garthsbutcher Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Its his wife not a trade 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Provost said: Top 10 picks should always end up as NHLers, and often top of the lineup players. Not batting 50%. Petterson was the grand slam, literally every pundit had Hughes to be taken in that spot if he fell that far so it was a no brainer. That was a no brainer. At least with Petterson, the prevailing sentiment was that there were a couple other guys that should have been taken earlier... and Benning beat the consensus on that. Can't remember, but who did Detroit pick again? Give credit where credit is due man. The guy could have went with another player like the wings did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: People need to be shown a list of other 5th and 7th overall picks to understand how likely it is to get a star there. It's not 100% or even 70% of the time. Yeah no doubt. It's pile on time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, garthsbutcher said: Its his wife not a trade 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, garthsbutcher said: Its his wife not a trade Rick Dhaliwal, aka Vintage Canuck disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, GB5 said: Ancient history. Yep....I'd say the 3 year Beoser extension versus making meaningful change on the blueline dwarfs the Virtanen resigning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: Hiring Benning for his scouting was fine in isolation, but letting him be the main hockey ops guy was a mistake and that's squarely on ownership. Geoff Moulson admitted that having a GM without a president was a huge mistake in Montreal. Aquaman never owned up. GM without a president was the issue. I think JB had a hardtime dealing with ownership, which affected his team construction and player evaluation. A good president, much like a good boss, supports you and shelters you from pressure from the next level. Without the layer, the workload is too high and pressures to immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, BC_Hawk said: GM without a president was the issue. I think JB had a hardtime dealing with ownership, which affected his team construction and player evaluation. A good president, much like a good boss, supports you and shelters you from pressure from the next level. Without the layer, the workload is too high and pressures to immense. I think injuries played the biggest part in the lack of success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougieL Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: Yep....I'd say the 3 year Beoser extension versus making meaningful change on the blueline dwarfs the Virtanen resigning. The OEL trade is asking you to hold its beer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: People need to be shown a list of other 5th and 7th overall picks to understand how likely it is to get a star there. It's not 100% or even 70% of the time. People need to read the posts they are commenting on… I didn’t say all top ten picks end up as stars. I said you should get an NHL player and often at the top end of the lineup from those picks. If you are running at 50% on picks in that range, no one gets to call you a good scouting/draft guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EB43 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, dougieL said: The OEL trade is asking you to hold its beer Which is a 11% triple IPA tallboy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: Rick Dhaliwal, aka Vintage Canuck disagree. Ya, I think he unmasked himself in this thread! No wonder he is always on his phone during the Donnie and Dhali show… he is getting thread ready to pull the trigger on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbean30 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Provost said: People need to read the posts they are commenting on… I didn’t say all top ten picks end up as stars. I said you should get an NHL player and often at the top end of the lineup from those picks. If you are running at 50% on picks in that range, no one gets to call you a good scouting/draft guy. Yeah, if you aren't getting a bona fide NHLer in the top 10-15 of the draft, you aren't drafting well. Bona Fide NHLer does not mean star, just an NHLer who is playing every night. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, greenbean30 said: Yeah, if you aren't getting a bona fide NHLer in the top 10-15 of the draft, you aren't drafting well. Bona Fide NHLer does not mean star, just an NHLer who is playing every night. To carify. By playing every night you mean hockey. Not playing Fortnight or playing in the clubs every night. Ahem, OJ, Jake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaGuy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: With all the grief he's been getting (labelled a "Twitter troll", multiple members here calling him "negative" and equating him to trash worse than trash, constant complaints about his style and content), it would be supremely hilarious (in my mind at least) if @-Vintage Canuck- were actually Thomas Drance. Vintage Canuck and Canucks media on FB, Twitter etc all post at like exact same time. Pretty sure VC is an employee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, JoshuaGuy said: Vintage Canuck and Canucks media on FB, Twitter etc all post at like exact same time. Pretty sure VC is an employee I thought I knew who, but that person no longer works for the Canucks. The Canucks social media team changed during the pandemic (due to layoffs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaGuy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, gizmo2337 said: I thought I knew who, but that person no longer works for the Canucks. The Canucks social media team changed during the pandemic (due to layoffs). I assume the account would just be passed along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, dougieL said: The OEL trade is asking you to hold its beer This wasn't a defend JB post...its was that the Virtanen signing was an unforgivable offense. Very similar situations; a player playing below their draft position being rewarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I see our players are watching the game as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, JoshuaGuy said: I assume the account would just be passed along. The social media accounts, yes. But that sort of tosses a monkey wrench into VC real identity. Not that it matters, I still have upmost respect for the dedication and excellence over the years. It's probably better if we don't find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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