tas Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Cameron88188 said: Garland can be traded, if need be. prove it. I guarantee you they've been trying for 6 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 These buyouts make no sense. Garland isn’t trash, he is just not a great fit. We aren’t winning this year, keep him for next season and he is eminently trade-able once the cap rises a little. Myers could be traded to a budget team after his bonus is paid or kept as a deadline trade. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pears said: Garland is still a very tradable player so a buyout makes minimal to no sense. I agree. Garland is at his lowest value right now, due to playing on the 3rd line and very little PP mins. Normally he's a top 6 player is feisty, works hard and has a solid offensive game. For whatever the reason, he is not being played to increase his value in a trade. If the coach won't pump his tires now, then do it early next season. Better late, than never seeing if Garland's value will go up (as it did last season 52pt in 72gm). The famous salesman's quote: "buy low; sell high"; doesn't appear to be a tactic in this case. The only main players that must be signed or traded by TDL are Bo , Kuzmencho, and Schenn. Any other players can wait until the offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Pump and dump him and Boeser after trading away Horvat + Miller. They should try to elevate them now! Management just isn't putting them in positions to succeed. Case in point, they totally changed up the PP setup in today's game such that Brock became the net front guy and Miller/ Petey switched sides, etc. I just don't think Boeser is cut out to be a net-front guy the way someone like Kuzmenko is. Instead I would hope that they could do something like Garland on one unit's left wall (so they're on their forehand and able to make plays), or Boeser can play the bumper on one PP so that he can get his one-timer off. Arrangements like below would also let the team become less predictable on offense IMO. Kuzmenko Garland - Horvat - Petey Hughes Dries Mikheyev - Boeser - Miller OEL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sell.the.team Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 This team needs to put guys like Garland in a position to succeed in order to make him tradeable if they decide they don't want him anymore. Instead, the MO the last 6 years has been to bench the players we don't want in order to 'promote a winning culture' and then be forced to buy them out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, The.Burrowers said: This team needs to put guys like Garland in a position to succeed in order to make him tradeable if they decide they don't want him anymore. Instead, the MO the last 6 years has been to bench the players we don't want in order to 'promote a winning culture' and then be forced to buy them out. Lol yep! Like why aren’t you playing Garland with Petey. Pump those stats and get him going. Make him look like the top 6 Benning thought he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron88188 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 39 minutes ago, Chickenspear said: We'd be better off sticking him in Abby. Stillman buyout: '23-'24 and '24-'25: $225k Stillman buried: '23-'24: $200k We have lots of other options, up to $1mil, to bury instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Lol yep! Like why aren’t you playing Garland with Petey. Pump those stats and get him going. Make him look like the top 6 Benning thought he was. BB hasn’t taking a liking to Garland from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Buying out Garland would be such a ridiculous waste of cap...will wait and see but this mgmt team does not inspire a tonne of faith. Hopefully they nail the TDL and get things moving in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 40 minutes ago, tas said: prove it. I guarantee you they've been trying for 6 months. Trades in season are pretty tough these days but I assume Garland would get some attention in the summer. NHL needs to do something to improve in season trade environment: Something like (and just spitballing here) teams can acquire UFA assets that put them up to $3M over the salary cap between Jan and TDL (and for the remainder of the season). That would allow contending teams to take on assets. The selling teams would likely get better returns and would likely be more open to taking in cap dumps as well. But who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, tas said: prove it. I guarantee you they've been trying for 6 months. Probably because most teams are up against the cap. Makes trading difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: There's only one pump spot beside EP40 and AK96, and it's already taken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Any member of the management group that is even considering something this stupid to be an option has no business working in hockey ops and needs to be fired immediately. Long-term dead cap is completely unacceptable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, tas said: in a cap climate where no team has been able to move any money at all, what's suddenly going to change to allow the canucks to move 4 high priced players? Teams have actually moved money. I gave Bjorkstrand as an example earlier. And numerous guys have moved with expiring money going the other way. And nowhere did I say that I wouldn't be expecting cap coming back in some/all of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
‹(•¿•)› Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 The guy to buyout is Poolman, save 2mil off the cap each of the next 2 years, followed by 2 years of 1mil penalty. That is, if we're going to buyout anyone, buying out Garland is just dumb. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, tas said: which team wants a 4'10" player that can't contribute at either end of the ice or on either special team? garland might be the most useless player on this team. edit: for $5 mil a year. That's what I see. He turns over the puck far more than Miller just in a different way. Respect how hard he tries for a small guy but he's useless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 hours ago, DeNiro said: Myers is a buyout candidate. 4 hours ago, DeNiro said: If you buy him out before the start of next season there’s a 5.3 million dollar cap hit followed by a 333k hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, coryberg said: Oh right I forgot a team is gonna give us a 2nd round pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontaylorforprez Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I don’t think Garland will be bought out. I think if anyone’s going to be bought out, it’s going to be OEL. Garland will be traded. IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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