Bruce Boudreau on the hot seat?

[JM_]

10 minutes ago, Odd. said:

 

why does anyone follow this guy? 

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

Bruce will eventually tell JR

I was here to please
I'm even on knees
I gotta do it my way
Or no way at all

And then you came around
Tried to tie me down
I was such a clown
You had to have it your way JR 
Or no way at all

Well I've had all I can take
I can't take it no more
I'm gonna pack my bags and fly, JR 
Or no way at all

So why don't you turn me lose
Turn me loose
Turn me loose
I gotta do it my way
Or no way at all

[ilduce39]

Just now, JM_ said:

why does anyone follow this guy? 

I’m pretty sure taj is just a media burner who tweets ridiculous stuff to drum up engagement. 

[lmm]

29 minutes ago, Baratheon said:

He also said that the players need to be held accountable and that they might have to do something to get their attention.  It certainly wasn't a glowing review of Bruce but I got the sense that it's the players who will feel the brunt of this (for now anyway).

I thought I heard on Hockey night in canada that Jimmy R just did his best Burkie impersonation and went into the locker room and told the whole team that he wasn't going to fire the coach, that it was on the players to figure out.

that was last Saturday

today is Monday

what could possibly have happened in 2 days?

[Mustard Tiger]

Amazing interview. Says it exactly how it is, Doesn't BS around the question. I think he's pissed about Miller signing then his trash attitude to start this year. Off to Boston for carlo he goes 

[DrJockitch]

I call media stunt on this one. 
‘Team keeps blowing leads, did the team only meeting. Publicly threatened to start trading player, now non-enforcement of coach.
Just playing PR game before big, potentially season crushing road trip. 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[Baratheon]

2 minutes ago, lmm said:

I thought I heard on Hockey night in canada that Jimmy R just did his best Burkie impersonation and went into the locker room and told the whole team that he wasn't going to fire the coach, that it was on the players to figure out.

that was last Saturday

today is Monday

what could possibly have happened in 2 days?

Nothing I guess?  I still get that same vibe.  I just don’t think they’re intending on re-signing Bruce.  I doubt they’ll fire him unless it’s to get “their guy” in there sooner than next year.

[lmm]

27 minutes ago, Master Mind said:

How many coaches must we go through before realizing it's the players on the ice that aren't good enough?

10

[DrJockitch]

Independent of coaching this group has shown it is a bad mix. 
It was a bad mix with Green and so far this season it is a bad mix with Bruce. 
If it is bad independent of coaching than it is the rest of managements fault and what they need is exactly what he is saying consequences. But he isn’t wrong. Not much can be done until around deadline. 

[lmm]

26 minutes ago, Brad Marchand said:

The Canucks aren't a hockey team - they're a soap opera. The sooner people start viewing this team through the right lens, the more we can sit back and enjoy and all the drama they create for themselves.

I already do

you need to embrace the losing to really enjoy this team

 

[Odd.]

He really said this  

[lmm]

21 minutes ago, RWJC said:

Yeah, so much dysfunction.

it’s truly disappointing.   entertainmening

 

[DrJockitch]

Just now, lmm said:

I already do

you need to embrace the losing to really enjoy this team

 

I think internet, message boards, social media and multiple sports networks covering more and more of the internals, the hockey game is only a part of the entertainment. A big part of it is the palace intrigue and the weird white man soap opera where characters keep getting killed off them come back from the dead with a moustache. 
I truly am not sure that Allvin isn’t JB with a shaved head and fake accent. Everything he has done seems like Benning.

[MrCanuck94]

What an interview. Summary to follow:

 

- Likes the people in the organization. Believes they're in a strong position to make big decisions moving forward.

- Happy with new facility in Rogers Arena and Abbotsford upgrades. Working on practice facility. Ownership is willing to invest in upgrade necessary areas.

