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8 minutes ago, IBatch said:

Where were they in the conference?  And they missed inbetween completely didn't they?  We played them as the President's trophy winner...7th seed vs best team in the regular season.  LA wasn't supposed to win one series their first cup let alone the cup.   They never were a great regular season team which is my point.    

Yes they were 6th in the conference - L.A was a talented team with a winning record which made the playoffs 5 years in a row and won rounds in every one of those. I'm not about to compare them to the Canucks for obvious reasons. In that span they had 9 winning seasons in a row. Those statistics are almost polar opposite of this franchise. I agree though anything can happen, I'll be right there yelling at the T.V  when it does!

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As previously posted, the Vaunted Vancouver Canucks are now 3 points out of a wildcard spot:

 

Wild Card GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF HOME AWAY S/O L10 STRK
1  Nashville 49 28 17 4 60 .612 22 27 150 138 +12 14-9-0 14-8-4 1-2 4-5-1 L3
2  Los Angeles 48 24 17 7 55 .573 20 22 138 135 +3 13-11-2 11-6-5 2-2 4-4-2 L1
3  Anaheim 51 23 19 9 55 .539 16 20 149 154 -5 13-8-4 10-11-5 3-4 4-4-2 L3
4  Dallas 47 26 19 2 54 .574 18 24 141 142 -1 17-7-1 9-12-1 2-1 7-3-0 W1
5  Winnipeg 48 22 18 8 52 .542 19 21 142 143 -1 13-9-1 9-9-7 1-4 5-4-1 W2
6  Vancouver 50 23 21 6 52 .520 17 20 131 139 -8 10-9-3 13-12-3 3-3 5-3-2 W2
7  San Jose 48 22 21 5 49 .510 15 21 130 150 -20 11-10-3 11-11-2 1-1 2-4-4 OT1
8  Chicago 50 18 25 7 43 .430 11 15 124 170 -46 8-12-3 10-13-4 3-1 3-6-1 L1
9  Seattle 50 16 30 4 36 .360 14 15 132 178 -46 9-16-2 7-14-2 1-1 4-6-0 L2
10  Arizona 48 12 32 4 28 .292 8 11 108 180 -72 5-17-1 7-15-3 1-4 2-8-0 L1
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26 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said:

Yes they were 6th in the conference - L.A was a talented team with a winning record which made the playoffs 5 years in a row and won rounds in every one of those. I'm not about to compare them to the Canucks for obvious reasons. In that span they had 9 winning seasons in a row. Those statistics are almost polar opposite of this franchise. I agree though anything can happen, I'll be right there yelling at the T.V  when it does!

Polar opposite?  Wow look at their franchise finishes all-time.   Yes they won two cups - but man they've been a terrible franchise ... worse then us during the regular season which says a lot.    Their best stretch in "franchise history" is exactly one first in the Smythe dating back to their Gretzky years.   Seconds too.   Their regular season record is very very bad really all-time.   How many times have the Canucks been first in their division? 11 times ... and second 9 times. 

 

Edit:  I hate the LA kings ok. 

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6 minutes ago, IBatch said:

Polar opposite?  Wow look at their franchise finishes all-time.   Yes they won two cups - but man they've been a terrible franchise ... worse then us during the regular season which says a lot.    Their best stretch in "franchise history" is exactly one first in the Smythe dating back to their Gretzky years.   Seconds too.   Their regular season record is very very bad really all-time.   How many times have the Canucks been first in their division? 11 times ... and second 9 times. 

 

Edit:  I hate the LA kings ok. 

Sorry, I should have said during that span - I wasn't comparing them all time.

 

 

LOL to your edit - I don't like them either to be honest - especially those cup teams. Doughty and Clifford in particular. 

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42 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said:

I don't disagree there's been a lot of juggling but that's pretty telling as well....if a coach is juggling lines is usually not a good sign. 

its the talent level, they have to try out fringe NHL players to see who can do what. We need better players on the b6.

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5 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said:

Sorry, I should have said during that span - I wasn't comparing them all time.

 

 

LOL to your edit - I don't like them either to be honest - especially those cup teams. Doughty and Clifford in particular. 

