Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted July 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) To New Jersey: JT Miller Travis Dermott To Vancouver: Damon Severson Michael McLeod Kevin Bahl Why New Jersey does this? They have a glut of RHD now and cannot play all of them in their top 4. Hamilton and Marino are signed long term and will be their two top 4 RHD, plus they have Simon Nemec in the wings. Severson, like Miller, is a UFA next summer so he looks like the odd man out. Dermott gives them a good option for their 3rd pairing and can play either side. Why Vancouver does this? Severson will immediately step into the lineup on the top pairing with Quinn Hughes. He is a bonafide top 4 Dman, can play 25 minutes a night, can play the 2nd unit PP and is one of the better PK'ers in the league. He can also put up 45-50 points from the backend, which is another area of need for us. He is not the perfect partner for Hughes but he will immediately become our best RHD by a mile. McLeod is as fast as they come. He will be our new 3C. Him and Mikheyev will form an unstoppable PK pairing that will bring our PK to the top of the league. As well, he is one of the best faceoff men in the entire NHL, so he will allow Horvat to focus on scoring and being a 2C. McLeod hasn't developed his offensive game yet in the NHL and may never live up to his draft ranking. However, he will add much needed speed and will be our #1 faceoff man as well as be able to make our penalty kill one of the best in the league. Kevin Bahl is a beast and is a local boy. He and Rathbone can battle it out for the 3rd pairing LHD role. We can switch them up depending on the competition. Bahl hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential in the NHL. At 6'6" and 230+ pounds he can really help us to get much bigger and meaner on the back end. There you have it. This trade takes care of several needs. A top pairing RHD for Hughes, a 3C who is as fast as they come and is one of the best faceoff men in the NHL, and a 6'6" beast of a Dman who has untapped potential and is also a local boy who would love to come back home. Flame away... Edited July 17, 2022 by Elias Pettersson 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Not enough. The expectation is Miller would get more than what Fiala got which was a top RD prospect and a mid 1st round pick. Severson who’s atrocious defensively and a couple of question mark prospects isn’t that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: To New Jersey: JT Miller Travis Dermott To Vancouver: Damon Severson Michael Mcleod Kevin Bahl Why New Jersey does this? They have a glut of RHD now and cannot play all of them in their top 4. Hamilton and Marino are signed long term and will be their two top 4 RHD, plus they have Simon Nemec in the wings. Severson, like Miller, is a UFA next summer so he looks like the odd man out. Dermott gives them a good option for their 3rd pairing and can play either side. Why Vancouver does this? Severson will immediately step into the lineup on the top pairing with Quinn Hughes. He is a bonafide top 4 Dman, can play 25 minutes a night, can play the 2nd unit PP and is one of the better PK'ers in the league. He can also put up 45-50 points from the backend, which is another area of need for us. He is not the perfect partner for Hughes but he will immediately become our best RHD by a mile. Mcleod is as fast as they come. He will be our new 3C. Him and Mikheyev will form an unstoppable PK pairing that will bring our PK to the top of the league. As well, he is one of the best faceoff men in the entire NHL, so he will allow Horvat to focus on scoring and being a 2C. Mcleod hasn't developed his offensive game yet in the NHL and may never live up to his draft ranking. However, he will add much needed speed and will be our #1 faceoff man as well as be able to make our penalty kill one of the best in the league. Kevin Bahl is a beast and is a local boy. He and Rathbone can battle it out for the 3rd pairing LHD role. We can switch them up depending on the competition. Bahl hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential in the NHL. At 6'6" and 230+ pounds he can really help us to get much bigger and meaner on the back end. There you have it. This trade takes care of several needs. A top pairing RHD for Hughes, a 3C who is as fast as they come and is one of the best faceoff men in the NHL, and a 6'6" beast of a Dman who has untapped potential and is also a local boy who would love to come back home. Flame away... Wait a minute! Are you telling me there's a chance that the Canucks may trade away JT Miller? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Pears said: Not enough. The expectation is Miller would get more than what Fiala got which was a top RD prospect and a mid 1st round pick. Severson who’s atrocious defensively and a couple of question mark prospects isn’t that. Who's expectation is that? CDC? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I like this trade. Very fair value for both teams. If they can throw in a 2nd or 3rd rounder, that would be great but this is the type of trade I can see happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Not sure about McLeod. Has he accepted to be an NHL player he’s going to need to play the grinder, checker, pain in the ass, hard to play against role? If he has, then this a great trade. Get ‘er done JR! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 i was thinking more like garland for marino or severson and mukhamadullin. i don't know how far away muk is to playing in the nhl, but i'm a big fan of his game. i'ld love mcleod but i think we expect more than what we'll probably get. i think miller ends up on long island. