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[GDT/PGT] Preseason October 3, 2022 Vancouver Canucks @ Edmonton Oilers 6:00pm PT at Rogers Place SN1 SN650AM

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Just now, King Heffy said:

No, he's still absolutely atrocious. Barrie would struggle to make Abbotsford's lineup unless he decided to at least try to play acceptable defence.  He's absolute trash and I'm very grateful that pylon is in our division, handicapping a rival.

Not even remotely true, the overrating is why people don’t take your defensive assessments seriously at all. Barrie is an NHL player, period.

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Just now, Sharpshooter said:

Offensive dman, with great wheels. Plus 40 point player in the last 4 out of the last 5 years. Missed it by one point in one year. 

 

Not so much an AHL player at all. 
 

 

Simply can't play a lick of defence.  He needs to either move to forward or learn how to play his position.  Playing like he does in his own zone is simply not acceptable regardless of offensive output; you can't win when a guy doesn't care if he's playing like trash in his own zone.

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Just now, canuck73_3 said:

Not even remotely true, the overrating is why people don’t take your defensive assessments seriously at all. Barrie is an NHL player, period.

So you consider refusing to play like an NHLer in one's own zone to be acceptable for a defenceman?  He simply doesn't belong on an actual NHL team, which is why he is still in Edmonton.

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1 minute ago, King Heffy said:

Simply can't play a lick of defence.  He needs to either move to forward or learn how to play his position.  Playing like he does in his own zone is simply not acceptable regardless of offensive output; you can't win when a guy doesn't care if he's playing like trash in his own zone.

Except, he’s not as bad in his own end as you make him out to be which is the crux of your position. ;)

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Just now, King Heffy said:

Simply can't play a lick of defence.  He needs to either move to forward or learn how to play his position.  Playing like he does in his own zone is simply not acceptable regardless of offensive output; you can't win when a guy doesn't care if he's playing like trash in his own zone.

Doesn’t really have to. He needs to be a passable Dman. Needs to be paired with a solid defensive partner who shoulders the defensive responsibility.
 

Then he produces offensively.

 

Much like what Hughes did. 

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