(Speculation) Conor Garland buyout this Summer?

[Makaramel MacKhiato]

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The Canucks have their loads of contract not aging well. While the cap is only expected to go up by a million the Canucks have now found themselves tied up in a situation where to much money is attribued to players that aren't performing.

The first name that comes to mind when talking not playing up to their worth, Tyler Myers, who only has a year remaining on his contract with a $6M AAV. Though it appears he won't be the first one, since $5M of his yearly $6M salary will be paid in bonus. Leaving only $1M to be paid over the year with a $6M, which will be extremely interesting for team that need help reaching the cap floor (ie: Arizona). So there might be a trade market for Myers after July 1st.

The second contract taking too much money for not enough performance is OEL's. Arizona still retains $990K of his salary, leaving his cap hit at $7.26M. Thing is, there's still 4 and a half years remaining to this contract. Making a OEL buy out extremely expensive. It would represent over $20M in cap hit spent over the next 8 years, which the Nucks definitely can't afford.

Dhaliwal revealed who the Canucks aimed for their first buyout and it seems that Conor Garland is their prime candidate at this point. The small forward he has 3 and a half year at a $4.95M AAV. At the moment, he‘s currently on pace for 39 points. His career-worst points per game ratio.
Buying out the remainder of his contract would impact the Canucks caps for the next 6 years at a $1.88M AAV. Which would therefore give the Canucks a little over $3M in cap space. Since his arrival Garland has been one of the best 5-on-5 player in the team, but it seems that if they fail to find a trade partner for the 26-year-old American, he will be making a tough decision.

 

https://www.canucksdaily.com/Canucks-are-preparing-for-buyouts-and-a-first-name-is-listed-196355

If Garland is bought out, does this go down as one of the worst trades in Canuck histroy, especially with Gunther looking like a stud and we could've cleared enough money to bring back Bo?  

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, Makaramel MacKhiato said:

If Garland is bought out, does this go down as one of the worst trades in Canuck histroy, especially with Gunther looking like a stud and we could've cleared enough money to bring back Bo?  

It’s already the worst trade.  I hope our owner understands (and accepts) what his insisted upon direction  does to management.  Especially a guy like Benning, who would do what’s told. 

Edited January 8, 2023 by Alflives

[aGENT]

Have to think he's just as tradeable as Bjorkstrand. Like Bjorkstrand we may  not get much back in the current cap environment (Bjorkstrand got CBJ a 3rd and 4th). And you'd have to think with $1-2m retained, and/or taking lesser cap back, he'd be even more attractive to other teams and either of those scenarios is better and more likely than a buyout.

 

 

[DeNiro]

Myers is a buyout candidate.

 

I don’t see Garland as one. He’s young enough and has a good enough track record that he still has value.

 

5 million dollars will seem like a bargain as salaries continue to rise.

[Sharpshooter]

16 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Have to think he's just as tradeable as Bjorkstrand. Like Bjorkstrand we may  not get much back in the current cap environment (Bjorkstrand got CBJ a 3rd and 4th). And you'd have to think with $1-2m retained, and/or taking lesser cap back, he'd be even more attractive to other teams and either of those scenarios is better and more likely than a buyout.

 

 

I’d love for the Nucks to get Bjorkstrand, but I doubt it would happen where SEA trades with VAN. 

[86Viking]

1 minute ago, DeNiro said:

Myers is a buyout candidate.

 

I don’t see Garland as one. He’s young enough and has a good enough track record that he still has value.

 

5 million dollars will seem like a bargain as salaries continue to rise.

Myers would barely save us anything buyout wise due to how Benning gave him a 5m signing bonus for his last year of contract.

 

Also, buying Garland out is just stupid, trade him. Bury Stillman in the AHL, trade Pearson to Calgary to rejoin Toffoli and coach Sutter. Trade 1 if not both of JT and Bo, offer Kuz a deal in February if he declines ship him off at the deadline too. Same goes for Schenn I like him but you take the pick or prospect and trade him to a playoff team. Oilers want a LHD any way we can get them to take OEL? I would even retain similar to what Arizona did just to clear another 6m. Coilers need better D with the goaltending they continue to have but what salary can we take back if Coilers would even take OEL...probably a pipe dream to try and move OEL. But hey if we bring Tocchet in as coach maybe he might want to leave considering they didn't get along well when both were in Arizona. That was the start of OEL's downfall sort of no? Guy use to be a goal scoring D who could run a PP. Still think OEL & Hughes should be on PP1 and tell OEL to shoot the puck from the point.

[JeremyCuddles]

This is what happens when you let someone make a massive half a decade effecting trade, then fire him immediately after. This is definitely a hornets nest of players brought in from different GMs. This lack of identity is nothing new. If Benning was on the hot seat, he never should have been allowed to make that trade. This trade was made literally less than half a year before he was fired. I like the trade in isolation. But the other moves made around it have done nothing to help the team and in most cases hurt the team. As a defender of the trade, yes it's terrible now. Because our franchise is inept and has gotten even more inept over time.

[aGENT]

6 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Myers is a buyout candidate.

 

I don’t see Garland as one. He’s young enough and has a good enough track record that he still has value.

 

5 million dollars will seem like a bargain as salaries continue to rise.

Myers deal is basically buyout proof, so no.

 

1 minute ago, Sharpshooter said:

I’d love for the Nucks to get Bjorkstrand, but I doubt it would happen where SEA trades with VAN. 

[Alflives]

Just now, Neutral said:

Myers would barely save us anything buyout wise due to how Benning gave him a 5m signing bonus for his last year of contract.

