Master Mind Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I'd rather we don't turn it around. Last year we did and all it resulted in was a lower draft pick. I'm perfectly fine with having a terrible season if it means a top pick. That's what's best for the franchise long term. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Master Mind said: I'd rather we don't turn it around. Last year we did and all it resulted in was a lower draft pick. I'm perfectly fine with having a terrible season if it means a top pick. That's what's best for the franchise long term. And being at the bottom will (hopefully) result in a long overdue rebuild. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J-23 Posted October 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2022 No. But I am looking forward to this team barely missing the Playoffs and screwing over their draft position. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarnersHair Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 They have the tools. December-January I say they find there real stride. This team are sleepers to start. This year as terrible as it is at beginning, may not end that way. 25-40 game mark & they still haven’t picked it up. I think management will make a move. It’ll be a big one, I think no stars are safe by deadline IF they continue to shit the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aladeen Posted October 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2022 Please don’t turn it around, finishing last this season is exactly what this team needs. Aladeen’s fool proof plan: Step1: Finish 32nd this season Step2: draft Bedard Step3: ???? Step4: Win Stanley Cup 2024 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Master Mind said: I'd rather we don't turn it around. Last year we did and all it resulted in was a lower draft pick. I'm perfectly fine with having a terrible season if it means a top pick. That's what's best for the franchise long term. 15 minutes ago, Alflives said: And being at the bottom will (hopefully) result in a long overdue rebuild. I've been longing for a proper rebuild since Torts said we had a stale core nearly a decade ago. It was even more evident then when we were falling off a cliff and had aging veterans with no prominent prospects in the pipeline at all except for Bo. Now, we have a team with a fairly young core. A core that has been very disappointing. Do you think Aquilini would really want to rebuild now? He was reluctant when it was blatantly obvious we needed one. Always in denial and thinking we could retool on the fly for that precious playoff revenue. I hate to say it but I think he would be even more reluctant for an actual rebuild now, using our young core as an excuse. It's absolutely frustrating to have such a stubborn owner who never thinks about the future of the team, and if he does think about it, then it's already too late by the time he actually realizes. His actions this past decade have shown exactly that. Edited October 26, 2022 by PetterssonOrPeterson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said: I've been longing for a proper rebuild since Torts said we had a stale core nearly a decade ago. It was even more evident then when we were falling off a cliff and had aging veterans with no prominent prospects in the pipeline at all except for Bo. Now, we have a team with a fairly young core. A core that has been very disappointing. Do you think Aquilini would really want to rebuild now? He was reluctant when it was blatantly obvious we needed one. Always in denial and thinking we could retool on the fly for that precious playoff revenue. I hate to say it but I think he would be even more reluctant for an actual rebuild now, using our young core as an excuse. It's absolutely frustrating to have such a stubborn owner who never thinks about the future of the team, and if he does think about it, then it's already too late that he realizes. Agreed, I don't think ownership will approve a proper rebuild unfortunately. If we're stuck in this fruitless attempt at competing every year, the best outcome IMO is to bottom out this year and get a very good prospect. It sure beats getting another mid 1st round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetterssonOrPeterson Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Master Mind said: Agreed, I don't think ownership will approve a proper rebuild unfortunately. If we're stuck in this fruitless attempt at competing every year, the best outcome IMO is to bottom out this year and get a very good prospect. It sure beats getting another mid 1st round pick. I guess it helps if you just suck as a team. There's not really much you can do about it, the team just sucks, you're too behind and can't catch up to the other teams, and you end up getting a high pick.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, OldFaithfulCap said: I've been at this for a while, manual process but I wanted to see how much of a bad start we are having historically. Used hockeydb as source (Vancouver Canucks hockey team [NHL] statistics and history at hockeydb.com) Things that stand out from analyzing the records (shown below) This is going to be one of the top 5 worst starts (though of the top 10 worst starts, 50% still made the playoffs) The canucks don't start well often but it's their record over 20 games which seems to be the decisive factor in playoffs (unless we're so far below .500 before then that we can't break even) Even with their best starts they missed the playoffs 3 times, including their best record. There's no correlation between starts and the seasons that we made the Stanley Cup Finals. So there's both doom and hope. The missing context that is needed with this is that league expansion has made achieving the playoffs significantly harder. These numbers would have to be corrected for that if you want to compare them to this year and our chances. It draws an incorrect conclusion otherwise. When there were 22 teams in 81/82 and 16 made it to the playoffs you could have a badly losing record and still make it in. Almost every team made it. In 81-82 we finished three games under .500 94-95 we finished the shortened season right at .500 88-89 we finished 6 games under .500 None of those records would be close to getting us a wildcard spot now. Only one time on that list did we reach a level that would make the playoff nowadays It actually shows how bleak the situation is. . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeback_Kings Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Let's go Vancouver ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeback_Kings Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 seems like no-one wants a complete rebuild, proposals often want to keep at least one of the current roster players. Competing teams will want players that can help them win right now. I think the Canucks have players like that. Players that want to win the next game. <start here> Win the next game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Aladeen said: Please don’t turn it around, finishing last this season is exactly what this team needs. Aladeen’s fool proof plan: Step1: Finish 32nd this season Step2: draft Bedard Step3: ???? Step4: Win Stanley Cup 2024 Step 5: Profit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I am with some, lets tank one more season, draft bedard and than have some fun, bedard is a franchise player, we need one of those badly ( mcdavid , crosby type ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Aladeen said: Please don’t turn it around, finishing last this season is exactly what this team needs. Aladeen’s fool proof plan: Step1: Finish 32nd this season Step2: draft Bedard Step3: ???? Step4: Win Stanley Cup 2024 10000% lets go nucks, keep playing as bad as you are now for the whole season, bedard will be as good as ours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) It's possible... 1. We need Demko to play like he did last season. 2. Hughes needs to get healthy ASAP. 3. We need at least 2 of Dermott, Stillman, and Poolman to return so that we don't have to ice more than 1 AHL caliber defender. 4. The whole group needs to learn to play a grittier game or we should make trades to acquire gritty veteran players who know how to defend and grind out a win. Edited October 26, 2022 by jyu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Canucks now completely alone in 32nd spot in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 i don't know why but i've faith in this team. as soon as they start clicking, i can see them skyrocketed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I still like our forwards... defense is another story... and Demko isn't playing his best. I want us to win again, but it might be best to tank and get Bedard or a RHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyZen16 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Get a top 5 pick hope for Bedard. Time to dissect the team and have a proper rebuild. Don't care if FA pockets hurt. He should sell the team as he doesn't know what the fans want or how to run an NHL team. Each year it's mediocrity and an AHL lineup. Tired of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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