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, smithers joe said: i was thinking more like garland for marino or severson and mukhamadullin. i don't know how far away muk is to playing in the nhl, but i'm a big fan of his game. i'ld love mcleod but i think we expect more than what we'll probably get. i think miller ends up on long island. I agree Joe. Miller is exactly the type of player Lou Lam loves. Hopefully we can get the Devils and the Islanders both interested enough to compete for Miller. Two buyers would be fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 40 minutes ago, Alflives said: Not sure about McLeod. Yeah I’d rather have this McCloud on the team: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) Dermot is an absolute stud sweetener, not quite unlike myself. I was hoping for Sharan in there some where but I could live with this. Edited July 17, 2022 by Hairy Kneel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, smithers joe said: i was thinking more like garland for marino or severson and mukhamadullin. i don't know how far away muk is to playing in the nhl, but i'm a big fan of his game. i'ld love mcleod but i think we expect more than what we'll probably get. i think miller ends up on long island. He's gonna end up on a long island in the middle of the Arctic Sea if he doesn't sign a team-friendly deal. #Sign zee papers old man. Starting to wonder if Burkie didn't have something with his cap space comment. Miller's cap space now is so low it's a big part of his value. Miller's cap space (and term!) on his next contract will detract from his value. Does it make sense to look forward to not paying his new contract, even if he walks? e.g. Miller plays this season at his 5.something cap hit; we get good use out of him for that 5 mil; and he can decide to re-up with us or anybody else; we only offer what we want to pay and for how long. vs Trade Miller, lose his modest cap hit, lose his possible future cap hit and term, don't get the use of him this year; but get some futures. I hope he wants to sign say a 'team-fair' deal, a little shorter than max, and a little less AAV, and stay and help us try to Win The Stanley Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odd. Posted July 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Not sure about McLeod. Has he accepted to be an NHL player he’s going to need to play the grinder, checker, pain in the ass, hard to play against role? If he has, then this a great trade. Get ‘er done JR! He reminds me a lot of a young Sean Couturier. Plays an edgy game, and has quickly accepted his role as a checking centre, a far cry from his junior hockey days as a playmaker. Hes also a pretty decent fighter, and fights quite a bit lol Edited July 17, 2022 by Odd. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VegasCanuck Posted July 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: To New Jersey: JT Miller Travis Dermott To Vancouver: Damon Severson Michael Mcleod Kevin Bahl Why New Jersey does this? They have a glut of RHD now and cannot play all of them in their top 4. Hamilton and Marino are signed long term and will be their two top 4 RHD, plus they have Simon Nemec in the wings. Severson, like Miller, is a UFA next summer so he looks like the odd man out. Dermott gives them a good option for their 3rd pairing and can play either side. Why Vancouver does this? Severson will immediately step into the lineup on the top pairing with Quinn Hughes. He is a bonafide top 4 Dman, can play 25 minutes a night, can play the 2nd unit PP and is one of the better PK'ers in the league. He can also put up 45-50 points from the backend, which is another area of need for us. He is not the perfect partner for Hughes but he will immediately become our best RHD by a mile. Mcleod is as fast as they come. He will be our new 3C. Him and Mikheyev will form an unstoppable PK pairing that will bring our PK to the top of the league. As well, he is one of the best faceoff men in the entire NHL, so he will allow Horvat to focus on scoring and being a 2C. Mcleod hasn't developed his offensive game yet in the NHL and may never live up to his draft ranking. However, he will add much needed speed and will be our #1 faceoff man as well as be able to make our penalty kill one of the best in the league. Kevin Bahl is a beast and is a local boy. He and Rathbone can battle it out for the 3rd pairing LHD role. We can switch them up depending on the competition. Bahl hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential in the NHL. At 6'6" and 230+ pounds he can really help us to get much bigger and meaner on the back end. There you have it. This trade takes care of several needs. A top pairing RHD for Hughes, a 3C who is as fast as they come and is one of the best faceoff men in the NHL, and a 6'6" beast of a Dman who has untapped potential and is also a local boy who would love to come back home. Flame away... Need more, I want their lunch money, too..... 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Odd. said: He reminds me a lot of a young Sean Couturier. Plays an edgy game, and has quickly accepted his role as a checking centre, a far cry from his junior hockey days as a playmaker. Hes also a pretty decent fighter, and fights quite a bit lol If they're willing to part with him, I am certainly interested in this speedster who may also be capable in the very heavy going of the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Not sure about McLeod. Has he accepted to be an NHL player he’s going to need to play the grinder, checker, pain in the ass, hard to play against role? If he has, then this a great trade. Get ‘er done JR! Yes he has and is above average at faceoffs. But...he has been playing 4th line for Jersey. At 24yrs, he may improve his offensive game. I'm not sure about his foot speed or toi for the jump to 3rdC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: To New