thundernuts Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 7 hours ago, NHL97OneTimer said: Says the person who wears a speedo and calls himself Thundernuts Kidding aside, thank you for reminding me of one of the all time best cameos in a movie! Speedo… nope. No one wants to see that. I assume you’re referring to Hulk Hogan as Thunderlips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 8 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Why the &^@# does a back up goaltender have a full NMC?? We had a horrible GM, I mean we bought out Holtby after seeing Demko could handle being a #1 then instead of getting a cheap back up G or having some competition at camp we over pay an aging vet G again with a NMC and incentives of 1.5m in bonuses that could get deferred to next seasons cap...was just an all around $&!# show with the old regime here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 10 hours ago, thundernuts said: Speedo… nope. No one wants to see that. I assume you’re referring to Hulk Hogan as Thunderlips? Yes. Your avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) IMG_5457.MOV Frank Seravalli saying on SNET just now that he thinks Halak could be pursued by Edmonton at a low cost given that they have been shopping the market and unable to find the right fit/trade Edited March 5, 2022 by RWJC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) EDM Halak VAN 3rd ‘22 Why such a high pick from Edmonton you may ask? Two reasons. 1. An Edmonton 3rd is like another team’s 2nd. 2. It’s Edmonton. Edited March 7, 2022 by Me_ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) On 3/4/2022 at 12:44 PM, Canuckster86 said: We had a horrible GM, I mean we bought out Holtby after seeing Demko could handle being a #1 then instead of getting a cheap back up G or having some competition at camp we over pay an aging vet G again with a NMC and incentives of 1.5m in bonuses that could get deferred to next seasons cap...was just an all around $&!# show with the old regime here. We didn’t have a horrible GM. Look at the team we have under a new coach. This argument is asinine. We signed Holtby as protection against absolute failure in case Demko failed miserably. But then, DEMKO. Halak came in as best backup available and in his defense, used to be a pretty good 1G. But I agree, the Canucks paid a premium by NMC-ing him. Edited March 7, 2022 by Me_ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 9:44 AM, Canuckster86 said: We had a horrible GM, I mean we bought out Holtby after seeing Demko could handle being a #1 then instead of getting a cheap back up G or having some competition at camp we over pay an aging vet G again with a NMC and incentives of 1.5m in bonuses that could get deferred to next seasons cap...was just an all around $&!# show with the old regime here. It’s true. Benning sucked ass when it came to managing this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Me_ said: We didn’t have a horrible GM. Look at the team we have under a new coach. This argument is asinine. We signed Holtby as protection against absolute failure in case Demko failed miserably. But then, DEMKO. Halak came in as best backup available and in his defense, used to be a pretty good 1G. But I agree, the Canucks paid a premium by NMC-ing him. But why did Benning feel the need to have given a NMC to a back up tender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Me_ said: EDM Halak VAN 3rd ‘22 Why such a high pick from Edmonton you may ask? Two reasons. 1. An Edmonton 3rd is like another team’s 2nd. 2. It’s Edmonton. Trade within the division? Make a 2nd. Or Edmonton continues to suffer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: But why did Benning feel the need to have given a NMC to a back up tender? I think what you have to look at here is Halak's history. This is his 1st season being below 0.900 since 2012-13 where he had a 0.899. There is also only 1 season in his history before this season where is doesn't have a winning record. He's actually historically been a pretty consistent and solid backup. Arguably one of the best bang for you money backups possible. So when you want to entice someone like that, an NMC isn't really out of the question for a backup given his rather consistent history. This season we're seeing now I doubt anyone could have foreseen. You have to take that into account with all of this. It's easy to wonder why he has an NMC now, but less so when he was actually signed. It looked like it would be a good signing. A solid backup for Demko. It's just unfortunate how things have turned out. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Lock said: I think what you have to look at here is Halak's history. This is his 1st season being below 0.900 since 2012-13 where he had a 0.899. There is also only 1 season in his history before this season where is doesn't have a winning record. He's actually historically been a pretty consistent and solid backup. Arguably one of the best bang for you money backups possible. So when you want to entice someone like that, an NMC isn't really out of the question for a backup given his rather consistent history. This season we're seeing now I doubt anyone could have foreseen. You have to take that into account with all of this. It's easy to wonder why he has an NMC now, but less so when he was actually signed. It looked like it would be a good signing. A solid backup for Demko. It's just unfortunate how things have turned out. Seems to be the case for almost every player that has come through Canuck doors. I think Benning still could have gotten Halak without a NMC clause. It is what it is I guess. But he’s hard to move because of that clause. And &^@#, I would not want to help Edmonton by sending him there, unless we’re getting a 2nd in return. Make it hurt for the Oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King of Kings Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: But why did Benning feel the need to have given a NMC to a back up tender? Actually most fans here liked the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, N4ZZY said: Seems to be the case for almost every player that has come through Canuck doors. I think Benning still could have gotten Halak without a NMC clause. It is what it is I guess. But he’s hard to move because of that clause. And &^@#, I would not want to help Edmonton by sending him there, unless we’re getting a 2nd in return. Make it hurt for the Oil. I guess I have a couple of questions in regards to this: 1) Are we really that hurting if we don't move him? I mean it's not like we play him lots 2) Do we really care about the value we'd get back if we do entice him to go pretty much anywhere? 3) Does the NMC really hurt us that much in the end in this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, The Lock said: I guess I have a couple of questions in regards to this: 1) Are we really that hurting if we don't move him? I mean it's not like we play him lots 2) Do we really care about the value we'd get back if we do entice him to go pretty much anywhere? 3) Does the NMC really hurt us that much in the end in this case? 1. I think for a team that is up against the cap, every little bit counts. 2. I think it's important to always get value, look at Benning for not getting the most out of deals, it's really haunted us, even now. 3. Depends. If we're willing to keep him, then I guess not? It wouldn't matter at that point right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: 1. I think for a team that is up against the cap, every little bit counts. 2. I think it's important to always get value, look at Benning for not getting the most out of deals, it's really haunted us, even now. 3. Depends. If we're willing to keep him, then I guess not? It wouldn't matter at that point right? Can't demote him to the AHL because of his NMC - makes it more challenging to bring up Martin to evaluate whether he could be a reasonable backup option for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Me_ said: EDM Halak VAN 3rd ‘22 Why such a high pick from Edmonton you may ask? Two reasons. 1. An Edmonton 3rd is like another team’s 2nd. 2. It’s Edmonton. Why would Edmonton want Halak? As flimsy as their goaltending is adding Halak isn't going to improve it. Plus this also means Canucks will be getting either Smith or Koskinen back which doesn't help the Canucks cap situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 45 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Why would Edmonton want Halak? As flimsy as their goaltending is adding Halak isn't going to improve it. Plus this also means Canucks will be getting either Smith or Koskinen back which doesn't help the Canucks cap situation we don't any of those goaltenders. just get a high pick back (a 2nd would be ideal). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I was suspicious of this signing considering how bad we are defensively and how Halak has been sheltered for most of his career by good teams. I thought the same of Holtby who really got shelled and is doing much better with Dallas. Demko's at the point now where he doesn't need a veteran or mentor. We could easily take a young backup. I'd be happy with Martin taking 20 games easily. How do we move Halak's bulky contract? Hopefully someone needs him and is willing to give him a second chance, but it'll be a hard sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: we don't any of those goaltenders. just get a high pick back (a 2nd would be ideal). I'd be ecstatic with a 3rd and the opportunity to bring Martin up to be our full-time back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, N4ZZY said: we don't any of those goaltenders. just get a high pick back (a 2nd would be ideal). Yeah but Edmonton would need to get rid of either goalie if they another one from any team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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