N4ZZY Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, stawns said: Not this season it wouldn't, but two years down the road it will. It also gives them a lot of cap space to work with So more of a long term move rather than a short term one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Canucks are playing better but they dug themselves and incredible hole before BB got here, I doubt they make the playoffs, I bet they miss it by 2-3 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: So more of a long term move rather than a short term one. I think with smart moves they'd be competitive next year and a solid playoff team in two years time. I also think JR is, more or less, going to follow JBs timeline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: why is this? Because teams get stars in their eyes about a Cup run and always overpay for improving their chances at the deadline. At the draft those picks become tangible and teams get stars in their eyes about the lottery ticket they represent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, Provost said: Because teams get stars in their eyes about a Cup run and always overpay for improving their chances at the deadline. At the draft those picks become tangible and teams get stars in their eyes about the lottery ticket they represent. interesting point. Certainly rings true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, N4ZZY said: If we’re trading Halak, we’d need a goalie to come back. None of our goalie prospects are ready to step in at this stage of their development. Couldn't they just play out the season with Martin as the backup? If management decides they don't believe we're in it this year does it really matter who our backup is so long as we're not ruining a prospect? Edited January 17, 2022 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 We should be sellers regardless of standings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 If anyone is going to be sellers - it'll be Seattle and Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Coconuts said: Couldn't they just play out the season with Martin as the backup? If management decides they don't believe we're in it this year does it really matter who our backup is so long as we're not ruining a prospect? I mean, even if we’re out of the playoffs, the goal is still to win games. LOL Having Martin in goal, almost guarantees that we lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, BureBurrito said: If anyone is going to be sellers - it'll be Seattle and Montreal. We probably should be sellers as well. This road trip to me was the one that either made or break our playoff chances. We’re 1-3 on this road trip so far. Win tomorrow, and we’re 2-3, decent, but not great, and certainly not enough to make up ground with the playoffs. 1-4 road trip? We’re basically done. I think JR probably has his mind made up by the end of this month where this team is at. We’re 1 game below .500, but we’re like 5/6 points behind SJ for that last spot, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, BureBurrito said: If anyone is going to be sellers - it'll be Seattle and Montreal. Yeah. Seattle for sure. Flip their players for prospects and draft picks for the upcoming 2022 draft. Montréal I think might trade some of their players, but they’re going to want to keep their young players to build upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: I mean, even if we’re out of the playoffs, the goal is still to win games. LOL Having Martin in goal, almost guarantees that we lose. It's true, I think they'd rather have someone more competent. I just question who'd be available and how much we'd be willing to give up, which probably wouldn't be much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Chariot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 57 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: I mean, even if we’re out of the playoffs, the goal is still to win games. LOL Having Martin in goal, almost guarantees that we lose. 47 minutes ago, Coconuts said: It's true, I think they'd rather have someone more competent. I just question who'd be available and how much we'd be willing to give up, which probably wouldn't be much. Something like Halak for DeSmith and a pick would work fine. DeSmith might even be a good buy low guy to extend, that Clarke could work with. He's been a solid backup for most of his career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, aGENT said: Something like Halak for DeSmith and a pick would work fine. DeSmith might even be a good buy low guy to extend, that Clarke could work with. He's been a solid backup for most of his career. Yup, but it's sounding more like we'll be stuck with Halak from what we've heard lately I'd count on having his bonus tacked on to our cap next season If it isn't that's a welcome surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Coconuts said: Yup, but it's sounding more like we'll be stuck with Halak from what we've heard lately I'd count on having his bonus tacked on to our cap next season If it isn't that's a welcome surprise Is Halak’s bonus a problem moving forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, aGENT said: Something like Halak for DeSmith and a pick would work fine. DeSmith might even be a good buy low guy to extend, that Clarke could work with. He's been a solid backup for most of his career. Kind of washes out right? Except, we might have to tag on a pick to get Halak’s bonus off our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Kind of washes out right? Except, we might have to tag on a pick to get Halak’s bonus off our hands. They're getting the upgrade in net in this theoretical trade. We're not adding anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Is Halak’s bonus a problem moving forward? Not a long term problem, but it'll hurt us in the offseason and next season If he earns his bonus, and he will if he stays, it'll count as dead cap next year, which is problematic because the Virtanen and Holtby buyouts eat up more cap next season and eat up most of Luongo's recapture being freed up It puts the squeeze on a roster that's currently pretty capped out as is Edited January 18, 2022 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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