- Feels the same way about the team as the texters that text into the show do  (hint, not happy)

- Was expecting better. Didn't like training camp and the early part of the season.

- Lot of things need to happen, team needs to play with stronger systems and accountability.

- The amount of times we have given up leads is a major concern. Something needs to be fixed. Can't be losing 3-0 leads at home with the goalie and players we have.

- Stresses structure and accountability to the coaches.

- The loose style the team played last year was supported by a strong goalie, doesn't believe that style of play is sustainable if the team is trying to contend for a playoff spot.

- We're at a point, moreso the end of this roadtrip, to make players more accountable. They have to take necessary steps to get players' attention.

- Tried to make changes in the offseason, priority being RD. Need to make it younger. Took a step with Ethan Bear.

- Bear deal took months, didn't have enough cap space. Finally got creative enough to do it.

- If team was playing in a strong structure, would make defence easier to play.

- Need to change make up of defence.

- They were in on almost every defenceman in the offseason, but we didn't have the cap or another team had a better offer.

- Coaches decision on who's in the lineup.

- Word they use internally is build, not rebuild. Continue to build, move out players that don't fit, move in younger players. 26 and younger.

- With the start we had, will be tough to claw out of the hole and contend for a playoff spot this season.

- There will be a point where next season will be the priority.

- Might have to consider trading players they weren't planning to trade to get younger assets. Can't trade players that other teams don't want.

- Goal for next season is to acquire younger players, draft picks and cap space. Hard to move players that have no value or negative value.

- Had to move Dickinson to work with a 23 man roster.

- Are willing to make moves in-season. Don't have to wait until the off-season.

- Players like Mikheyev were signed to be an important piece when we are contenders, not just brought in for this season.

- Hasn't been movement on the Bo end. Priority to keep Bo. Proud of Bo not losing focus. Hope that keeps going.

- If we can't sign Bo, the better he plays, the better return we get for him.

 

Thoughts?

[-AJ-]

15 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:

Sure seemed like Rutherford didn’t like Bruce from the get go.  Which begs the question why they didn’t move on this summer.  I get Bruce had a good run, but it’s the f-ing NHL.  If you don’t see the coach as a fit make a move. This management group says one thing and does another and it’s infuriating. 

I got this vibe as well. Not sure if it's an old Pittsburgh vs Washington thing, but for some reason, there seemed to be a bit of a rift in some way.

[MrCanuck94]

My thoughts:

 

It's pretty obvious the organization does not view Boudreau as the solution.

 

Next season seems like the bigger priority, this season and next off-season will be used to shape the team.

 

They tried to make moves, were in on almost every defenseman in the offseason, we didn't have the cap or assets to make those moves.

[lmm]

3 minutes ago, DrJockitch said:

I think internet, message boards, social media and multiple sports networks covering more and more of the internals, the hockey game is only a part of the entertainment. A big part of it is the palace intrigue and the weird white man soap opera where characters keep getting killed off them come back from the dead with a moustache. 
I truly am not sure that Allvin isn’t JB with a shaved head and fake accent. Everything he has done seems like Benning.

and I always wonder about about movie stars that play characters with their own first name,

kinda like replacing ol Jimmer with new Jimmer

I think you are onto something

[Fred65]

How come we've employed two rookie consqutives Manager

[lmm]

8 minutes ago, DrJockitch said:

I think internet, message boards, social media and multiple sports networks covering more and more of the internals, the hockey game is only a part of the entertainment. A big part of it is the palace intrigue and the weird white man soap opera where characters keep getting killed off them come back from the dead with a moustache. 
I truly am not sure that Allvin isn’t JB with a shaved head and fake accent. Everything he has done seems like Benning.

it amazes me that fans fall so quickly into lockstep with the management group

defending Bear and Stillman like they are the allstars we were yearning for

 

what happened to the chanting and jersey tosses

that stuff should happen every game until this sideshow is fixed

Edited November 8, 2022 by lmm