I hate them.   Weber IMO was/is a better D then Doughty by quite a margin, if he scored two goals instead in Sochi, which of course he could have easily done, the massive love affair which finally resulted in a Norris trophy wouldn't have happened.   Karlsson did more with less during that span.    At least now we know he's just a putz.   lol ... I don't hate Doughty, i just think he was massively overrated. 

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55 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said:

As previously posted, the Vaunted Vancouver Canucks are now 3 points out of a wildcard spot:

 

Wild Card GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF HOME AWAY S/O L10 STRK
1  Nashville 49 28 17 4 60 .612 22 27 150 138 +12 14-9-0 14-8-4 1-2 4-5-1 L3
2  Los Angeles 48 24 17 7 55 .573 20 22 138 135 +3 13-11-2 11-6-5 2-2 4-4-2 L1
3  Anaheim 51 23 19 9 55 .539 16 20 149 154 -5 13-8-4 10-11-5 3-4 4-4-2 L3
4  Dallas 47 26 19 2 54 .574 18 24 141 142 -1 17-7-1 9-12-1 2-1 7-3-0 W1
5  Winnipeg 48 22 18 8 52 .542 19 21 142 143 -1 13-9-1 9-9-7 1-4 5-4-1 W2
6  Vancouver 50 23 21 6 52 .520 17 20 131 139 -8 10-9-3 13-12-3 3-3 5-3-2 W2
7  San Jose 48 22 21 5 49 .510 15 21 130 150 -20 11-10-3 11-11-2 1-1 2-4-4 OT1
8  Chicago 50 18 25 7 43 .430 11 15 124 170 -46 8-12-3 10-13-4 3-1 3-6-1 L1
9  Seattle 50 16 30 4 36 .360 14 15 132 178 -46 9-16-2 7-14-2 1-1 4-6-0 L2
10  Arizona 48 12 32 4 28 .292 8 11 108 180 -72 5-17-1 7-15-3 1-4 2-8-0 L1

If you don't think too much about HOW the team is playing, and just look at a few things here, it's encouraging. NO team in front of them has played as many road games as Vancouver (we've played 28...Anaheim is closest with 26). The only two teams that have winning road records, other than us, are the two that are actually in the playoff positions. Only Dallas has a better record over the last ten games. The next 7 games are going to tell the difference. 3 at home, 2 of which should be winnable (Anaheim, Seattle), then 4 on the road, two of which could be winnable (NYI and NJ). If...IF...we can go, say, 4-2-1 over that seven, then I'd give us a pretty good shot. Anything less than 3-4, and we are out. 

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2 hours ago, Alflives said:

The thing is guys will not have gas some games and play poorly.  Bo had one of those games.  Demko was awful last night too.  But the team has other guys who picked it up, so we won.  

I hear you Alf, however wearing the "C" IMHO means there are certain elements to Bo's game that he responsible for regardless of whether he feel tired. An off night in face offs? Sure, but that was a brutal night. Lazy change, that could be tired. But still his teammates probably saw this.

 

However I can count numerous times this season alone where a canuck was pasted to the boards or roughed up and Bo turns his back and skates away. Leaving guys like OEL to jump in. I'm really getting tired of seeing the lack of emotional leadership from Bo. And yes, this is one of the first times I agree with you in regards to Demko. Rough night for sure.

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Where's our captain been? 

8 minutes ago, JayDangles said:

I hear you Alf, however wearing the "C" IMHO means there are certain elements to Bo's game that he responsible for regardless of whether he feel tired. An off night in face offs? Sure, but that was a brutal night. Lazy change, that could be tired. But still his teammates probably saw this.

 

However I can count numerous times this season alone where a canuck was pasted to the boards or roughed up and Bo turns his back and skates away. Leaving guys like OEL to jump in. I'm really getting tired of seeing the lack of emotional leadership from Bo. And yes, this is one of the first times I agree with you in regards to Demko. Rough night for sure.

He is awful. Don't know whzly we would trade our best player in JT and keep Horvat. He was astrociuous last night. 0 hits from you're captain should be unacceptable. 

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I think the JR and BB edition of the Canucks still have a couple glaring issues........