 

Also, buying Garland out is just stupid, trade him. Bury Stillman in the AHL, trade Pearson to Calgary to rejoin Toffoli and coach Sutter. Trade 1 if not both of JT and Bo, offer Kuz a deal in February if he declines ship him off at the deadline too. Same goes for Schenn I like him but you take the pick or prospect and trade him to a playoff team. Oilers want a LHD any way we can get them to take OEL? I would even retain similar to what Arizona did just to clear another 6m. Coilers need better D with the goaltending they continue to have but what salary can we take back if Coilers would even take OEL...probably a pipe dream to try and move OEL. But hey if we bring Tocchet in as coach maybe he might want to leave considering they didn't get along well when both were in Arizona. That was the start of OEL's downfall sort of no? Guy use to be a goal scoring D who could run a PP. Still think OEL & Hughes should be on PP1 and tell OEL to shoot the puck from the point.

We’ve been trying to trade Garland but there are no takers.  Best to buy him out and clear as much of as cap as we can.  

[Sharpshooter]

1 minute ago, aGENT said:

Myers deal is basically buyout proof, so no.

 

True. 

[DeNiro]

1 minute ago, aGENT said:

Myers deal is basically buyout proof, so no.

 

How so?

 

If you buy him out before the start of next season there’s a 5.3 million dollar cap hit followed by a 333k hit.

 

If no team will take him that’s the route they need to take. This team will be better without Myers. He couldn’t figure out a defensive system if you drew it out for him in crayons.

[aGENT]

3 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

How so?

 

If you buy him out before the start of next season there’s a 5.3 million dollar cap hit followed by a 333k hit.

 

If no team will take him that’s the route they need to take. This team will be better without Myers. He couldn’t figure out a defensive system if you drew it out for him in crayons.

$700k of cap savings AND a $333k penalty the year after...Why? There's zero point in doing that buyout.

 

We'd get more cap relief simply waiving him. 

 

Just like I posted above re: a potential Garland buyout. We'd be far better off simply retaining and/or taking back (lesser) cap.

[DeNiro]

2 minutes ago, aGENT said:

$700k of cap savings AND a $333k penalty the year after...Why? There's zero point in doing that buyout.

 

We'd get more cap relief simply waiving him. 

 

Just like I posted above re: a potential Garland buyout. We'd be far better off simply retaining and/or taking back (lesser) cap.

No one wants Myers at any price…

 

You think other teams scouts are looking at him as a missing piece on D?

 

As bad as he’s been, you don’t waive a player like that. It’s disrespectful. 
 

Saving 1 million vs saving 700k makes no difference. Buy him out and be done with that contract. Let him move on and sign with another team.

[Warhippy]

No chance Garland gets bought out.

[Cameron88188]

If anyone is being bought out, it is Stillman. Garland can be traded, if need be.

[aGENT]

Just now, DeNiro said:

No one wants Myers at any price…

 

You think other teams scouts are looking at him as a missing piece on D?

 

As bad as he’s been, you don’t waive a player like that. It’s disrespectful. 
 

Saving 1 million vs saving 700k makes no difference. Buy him out and be done with that contract. Let him move on and sign with another team.

Dude, it's not happening. No GM is buying out a contract that clears almost no cap space. And yes, Myers on an expiring deal does actually have value. Any team with a solid, defensive left D would happily look add him if they can make the cap dollars work.

 

 

[DeNiro]

Just now, aGENT said:

Dude, it's not happening. No GM is buying out a contract that clears almost no cap space. And yes, Myers on an expiring deal does actually have value. Any team with a solid, defensive left D would happily look add him if they can make the cap dollars work.

 

 

He brings nothing to a D pair. He makes everyone he’s paired with worse because they have to cover for his ridiculous pinches.

 

Nobody is trading for him in any scenario.

 

So you either waive him and save a mil or just buy him out and be done with it.

[Nuxfanabroad]

Absolutely foolish notion. At least the lil' s***-disturber heads to the paint & is willing to get his nose dirty.

 

MUCH bigger fish to fry first!

[aGENT]

1 minute ago, DeNiro said:

He brings nothing to a D pair. He makes everyone he’s paired with worse because they have to cover for his ridiculous pinches.

 

Nobody is trading for him in any scenario.

 

So you either waive him and save a mil or just buy him out and be done with it.

 

He's a big, RH'd D with decent skating and complementary offense. That does/will have value.

 

He make everyone he's paired with "worse" because we have no capable defensive LHD to play with him. This roster has a major fit/chemistry/identity issues, not talent issues. You can't have 3 of your top 4 D all wanting to freewheel with the puck and nobody playing defense (including our forwards). You get the abysmal defense we see game in and game out in that scenario. 

 

Myers would look great paired with a McNabb or similar. That's not us.

[DeNiro]

Just now, aGENT said:

 

He's a big, RH'd D with decent skating and complementary offense. That does/will have value.

 

He make everyone he's paired with "worse" because we have no capable defensive LHD to play with him. This roster has a major fit/chemistry/identity issues, not talent issues. You can't have 3 of your top 4 D all wanting to freewheel with the puck and nobody playing defense (including our forwards). You get the abysmal defense we see game in and game out in that scenario. 

 

Myers would look great paired with a McNabb or similar. That's not us.

Myers was the same player on Winnipeg and Buffalo that they were happy to get rid of. He’s as much of a problem as the team.

 

He provides zero offense actually. He can’t hit the net to save his life. He picks up points here and there because we’re a high scoring team but he’s clueless offensively.

 

His skating may be decent but his brain doesn’t make up for it. He’s constantly making bad reads and is out of position because he doesn’t see the play develop fast enough.

 

He’s big I’ll give you that but he can’t even play the way that would make him effective without taking penalties.

 

You can try and boost him all you want and hope a team is dumb enough to bite. I guarantee no team is trading for him though. They’re watching the same player I am. One that will hurt you in games much more than they help.