  Which we all know is BS.  
He could be matched against Jake Virtanen and still get shut down.  
He has been a disappointment in about 98% of the games this year.  
He sucks, and he knows it.  
 

I really don’t know what needs to be done to fix him, but it doesn’t look like much is going to do it. 
 

Classic Canuck luck.   
We finally get a franchise center, and somehow he turns to mush. 
That 7.5 mill is going to be a huge burden if he doesn’t magically return next year. 

[D.B Cooper]

5 hours ago, N4ZZY said:

I don’t think he’ll be traded if his play is poor. That’s the very definition of selling low. If you do that, you’re going to get a low return. That’s just a recipe for a bad trade. But I hear ya. I want Petey to get back to his old self. But I also remember when Horvat had like a goalless streak of like 20 games or something. It felt like he was never going to score again. I think that was in his rookie year. 

 

Halak is decent. I wish he would get more support from the rest of the team. He wasn’t the problem tonight against LA. 

This isn’t like a bad goalless drought though.  
This is an effort and confidence drought.  

He is playing frustrated.  Tries to make a play, it doesn’t work, gets more frustrated.  
Game over.  
 

 

[Gawdzukes]

8 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said:

How can you call Chiasson a waste of valuable cap space lol 

 

The guy's making less then the amount that you can bury in the minors. 

These people don't know sh!t about hockey that's why. They can't understand why we didn't sign Draisaitl instead ... he's so much better. Dumb Benning. 

[DJB]

The only good things in that game were the 1 point and LA camera work. I hate Anaheim’s high camera. Makes the players small. LA has the lower cam and great board shots. Best is league.  
 

[Alflives]

5 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said:

OEL is fine.  I like him.  I used him as an example because tons of people cry about his contract.  
 

Im not concerned who EP is playing against.  
That’s just another excuse, and kinda saying “if he wasn’t matched up against Danault, he would have been fine”.  Which we all know is BS.  
He could be matched against Jake Virtanen and still get shut down.  
He has been a disappointment in about 98% of the games this year.  
He sucks, and he knows it.  
 

I really don’t know what needs to be done to fix him, but it doesn’t look like much is going to do it. 
 

Classic Canuck luck.   
We finally get a franchise center, and somehow he turns to mush. 
That 7.5 mill is going to be a huge burden if he doesn’t magically return next year. 

Yup.  OEL is an excellent player, and on a good contract.  We have him from age 29 to 35.  Those are top years for D men.

Petey looks heavier than before to my (too often bloodshot from drink) eyes.  I’d be curious to know his exact weight, and if he indeed is a few pounds above where he was previously?  He’s like a finely tuned instrument.  Off just a bit and it sounds crappy.  He’s off just a bit.  His gifts haven’t disappeared though.  He’s still got that greatness in him.  It will show through.   

[D.B Cooper]

9 hours ago, J.I.A.H.N said:

No one is arguing that Pettie is not himself, but the if you can not focus on the good, you should not be talking about the bad.

I just couldn’t disagree more.  
This is a results based game, and he has had almost nothing but poor results. 
If he was being a defensive monster while not scoring, sure.   But nope.  Doesn’t even look like he is trying. 

9 hours ago, J.I.A.H.N said:

 

Do you have any idea who was checking him tonight? 
 

completely irrelevant. He makes 7.35 million a season to be our best player and produce.  
It is not ok to get shut down by the LA Kings, regardless of who is covering him. 

9 hours ago, J.I.A.H.N said:

 

This was a one goal game and you focus on Pettersson.........that sounds like trolling to me

It sounds more like you are ignoring all the games that add up to this one.  

9 hours ago, J.I.A.H.N said:

 

Did he play like a top 6 forward tonight..you bet your a$$ he did.
 

No he didn’t.   One ok pass doesn’t make a top 6 games. 

9 hours ago, J.I.A.H.N said:

 

 

Did he play as Hoglander, Podkolzin, Pearson, yes he did, he actually played better

 

I guess if you can't see that, well I can't help you.........sorry man!

Don’t try to help us.  Maybe take the rose coloured glasses off and see what help Petey needs instead. 

[Timråfan]

1 hour ago, IBatch said:

Lol no doubt.  It still bugs me.   It happened for a reason which i also got, teams in the dead puck era did change their strategy later in the game and go for the tie or guaranteed point.   Thing is, and a lot has been observed correctly and written about it post lock-out, the same thing happens now because team know they get a loser point - it solved nothing.   Might as well just have ties. And scrap OT for that matter.   That said i do love 3 x 3 OT .... but despise the shoot-out.   

3 points to the winner or 1 point each… Everyone wants to win if so. 

[Nucker 67]

I wonder why the entire Kings line attacked Podkolzin at the break. The rookie was left on his own to fend off 5 players, until Myers decided to join in and help him out. 

 

So, I think the Canucks should trade Petey. I know there's not really a connection with the Podkolzin incident, but Petey really isn't that good (very overrated) and the Canucks might get some other team to give us a top Dman in return.