Jersey: JT Miller Travis Dermott To Vancouver: Damon Severson Michael Mcleod Kevin Bahl Why New Jersey does this? They have a glut of RHD now and cannot play all of them in their top 4. Hamilton and Marino are signed long term and will be their two top 4 RHD, plus they have Simon Nemec in the wings. Severson, like Miller, is a UFA next summer so he looks like the odd man out. Dermott gives them a good option for their 3rd pairing and can play either side. Why Vancouver does this? Severson will immediately step into the lineup on the top pairing with Quinn Hughes. He is a bonafide top 4 Dman, can play 25 minutes a night, can play the 2nd unit PP and is one of the better PK'ers in the league. He can also put up 45-50 points from the backend, which is another area of need for us. He is not the perfect partner for Hughes but he will immediately become our best RHD by a mile. Mcleod is as fast as they come. He will be our new 3C. Him and Mikheyev will form an unstoppable PK pairing that will bring our PK to the top of the league. As well, he is one of the best faceoff men in the entire NHL, so he will allow Horvat to focus on scoring and being a 2C. Mcleod hasn't developed his offensive game yet in the NHL and may never live up to his draft ranking. However, he will add much needed speed and will be our #1 faceoff man as well as be able to make our penalty kill one of the best in the league. Kevin Bahl is a beast and is a local boy. He and Rathbone can battle it out for the 3rd pairing LHD role. We can switch them up depending on the competition. Bahl hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential in the NHL. At 6'6" and 230+ pounds he can really help us to get much bigger and meaner on the back end. There you have it. This trade takes care of several needs. A top pairing RHD for Hughes, a 3C who is as fast as they come and is one of the best faceoff men in the NHL, and a 6'6" beast of a Dman who has untapped potential and is also a local boy who would love to come back home. Flame away... Looks good to me EP. Nice one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted July 17, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Yes he has and is above average at faceoffs. But...he has been playing 4th line for Jersey. At 24yrs, he may improve his offensive game. I'm not sure about his foot speed or toi for the jump to 3rdC Michael McLeod was touted as the fastest skater out of his entire draft class. If you watch some youtube videos of him you can see his acceleration, he literally flies by his opponents when chasing the puck. I would say he's on par or just below Mikheyev in terms of speed... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 31 minutes ago, Odd. said: He reminds me a lot of a young Sean Couturier. Plays an edgy game, and has quickly accepted his role as a checking centre, a far cry from his junior hockey days as a playmaker. Hes also a pretty decent fighter, and fights quite a bit lol 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 9:20 PM, spook007 said: If Devils need LHD... Wouldn't Rathbone + another LHD not named OEL or Hughes + Miller for Marino/Seversen and Bahl/Bratt + a 3C make a lot of sense? 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: To New Jersey: JT Miller Travis Dermott To Vancouver: Damon Severson Michael McLeod Kevin Bahl Why New Jersey does this? They have a glut of RHD now and cannot play all of them in their top 4. Hamilton and Marino are signed long term and will be their two top 4 RHD, plus they have Simon Nemec in the wings. Severson, like Miller, is a UFA next summer so he looks like the odd man out. Dermott gives them a good option for their 3rd pairing and can play either side. Why Vancouver does this? Severson will immediately step into the lineup on the top pairing with Quinn Hughes. He is a bonafide top 4 Dman, can play 25 minutes a night, can play the 2nd unit PP and is one of the better PK'ers in the league. He can also put up 45-50 points from the backend, which is another area of need for us. He is not the perfect partner for Hughes but he will immediately become our best RHD by a mile. McLeod is as fast as they come. He will be our new 3C. Him and Mikheyev will form an unstoppable PK pairing that will bring our PK to the top of the league. As well, he is one of the best faceoff men in the entire NHL, so he will allow Horvat to focus on scoring and being a 2C. McLeod hasn't developed his offensive game yet in the NHL and may never live up to his draft ranking. However, he will add much needed speed and will be our #1 faceoff man as well as be able to make our penalty kill one of the best in the league. Kevin Bahl is a beast and is a local boy. He and Rathbone can battle it out for the 3rd pairing LHD role. We can switch them up depending on the competition. Bahl hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential in the NHL. At 6'6" and 230+ pounds he can really help us to get much bigger and meaner on the back end. There you have it. This trade takes care of several needs. A top pairing RHD for Hughes, a 3C who is as fast as they come and is one of the best faceoff men in the NHL, and a 6'6" beast of a Dman who has untapped potential and is also a local boy who would love to come back home. Flame away... I love it.... couldn't get much closer to my idea, although I'm slightly less stingy I makes lots of sense... could perhaps make further adjustments later, but absolutely no rush to do so right away. Would feel a lot more confident going into next season like that....and I'm on the fence with Miller, but it just makes too much sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 53 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Oh yes please mama. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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