 

#1. Special teams.......In the playoff you have to shut the door on the PK and make every opportunity on the PP. I think we are a long way from that. IMO, it comes down to our Defensive Dmen on the PK...we really do not have that guy who can get the puck out with an consistency. then on the PP, we really don't have that play maker in the forward side of the puck. (That may be part of BB's complaint of not having any speed)

 

#2. Which is part of #1, I think we really are missing that stud RHD. Our best RHD is Myers, and he either plays a great game or craps the bed. Myers would be fine if lower down the line up. 

 

I would also say that our young forwards, Hoglander and Podkolzin are not contributing enough yet. Another couple of years, and I think you see these two contribute more, lots of flash and dash, but not much end result. Not consistent enough.

 

I would also say Dowling, Dickenson, and Chaisson, just don't cut it. IMO, they were very bad signings. ( I think when JR talks about no depth, he is referring to these 3)

 

Finally, our Cap, really handcuffs us, and it really comes down to we "could " trade that 1st, but we do not have room to add anything of significance to the roster, aka a  decent RHD. 

 

I think these are the problems JR  is facing, and it is going to take 1 or 2 years to, make enough change to make a significant difference for the better. He needs time to clear those bottom contracts, and to move things around to get that RHD.

 

I think there is more to it than that, and ultimately, it may be the reason JR does a mini blow up.

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1 hour ago, Goal:thecup said:

As previously posted, the Vaunted Vancouver Canucks are now 3 points out of a wildcard spot:

 

Wild Card GP W L OT PTS P% RW ROW GF GA DIFF HOME AWAY S/O L10 STRK
1  Nashville 49 28 17 4 60 .612 22 27 150 138 +12 14-9-0 14-8-4 1-2 4-5-1 L3
2  Los Angeles 48 24 17 7 55 .573 20 22 138 135 +3 13-11-2 11-6-5 2-2 4-4-2 L1
3  Anaheim 51 23 19 9 55 .539 16 20 149 154 -5 13-8-4 10-11-5 3-4 4-4-2 L3
4  Dallas 47 26 19 2 54 .574 18 24 141 142 -1 17-7-1 9-12-1 2-1 7-3-0 W1
5  Winnipeg 48 22 18 8 52 .542 19 21 142 143 -1 13-9-1 9-9-7 1-4 5-4-1 W2
6  Vancouver 50 23 21 6 52 .520 17 20 131 139 -8 10-9-3 13-12-3 3-3 5-3-2 W2
7  San Jose 48 22 21 5 49 .510 15 21 130 150 -20 11-10-3 11-11-2 1-1 2-4-4 OT1
8  Chicago 50 18 25 7 43 .430 11 15 124 170 -46 8-12-3 10-13-4 3-1 3-6-1 L1
9  Seattle 50 16 30 4 36 .360 14 15 132 178 -46 9-16-2 7-14-2 1-1 4-6-0 L2
10  Arizona 48 12 32 4 28 .292 8 11 108 180 -72 5-17-1 7-15-3 1-4 2-8-0 L1

LA and Dallas are our biggest threats in my opinion, especially Dallas. 

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2 hours ago, Harold Drunken said:

Hey, I'm with you man I love this team...I'm just realistic. It's great if some think this team is built to win in the playoffs, I'll eat crow if we do I'll take that on but I just don't see it from what I'm watching. I'm still cheering from them but they aren't playing well enough at the moment to make me believe anything different. I hope they can show some more consistency and figure the special teams side out, then I'll get excited. 

Realistically, this is a playoff team. 

Their record under BB is clearly that. Their record under TG needs to be thrown out because guy had no clue. 

Its much more accurate to look at the last 32 games under BB than the 28 under TG. The 32 games under BB is an accurate representation of the team. We wom some games we didn't deserve and lost. Aome we deserved to win. We had one really disappointing loss (NYI) Like how bad was this team under TG and co that even with BB's record here we are still on the outside looking in. 

We may not be Tampa calibre but we are a top 3 Pacific team. This is with Brock, Petey having off years. 

Demko is a major part of this team. Look at what Price did last year. 

With a franchise goalie, anything is possible. 

If I was a top seed, Vancouver would be the team I would be scared to play. 

We just might become fully healthy in time for the playoff push.  Poolman hopefully comes back soon.and Sutter as well. Demko is capable of standing on his head. We took Vegas to 7 with him.

Looking at the next 14 games heading into the TDL, i think we are capable of going 10-4. 

 

 

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